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Post by Icegas on Nov 6, 2024 23:08:56 GMT
As I just said, she spoke the best that she ever has tonight. She could have ran Trump closer if she had any policy's, and or showed any personality on stage. Generally, I mean that. I watched about 5 minutes of her speech and agree Ice,she spoke well. I know, Truthfully she did. Very odd given the past 100 days of nothing previously. |
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Post by Icegas on Nov 6, 2024 23:15:25 GMT
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 7, 2024 8:56:51 GMT
Trump did 2-3.5% better than any of the opinion polls in 2016 and 2020. So if the 7 swing seats are 'on a knife edge' he could well win them all. Harris is up 1% in Wisconsin and Michigan. Even if she turns those into wins, not going to be enough. She would definitely need Pennsylvania, where Trump is 8-11 (despite the polls showing a tie). Bookies odds on the last day of voting Trump 4-6, Harris 11-8. Polls on Nov 5th Actual results Trump National H 1.2 T3.3 +4.5 Arizona T 1.7 T5.5 +3.8 Georgia T 1.2 T2.2 +1.0 Michigan H 1.8 T1.5 +3.3 North Carolina T 1.3 T3.3 +2.0 Nevada T 0.6 T3.8 +2.8 Pennsylvania Tie T1.9 +1.9 Wisconsin H 1.1 T1.2 +2.3 A thumping win in the popular vote. Interesting that Trump did even better in the non-swing states than Harris. Look at California. Harris prediction was +24.8. Result was +17.4. As I may have mentioned, several times before, the bookies odds give a far better indication of what will happen in future events than the pollsters. The BBC, as ever, were talking bollocks. "Democrats cautiously optimistic". "Swing States on a knife edge". "Too close to call". Watching the presenters squirm as they covered the Trump landslide was pure comedy gold. |
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 7, 2024 9:08:50 GMT
The Lefty bias media people, are once again,like with Brexit, left confused and bitter by the result. Hopelessly out of touch with working class people. Kamalas making her losers speech now. Another parallel with the Brexit vote. Democrats called Trump supporters stupid. Fascists and racist. So what this ACTUALLY does is make people who are sat on the fence, unsure of who to vote for, vote Trump. Belittling opposition supporters emboldens them. Sanctimoniously condescending opposition supporters emboldens them. Some people still don't get it. |
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Post by lostinspace on Nov 7, 2024 9:46:42 GMT
The Lefty bias media people, are once again,like with Brexit, left confused and bitter by the result. Hopelessly out of touch with working class people. Kamalas making her losers speech now. Another parallel with the Brexit vote. Democrats called Trump supporters stupid. Fascists and racist. So what this ACTUALLY does is make people who are sat on the fence, unsure of who to vote for, vote Trump. Belittling opposition supporters emboldens them. Sanctimoniously condescending opposition supporters emboldens them. Some people still don't get it. [br So .what did trumpton mean by the remark that ' they' are eating your pets'? may have been aimed at so called illegals but some of those would more likely have legal relations within the US ... Anyway the blokes a nutter and you get what you pay for and pay for what you get.....time will tell |
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Post by Icegas on Nov 7, 2024 9:52:37 GMT
The Lefty bias media people, are once again,like with Brexit, left confused and bitter by the result. Hopelessly out of touch with working class people. Kamalas making her losers speech now. Another parallel with the Brexit vote. Democrats called Trump supporters stupid. Fascists and racist. So what this ACTUALLY does is make people who are sat on the fence, unsure of who to vote for, vote Trump. Belittling opposition supporters emboldens them. Sanctimoniously condescending opposition supporters emboldens them. Some people still don't get it. The arrogant left can't admit when they are wrong. I'm not a racist.Yet Im called one.I will never be a fascist.But Im also labelled one by some loons on the left. You were,and will continue to be if you are from the left and now double down on your behaviour, in the face of your defeat due to logic... mentally irregular and unhinged. Take this clip for example... the view, the most disgusting brainwashing show on the planet,hosted by angry woman. The woman of colour there stated uneducated white woman voted for trump. OK, you've drawn the line in the sand of what side you stand on. So what about the uneducated black woman that voted for the Loser in the election race.? Some voted for her... A blatantly race baiting comment that is some how allowed. |
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Post by Icegas on Nov 7, 2024 9:58:29 GMT
Another parallel with the Brexit vote. Democrats called Trump supporters stupid. Fascists and racist. So what this ACTUALLY does is make people who are sat on the fence, unsure of who to vote for, vote Trump. Belittling opposition supporters emboldens them. Sanctimoniously condescending opposition supporters emboldens them. Some people still don't get it. [br So .what did trumpton mean by the remark that ' they' are eating your pets'? may have been aimed at so called illegals but some of those would more likely have legal relations within the US ... Anyway the blokes a nutter and you get what you pay for and pay for what you get.....time will tell Yes, that you have no idea that of which you speak of. |
