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Post by baldrick on Oct 23, 2024 11:27:36 GMT
X has been part of the social media landscape since it's inception as Twitter. Journalists, both as individuals and the publications they work for have been posting their articles, or links to, since day one. I've understood that from day one,and I completely agree. However...if myself or indeed you, posted something on here that our different sides disagree with, sometimes what we could have shared would be classed as ..." oh something you saw on twitter" See the landscape of acceptance is a difficult one to balance today. I personally think everything on X is Fair game, and it's up to the reader to understand it's content, and indeed accept it or challenge it. Twitter is a conduit, it's the information and the source that needs to be examined. However, the algorithms do lead to recommendations from certain sources, made worse since Musk took control. That's not me saying that, but a right of centre journalist I cited the other day. |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 11:32:18 GMT
I've understood that from day one,and I completely agree. However...if myself or indeed you, posted something on here that our different sides disagree with, sometimes what we could have shared would be classed as ..." oh something you saw on twitter" See the landscape of acceptance is a difficult one to balance today. I personally think everything on X is Fair game, and it's up to the reader to understand it's content, and indeed accept it or challenge it. Twitter is a conduit, it's the information and the source that needs to be examined. However, the algorithms do lead to recommendations from certain sources, made worse since Musk took control. That's not me saying that, but a right of centre journalist I cited the other day. In his opinion. Nice to have the chance to consider an opinion. |
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Post by Icegas on Oct 23, 2024 11:39:31 GMT
I've understood that from day one,and I completely agree. However...if myself or indeed you, posted something on here that our different sides disagree with, sometimes what we could have shared would be classed as ..." oh something you saw on twitter" See the landscape of acceptance is a difficult one to balance today. I personally think everything on X is Fair game, and it's up to the reader to understand it's content, and indeed accept it or challenge it. Twitter is a conduit, it's the information and the source that needs to be examined. However, the algorithms do lead to recommendations from certain sources, made worse since Musk took control. That's not me saying that, but a right of centre journalist I cited the other day. How has it gotten worse since Musk took control? Is that based on the fact that it's completely free now? Or that you don't like the freedom of any right sided content? |
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Post by Icegas on Oct 23, 2024 11:45:14 GMT
Twitter is a conduit, it's the information and the source that needs to be examined. However, the algorithms do lead to recommendations from certain sources, made worse since Musk took control. That's not me saying that, but a right of centre journalist I cited the other day. How has it gotten worse since Musk took control? Is that based on the fact that it's completely free now? Or that you don't like the freedom of any right sided content? Or his, sorry I misread you. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 12:01:52 GMT
Twitter is a conduit, it's the information and the source that needs to be examined. However, the algorithms do lead to recommendations from certain sources, made worse since Musk took control. That's not me saying that, but a right of centre journalist I cited the other day. How has it gotten worse since Musk took control? Is that based on the fact that it's completely free now? Or that you don't like the freedom of any right sided content? I don't think people are bothered that it is right wing as that is taken for granted with Musk's backing of Trump reinstating him after he was banned from the pre-takeover of Twitter for lying. His bribing of the voters, his views on women and stating openly his support for Trump. A lot of people have moved platforms, including academics, and many are expected to leave now that he is limiting how you can block users who abuse individuals, which women have complained impacts mostly on them. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2024 12:34:23 GMT
X has been part of the social media landscape since it's inception as Twitter. Journalists, both as individuals and the publications they work for have been posting their articles, or links to, since day one. I've understood that from day one,and I completely agree. However...if myself or indeed you, posted something on here that our different sides disagree with, sometimes what we could have shared would be classed as ..." oh something you saw on twitter" See the landscape of acceptance is a difficult one to balance today. I personally think everything on X is Fair game, and it's up to the reader to understand it's content, and indeed accept it or challenge it. I agree Posting something on here which is just a link with no context (be that humour or a serious point being made) is open to the charge "just something on Twitter" It's like copy and paste from the Daily Mail without comment or context, the torrent of which we see everyday on this forum. Still, just a couple of weeks to go and this thread will be redundant and those of us who support democracy, freedom of expression and fundamental human rights may well be licking our wounds as I am coming to believe that Trump may just squeeze in. A disaster and hastens the decline of modern liberal values. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2024 12:45:00 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 12:52:35 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 23, 2024 13:03:47 GMT
I've understood that from day one,and I completely agree. However...if myself or indeed you, posted something on here that our different sides disagree with, sometimes what we could have shared would be classed as ..." oh something you saw on twitter" See the landscape of acceptance is a difficult one to balance today. I personally think everything on X is Fair game, and it's up to the reader to understand it's content, and indeed accept it or challenge it. I agree Posting something on here which is just a link with no context (be that humour or a serious point being made) is open to the charge "just something on Twitter" It's like copy and paste from the Daily Mail without comment or context, the torrent of which we see everyday on this forum. Still, just a couple of weeks to go and this thread will be redundant and those of us who support democracy, freedom of expression and fundamental human rights may well be licking our wounds as I am coming to believe that Trump may just squeeze in. A disaster and hastens the decline of modern liberal values. Freedom of speech and expression. Before Musk, Twitter had banned Trump, yet still allowed official accounts from people/groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, Iranian Government, Putin.........where were your complaints about "freedom of speech and expression" then? |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 13:09:55 GMT
Just imagine how irritating and insulting it will be for white Trump voters,to be called fascist and racist by these Commie tosses from the UK.
