oldie
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Post by oldie on Jul 10, 2024 8:54:51 GMT
Amongst a certain community Phillips blames.....MEN ! she is another one without the guts to say it as it is ,although she likes to tell everyone what a 'strong woman' she is the reality is that she just has a big loud mouth. She had a majority of 13,500 (?) before this election but its less than 700 now, I know that numbers can be twisted to win any argument but this whole election has been really interesting,Labour win a landslide but with less votes, their majorities in certain areas have been cut,more Independents than ever. Things seem to have changed and could change a lot more if Labour fail to live up to the expectations that they have raised...if Labour become as unpoular as the last lot what happens next ? My take on the Labour fall in overall support. 1. Their were/are many members and supporters in the party that are very much to the left of Starmer, those that came out in numbers to support Corbyn in 2017 and to a lesser degree in 2019. They didn't turn up for Starmer. 2. Starmer's "Ming Vase" strategy prevented any serious missteps, but enthused practically no one. 3. People generally are fed up and disconnected. 4. Gaza. Starmer's decision not to call for a ceasefire in Gaza alienated the majority of the Muslim vote
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trymer
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Post by trymer on Jul 10, 2024 16:34:53 GMT
Phillips blames.....MEN ! she is another one without the guts to say it as it is ,although she likes to tell everyone what a 'strong woman' she is the reality is that she just has a big loud mouth. She had a majority of 13,500 (?) before this election but its less than 700 now, I know that numbers can be twisted to win any argument but this whole election has been really interesting,Labour win a landslide but with less votes, their majorities in certain areas have been cut,more Independents than ever. Things seem to have changed and could change a lot more if Labour fail to live up to the expectations that they have raised...if Labour become as unpoular as the last lot what happens next ? My take on the Labour fall in overall support. 1. Their were/are many members and supporters in the party that are very much to the left of Starmer, those that came out in numbers to support Corbyn in 2017 and to a lesser degree in 2019. They didn't turn up for Starmer. 2. Starmer's "Ming Vase" strategy prevented any serious missteps, but enthused practically no one. 3. People generally are fed up and disconnected. 4. Gaza. Starmer's decision not to call for a ceasefire in Gaza alienated the majority of the Muslim vote I agree and added to 3 is the fact that it was a low pretty low turnout...I keep saying it Labour are going to have to live up to the expectations that they have created or there will be even more fed up and disconnected voters.
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oldie
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Post by oldie on Jul 10, 2024 18:00:16 GMT
My take on the Labour fall in overall support. 1. Their were/are many members and supporters in the party that are very much to the left of Starmer, those that came out in numbers to support Corbyn in 2017 and to a lesser degree in 2019. They didn't turn up for Starmer. 2. Starmer's "Ming Vase" strategy prevented any serious missteps, but enthused practically no one. 3. People generally are fed up and disconnected. 4. Gaza. Starmer's decision not to call for a ceasefire in Gaza alienated the majority of the Muslim vote I agree and added to 3 is the fact that it was a low pretty low turnout...I keep saying it Labour are going to have to live up to the expectations that they have created or there will be even more fed up and disconnected voters. Absolutely If they fail to address people's concerns, and that is the majority of people then this country will end up in a dark place (depending on your point of view)
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