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Post by Icegas on Nov 7, 2024 10:05:29 GMT
Trump did 2-3.5% better than any of the opinion polls in 2016 and 2020. So if the 7 swing seats are 'on a knife edge' he could well win them all. Harris is up 1% in Wisconsin and Michigan. Even if she turns those into wins, not going to be enough. She would definitely need Pennsylvania, where Trump is 8-11 (despite the polls showing a tie). Bookies odds on the last day of voting Trump 4-6, Harris 11-8. Polls on Nov 5th Actual results Trump National H 1.2 T3.3 +4.5 Arizona T 1.7 T5.5 +3.8 Georgia T 1.2 T2.2 +1.0 Michigan H 1.8 T1.5 +3.3 North Carolina T 1.3 T3.3 +2.0 Nevada T 0.6 T3.8 +2.8 Pennsylvania Tie T1.9 +1.9 Wisconsin H 1.1 T1.2 +2.3 A thumping win in the popular vote. Interesting that Trump did even better in the non-swing states than Harris. Look at California. Harris prediction was +24.8. Result was +17.4. As I may have mentioned, several times before, the bookies odds give a far better indication of what will happen in future events than the pollsters. The BBC, as ever, were talking bollocks. "Democrats cautiously optimistic". "Swing States on a knife edge". "Too close to call". Watching the presenters squirm as they covered the Trump landslide was pure comedy gold. I said this yesterday, I watched podcasters online all through election night.And even thought right leaning, and it was clear Trump had won by 2am really.. they never confirmed it until Fox announced it. Never will I invest in MSM again. Trump has systematically killed Main stream media, apart from fox news over the past decade. Even piers Morgan,and the fool that he is, comes out of this smelling of roses as he predicted this a month ago. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Nov 7, 2024 10:21:23 GMT
...with those weak,stupid insults! Based on one, post! These two told us Trump was a racist, now they have to deal with him. You have also have done so before on here in regards to Trump,myself,Basel and others you disagreed with.So your not grabbing any moral highground by saying "I thought you were better than LTDgas".. who is insane! now after all the lefites lies have fallen on deaf ears. I don't understand why you've suddenly turned so aggressive. You got the result you wanted and should be happy and you're acting like Trump lost, lashing out at anyone who opposed him. Celebrate if you want but don't start a witch hunt.That's what Trump has promised. As he did with the Supreme Court last time and got his way on many decisions, he has already said that he wants even the neutral Government offices to be supportive of the President. Like Oldie I believe he is a useful front man. He will pack the Administration with Republican supporters, and in 4 years it will be difficult for any one to change the system. He has won and won well. you have to give him credit. He will have the complete system at his command. But like Brexiteers and their 'we didn't get the Brexit we expected and wanted' I firmly believe in 4 years time when Elon Musk replaces Trump the American people will be saying that 'we didn't get the Great America' we were promised and wanted......' |
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Post by oldie on Nov 7, 2024 10:41:59 GMT
I don't understand why you've suddenly turned so aggressive. You got the result you wanted and should be happy and you're acting like Trump lost, lashing out at anyone who opposed him. Celebrate if you want but don't start a witch hunt.That's what Trump has promised. As he did with the Supreme Court last time and got his way on many decisions, he has already said that he wants even the neutral Government offices to be supportive of the President. Like Oldie I believe he is a useful front man. He will pack the Administration with Republican supporters, and in 4 years it will be difficult for any one to change the system. He has won and won well. you have to give him credit. He will have the complete system at his command. But like Brexiteers and their 'we didn't get the Brexit we expected and wanted' I firmly believe in 4 years time when Elon Musk replaces Trump the American people will be saying that 'we didn't get the Great America' we were promised and wanted......'This Absolutely |
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Post by baselswh on Nov 7, 2024 10:47:35 GMT
I don't understand why you've suddenly turned so aggressive. You got the result you wanted and should be happy and you're acting like Trump lost, lashing out at anyone who opposed him. Celebrate if you want but don't start a witch hunt.That's what Trump has promised. As he did with the Supreme Court last time and got his way on many decisions, he has already said that he wants even the neutral Government offices to be supportive of the President. Like Oldie I believe he is a useful front man. He will pack the Administration with Republican supporters, and in 4 years it will be difficult for any one to change the system. He has won and won well. you have to give him credit. He will have the complete system at his command. But like Brexiteers and their 'we didn't get the Brexit we expected and wanted' I firmly believe in 4 years time when Elon Musk replaces Trump the American people will be saying that 'we didn't get the Great America' we were promised and wanted......'I would rather have Musk than the stench coming from our Government. |
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Post by alftupper on Nov 7, 2024 10:58:43 GMT