What insufferable smugness.
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Post by trymer on Oct 23, 2024 13:23:22 GMT
I've understood that from day one,and I completely agree. However...if myself or indeed you, posted something on here that our different sides disagree with, sometimes what we could have shared would be classed as ..." oh something you saw on twitter" See the landscape of acceptance is a difficult one to balance today. I personally think everything on X is Fair game, and it's up to the reader to understand it's content, and indeed accept it or challenge it. A disaster and hastens the decline of modern liberal values. Another good reason to hope that Trump wins then.....although 'values' is probably the wrong word. |
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Post by trymer on Oct 23, 2024 13:25:57 GMT
Just imagine how irritating and insulting it will be for white Trump voters,to be called fascist and racist by these Commie tosses from the UK. What insufferable smugness. I didnt get a labour campaigner here last time but in 2019 I did and I told him to eff off, if he had started rabbiting in an American accent I would probably of let the dogs out to play. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 14:14:28 GMT
Just imagine how irritating and insulting it will be for white Trump voters,to be called fascist and racist by these Commie tosses from the UK. What insufferable smugness. Imagine how irritating it is for people who vote Labour to be called 'Commie tosses [sic]' by posters on a football forum or even woke! What insufferable smugness! |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Oct 23, 2024 14:15:45 GMT
I agree Posting something on here which is just a link with no context (be that humour or a serious point being made) is open to the charge "just something on Twitter" It's like copy and paste from the Daily Mail without comment or context, the torrent of which we see everyday on this forum. Still, just a couple of weeks to go and this thread will be redundant and those of us who support democracy, freedom of expression and fundamental human rights may well be licking our wounds as I am coming to believe that Trump may just squeeze in. A disaster and hastens the decline of modern liberal values. Freedom of speech and expression. Before Musk, Twitter had banned Trump, yet still allowed official accounts from people/groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, Iranian Government, Putin.........where were your complaints about "freedom of speech and expression" then? How do you know they weren't banned also after complaints..... |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 14:17:20 GMT
Just imagine how irritating and insulting it will be for white Trump voters,to be called fascist and racist by these Commie tosses from the UK. What insufferable smugness. Imagine how irritating it is for people who vote Labour to be called 'Commie tosses [sic]' by posters on a football forum or even woke! What insufferable smugness! Only the fanatical activists. 😜 |
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 23, 2024 14:55:44 GMT
Freedom of speech and expression. Before Musk, Twitter had banned Trump, yet still allowed official accounts from people/groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, Iranian Government, Putin.........where were your complaints about "freedom of speech and expression" then? How do you know they weren't banned also after complaints..... Because they were not. It's been widely reported in the MSM. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2024 17:19:44 GMT
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2024 17:21:51 GMT
Just imagine how irritating and insulting it will be for white Trump voters,to be called fascist and racist by these Commie tosses from the UK. What insufferable smugness. You are still doing it I see, defining people by their skin colour. Unreal |
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Post by oldie on Oct 23, 2024 17:23:27 GMT
A disaster and hastens the decline of modern liberal values. Another good reason to hope that Trump wins then.....although 'values' is probably the wrong word. Yes, I think we are aware of your attraction to dictators |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 17:27:05 GMT
Just imagine how irritating and insulting it will be for white Trump voters,to be called fascist and racist by these Commie tosses from the UK. What insufferable smugness. You are still doing it I see, defining people by their skin colour. Unreal No I'm not. In this case,black Trump voters would'nt get accused. It is your lot defining people by their colour. |
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