oldie
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2024 15:29:07 GMT
How are we going to pay for that? "The UK government's borrowing rate, or the difference between its public sector spending and income, varies from month to month. In April 2024, the UK government's borrowing was £20.5 billion, which was the fourth highest April borrowing since 1993. As of April 2024, the UK government's debt was 97.9% of its GDP, and 89.9% when excluding the Bank of England's debt. This is the highest debt the UK government has incurred since the early 1960" Go Nigel....😂😂😂 Reform will drain a few swamps here and there,they have plans. So much more positive than Labour. Incentivise the unemployed to work! With a real wage packet. Change peoples lives. Not just pay them to stay at home,rotting,in mind,body and soul. As Labour will do. More Stunning analysis from the Reform Party support base.
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Post by trymer on Jun 18, 2024 15:36:15 GMT
How are we going to pay for that? "The UK government's borrowing rate, or the difference between its public sector spending and income, varies from month to month. In April 2024, the UK government's borrowing was £20.5 billion, which was the fourth highest April borrowing since 1993. As of April 2024, the UK government's debt was 97.9% of its GDP, and 89.9% when excluding the Bank of England's debt. This is the highest debt the UK government has incurred since the early 1960" Go Nigel....😂😂😂 Reform will drain a few swamps here and there,they have plans. So much more positive than Labour. Incentivise the unemployed to work! With a real wage packet. Change peoples lives. Not just pay them to stay at home,rotting,in mind,body and soul. As Labour will do. Labour (like the Democrats in the USA) want people on benefits,then they can say "vote for us because the evil far right would slash your benefits,we promise to raise them".
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 18, 2024 15:41:54 GMT
No Oldie. As always your view of things are just black & white. You do seem to be unable to look at things realistically. The threshold is for lower paid workers. You do understand that? Guess what, there are other tax brackets available! Yeah ok, if you say 2+2=4 is too "black & white...then guilty as charged. But I still cannot believe you are promoting increasing the tax take🤔🤭 No. Once again you do not understand. I am not promoting increasing the tax take. I am just explaining to you how a Labour government will increase the tax take, but still claim not to increase the taxes.
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2024 16:10:29 GMT
Yeah ok, if you say 2+2=4 is too "black & white...then guilty as charged. But I still cannot believe you are promoting increasing the tax take🤔🤭 No. Once again you do not understand. I am not promoting increasing the tax take. I am just explaining to you how a Labour government will increase the tax take, but still claim not to increase the taxes. Oh right. I thought we were discussing Reform policies. In any event is that a correct characterisation of the tax policy? The current thresholds have been set and frozen by the Tories. As far as I am aware Labour have not gone to Parliament with their Budget for approval. I am aware that what they will inherit is a mess so their room for manoeuvre will be constrained. I think against that backdrop they are being very "conservative" with their statements. Unlike Reform, who will say anything to satisfy the baying hyenas. You takes your choices
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 18, 2024 16:19:48 GMT
No. Once again you do not understand. I am not promoting increasing the tax take. I am just explaining to you how a Labour government will increase the tax take, but still claim not to increase the taxes. Oh right. I thought we were discussing Reform policies. In any event is that a correct characterisation of the tax policy? The current thresholds have been set and frozen by the Tories. As far as I am aware Labour have not gone to Parliament with their Budget for approval. I am aware that what they will inherit is a mess so their room for manoeuvre will be constrained. I think against that backdrop they are being very "conservative" with their statements. Unlike Reform, who will say anything to satisfy the baying hyenas. You takes your choices Tories and Labour are two cheeks of the same arse. Both of them are being dishonest and not telling the truth. What annoys me is that both of them are spending their time trying to work out how to take more in tax, without people being aware until it's too late. They should be spending that effort on reducing government waste and spending what they already receive more wisely. We are seeing same old ways of working, the same old policies, with the same old outcome. Things need to change. Can Reform bring that change? Nobody knows but they are the only Party who are attempting to change the way the country is governed. Everyone has had enough of the stale Labour and Tory parties.