The majority of your posts, consist of insulting those who disagree with you. You`re doing it now. That`s not debating points. But talking about limited ability, what happened to your family`s cautious optimism that Harris would win Pennsylvania? Oh, dear! Can you please let me know who they`re cautiously optimistic will win next year`s boat race? I`ll make a fortune betting on the other. My family are upset and with a degree of despair. My eldest grandson, who works in DC text me early this morning when it was clear Trump would win and asked me if I had a spare room😂😂 As for insulting you, what do you expect? Out of the blue and with no context to this thread you bring up something from my teenage years as if that is at all relevant. I confess that is all my fault for declaring that thought from my 17th year, I shouldn't have been so open, quite a few years ago now. But it is pathetic for you to keep raising it, so you can expect a challenge. Of course you could engage with this topic and the details rather than rabbit on about my youth. Try it. But I`m not rabbiting on about your youth. You`re being deliberately disingenuous. That`s why I keep on. You used this forum a couple of years ago, to tell everybody that you looked back with fondness on the murderous rampage of the Baader Meinhoffer gang. Your post was nothing to do with how you felt at 17, it was how you felt now, looking back at those days. You went full Marcel Proust. Just so there could be no doubt, I asked you if you meant what you`d said. And you repeated it. You may have changed your mind about it all over the course of the last couple of years, but that`s a different matter. And even if you have, the fact still remains that ( in your late 60s ) you were still reminiscing about the "Heady days " of the Red Army Faction. Now you can get back to your insults. PS. I`m sorry your family have taken it so badly. I`m sure they`ll be fine. |
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Post by alftupper on Nov 7, 2024 11:17:13 GMT
I don't understand why you've suddenly turned so aggressive. You got the result you wanted and should be happy and you're acting like Trump lost, lashing out at anyone who opposed him. Celebrate if you want but don't start a witch hunt.But like Brexiteers and their 'we didn't get the Brexit we expected and wanted' I firmly believe in 4 years time when Elon Musk replaces Trump the American people will be saying that 'we didn't get the Great America' we were promised and wanted......'They almost certainly will. People get fed up very quickly, and look and hope for something better. Not something exclusive to Brexit. Look at the last three US elections. Elected Trump. Kicked Trump out and elected Biden. Kicked Biden out and re-elected Trump. Probably goes back to the very dawn of electing people to have some influence over you. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Nov 7, 2024 11:18:23 GMT
That's what Trump has promised. As he did with the Supreme Court last time and got his way on many decisions, he has already said that he wants even the neutral Government offices to be supportive of the President. Like Oldie I believe he is a useful front man. He will pack the Administration with Republican supporters, and in 4 years it will be difficult for any one to change the system. He has won and won well. you have to give him credit. He will have the complete system at his command. But like Brexiteers and their 'we didn't get the Brexit we expected and wanted' I firmly believe in 4 years time when Elon Musk replaces Trump the American people will be saying that 'we didn't get the Great America' we were promised and wanted......'This Absolutely Musk cannot be the POTUS. He wasn't born in the US of A. |
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Post by alftupper on Nov 7, 2024 11:27:25 GMT
Another parallel with the Brexit vote. Democrats called Trump supporters stupid. Fascists and racist. So what this ACTUALLY does is make people who are sat on the fence, unsure of who to vote for, vote Trump. Belittling opposition supporters emboldens them. Sanctimoniously condescending opposition supporters emboldens them. Some people still don't get it. [br So .what did trumpton mean by the remark that ' they' are eating your pets'? may have been aimed at so called illegals but some of those would more likely have legal relations within the US ... Anyway the blokes a nutter and you get what you pay for and pay for what you get.....time will tell Well, I`m sorry, but it`s an undeniable fact that illegal immigrants have been have been chomping their way through ordinary Americans` four legged friends. They even have their own restaurant chain now. Pet a Manger. |
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Post by alftupper on Nov 7, 2024 11:36:15 GMT
The Lefty bias media people, are once again,like with Brexit, left confused and bitter by the result. Hopelessly out of touch with working class people. Kamalas making her losers speech now. Another parallel with the Brexit vote. Democrats called Trump supporters stupid. Fascists and racist. So what this ACTUALLY does is make people who are sat on the fence, unsure of who to vote for, vote Trump. Belittling opposition supporters emboldens them. Sanctimoniously condescending opposition supporters emboldens them. Some people still don't get it. Agreed. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the Brexit arguments, getting the president of a foreign country to wag an admonishing finger in the faces of the UK electorate was a major mistake. Nobody likes to be threatened. |
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