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2024 16:20:59 GMT
Wait... .😂😂😂😂 newsthump.com/2024/06/18/the-deep-state-is-trying-to-sabotage-reform-uk-by-making-us-select-so-many-candidates-with-fascist-tendencies-by-nigel-farage/"The deep state is trying to sabotage Reform UK by making us select so many candidates with fascist tendencies’ by Nigel Farage" Farage: "This time, they’ve cunningly infiltrated our ranks, compelling us to select a staggering 41 candidates with links to far-right fascists. It’s a devious tactic, aimed squarely at discrediting our righteous cause. Let’s be clear: I am not saying that we, as a party, have a propensity to attract individuals with extremist views. Perish the thought! There is nothing about the company I have started, and the policies I have advocated, that have in any way attracted the sort of people who embrace fascism." 😂😂😂
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2024 16:27:56 GMT
Oh right. I thought we were discussing Reform policies. In any event is that a correct characterisation of the tax policy? The current thresholds have been set and frozen by the Tories. As far as I am aware Labour have not gone to Parliament with their Budget for approval. I am aware that what they will inherit is a mess so their room for manoeuvre will be constrained. I think against that backdrop they are being very "conservative" with their statements. Unlike Reform, who will say anything to satisfy the baying hyenas. You takes your choices Tories and Labour are two cheeks of the same arse. Both of them are being dishonest and not telling the truth. What annoys me is that both of them are spending their time trying to work out how to take more in tax, without people being aware until it's too late. They should be spending that effort on reducing government waste and spending what they already receive more wisely. We are seeing same old ways of working, the same old policies, with the same old outcome. Things need to change. Can Reform bring that change? Nobody knows but they are the only Party who are attempting to change the way the country is governed. Everyone has had enough of the stale Labour and Tory parties. Yeah, conservative, reticent, economics is just that, whatever the party you support. But your charactisation of Labour's tax policy was wrong. You were quoting current Tory policy. (Although I believe given the the fiscal straight jacket they will inherit, they will continue with them) This feels like 97 all over again when Brown constrained Blair and the rest of the Labour Party for 4 years, despite the massive majority.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 18, 2024 16:40:07 GMT
Wait... .😂😂😂😂 newsthump.com/2024/06/18/the-deep-state-is-trying-to-sabotage-reform-uk-by-making-us-select-so-many-candidates-with-fascist-tendencies-by-nigel-farage/"The deep state is trying to sabotage Reform UK by making us select so many candidates with fascist tendencies’ by Nigel Farage" Farage: "This time, they’ve cunningly infiltrated our ranks, compelling us to select a staggering 41 candidates with links to far-right fascists. It’s a devious tactic, aimed squarely at discrediting our righteous cause. Let’s be clear: I am not saying that we, as a party, have a propensity to attract individuals with extremist views. Perish the thought! There is nothing about the company I have started, and the policies I have advocated, that have in any way attracted the sort of people who embrace fascism." 😂😂😂 Yet another smug 'comedian'. Many are sick of them too.
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2024 16:46:55 GMT
In the same vein The Daily Mail gets quoted quite a lot on here. In the latest news newsthump.com/2024/06/18/scientists-finally-uncover-mystery-other-planet-inhabited-by-the-daily-mail/😂😂😂😂 "Of course, we’ve all believed that for some time that the Daily Mail occupies a different reality to the rest of us, so it’s a great relief to finally be able to identify it, and confirm it’s not the same as our own.” "It is, of course, a gas giant type planet and we’ve named it The Past. “It lies in the very outer reaches of the cosmos, somewhere between Queen Victoria, Nazi Germany and an episode of Ms Marple.” And what is the Daily Mail’s planet actually like? He continued, “It’s a very strange environment. For a start, the atmosphere is entirely rose-tinted. On The Past, Margaret Thatcher is Empress of Britain’s colonies, immigration causes cancer and women don’t sunbathe, they ‘flaunt their curves’.” 😂😂😂😂 An astonishingly accurate representation of one or two on this forum
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2024 18:28:51 GMT
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 18, 2024 18:43:41 GMT
Lots of people are very upset with the tories as they haven’t stopped immigration , starmer has said he’s going to slash it, train our people to do the job . I don’t believe a word starmer says , maybe he does
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2024 18:53:08 GMT
Lots of people are very upset with the tories as they haven’t stopped immigration , starmer has said he’s going to slash it, train our people to do the job . I don’t believe a word starmer says , maybe he does Not the point. He could have supported "our Nige" But he chose not to. Billionaire isn't he?
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Post by icegas on Jun 18, 2024 19:17:56 GMT
Reform will drain a few swamps here and there,they have plans. So much more positive than Labour. Incentivise the unemployed to work! With a real wage packet. Change peoples lives. Not just pay them to stay at home,rotting,in mind,body and soul. As Labour will do. More Stunning analysis from the Reform Party support base. But it's true...
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 18, 2024 19:20:07 GMT
Lots of people are very upset with the tories as they haven’t stopped immigration , starmer has said he’s going to slash it, train our people to do the job . I don’t believe a word starmer says , maybe he does Not the point. He could have supported "our Nige" But he chose not to. Billionaire isn't he? So your now celebrating a billionaire joking the commie party , I though you all hated the rich 🙄🙄, so you’ll sell your souls for a few ££££ Embarrassing
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 18, 2024 19:26:45 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 18, 2024 19:29:16 GMT
Not the point. He could have supported "our Nige" But he chose not to. Billionaire isn't he? So your now celebrating a billionaire joking the commie party , I though you all hated the rich 🙄🙄, so you’ll sell your souls for a few ££££ Embarrassing The truth is that when people 'donate' they usually expect something in return. Officially that's not the way it should work, but it does. Maybe he sees that a future Labour government can 'do something for him'?
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2024 21:50:49 GMT
So your now celebrating a billionaire joking the commie party , I though you all hated the rich 🙄🙄, so you’ll sell your souls for a few ££££ Embarrassing The truth is that when people 'donate' they usually expect something in return. Officially that's not the way it should work, but it does. Maybe he sees that a future Labour government can 'do something for him'? Shock horror The Labour Party ditches it's stupid class warfare and recognises to distribute wealth you have to create it. Hello... Than eff for that
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Post by oldie on Jun 18, 2024 22:15:19 GMT
Go girls
Ipsos publishes its first MRP (multiple regression and post stratification) model of the 2024 General Election.
This Ipsos MRP projection uses a large-scale online survey of nearly 20,000 participants on the Ipsos KnowledgePanel, and population data at a constituency level, to project which party will win individual seats at the upcoming General Election. The estimated seat counts, with upper and lower range estimates, are as follows:
Labour 453 (with a range of 439 to 462 seats) Conservatives 115 (with a range of 99 to 123 seats) Liberal Democrats 38 (with a range of 35 to 48 seats) SNP 15 (with a range of 13 to 23 seats) Plaid Cymru 4 (with a range of 2 to 5 seats) Reform UK 3 (with range of 3 to 10 seats) Green Party 3 (with a range of 0 to 4 seats)
Gert Lush mind 😂😂😂😂
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Post by baselswh on Jun 19, 2024 7:13:10 GMT
Andy Brown,representing the Labour Party in Aberdeenshire is under investigation - meanwhile suspended - for sharing pro Russian material online and antisemitism.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 19, 2024 7:35:28 GMT
Go girls Ipsos publishes its first MRP (multiple regression and post stratification) model of the 2024 General Election. This Ipsos MRP projection uses a large-scale online survey of nearly 20,000 participants on the Ipsos KnowledgePanel, and population data at a constituency level, to project which party will win individual seats at the upcoming General Election. The estimated seat counts, with upper and lower range estimates, are as follows: Labour 453 (with a range of 439 to 462 seats) Conservatives 115 (with a range of 99 to 123 seats) Liberal Democrats 38 (with a range of 35 to 48 seats) SNP 15 (with a range of 13 to 23 seats) Plaid Cymru 4 (with a range of 2 to 5 seats) Reform UK 3 (with range of 3 to 10 seats) Green Party 3 (with a range of 0 to 4 seats) Gert Lush mind 😂😂😂😂 Why don't you tell us something new!
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