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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 16:39:00 GMT
I could be, the same applies I don't think you can compare the UK to Gaza somehow. I am not, I am comparing idiocy. That's the one redeeming feature of stupidity, ignorance and prejudice. They do not recognise race, creed nor skin colour. They afflict equally.
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Post by lostinspace on May 28, 2024 16:45:33 GMT
I see that Spain Norway and Eire have acknowledged a Palestinian state.... interesting ...or controversial? Ridiculous. How can you call 'Palestine' a state. Define Palestine. Is this just Gaza? How do you recognize a place ran by terrorists? What is the point when the Palestinians themselves don't want a State, unless it involves the complete destruction of Israel and all the Jews in the region. I suppose that as Eire and Spain are used to having terrorists on there back door,it doesn't take that much to have some sort of sentiment towards another lot..Not sure if there have been any sorts of problems akin to this in Norway
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 16:51:35 GMT
Ridiculous. How can you call 'Palestine' a state. Define Palestine. Is this just Gaza? How do you recognize a place ran by terrorists? What is the point when the Palestinians themselves don't want a State, unless it involves the complete destruction of Israel and all the Jews in the region. I suppose that as Eire and Spain are used to having terrorists on there back door,it doesn't take that much to have some sort of sentiment towards another lot..Not sure if there have been any sorts of problems akin to this in Norway Even for you that extrapolation beggars belief
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 16:59:57 GMT
I see that Spain Norway and Eire have acknowledged a Palestinian state.... interesting ...or controversial? Ridiculous. How can you call 'Palestine' a state. Define Palestine. Is this just Gaza? How do you recognize a place ran by terrorists? What is the point when the Palestinians themselves don't want a State, unless it involves the complete destruction of Israel and all the Jews in the region. Palestine as it was includes what we now call Israel. The Palestinians have to get over that in order to achieve recognition as a State. The same for the Israelis, they have to accept a Palestinian State. Recognising that right by Norway, Spain and Eire is a tentative step in the right direction.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 28, 2024 17:04:07 GMT
Ridiculous. How can you call 'Palestine' a state. Define Palestine. Is this just Gaza? How do you recognize a place ran by terrorists? What is the point when the Palestinians themselves don't want a State, unless it involves the complete destruction of Israel and all the Jews in the region. Palestine as it was includes what we now call Israel. The Palestinians have to get over that in order to achieve recognition as a State. The same for the Israelis, they have to accept a Palestinian State. Recognising that right by Norway, Spain and Eire is a tentative step in the right direction. There has never been a Palestinian State! They tried taking over Jordan and that failed. Next they tried Lebenon, and that failed. Then they settled for Gaza.
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 17:15:01 GMT
This one. The State we interfered with after 1918, then effed off in 1948 when we worked out we couldn't do it.
"In 1947, the United Nations proposed the partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an internationally administered city. While the Jewish community largely accepted this plan, the Arab community rejected it, leading to the outbreak of civil war.
On May 14, 1948, the State of Israel was established, marking the end of British rule in Palestine. This event triggered the first Arab-Israeli War, involving neighboring Arab countries, which ultimately led to the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs."
Funny how our finger prints are all over the s**t in the Middle East
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Post by baselswh on May 28, 2024 17:31:03 GMT
On Israel's creation they officially stated Arabs welcome to stay in our Israeli country.
The Arabs declared war.All surroundingArab countries want to destroythe Israeli state. Even countries like Morocco wanted a piece of the antisemitic action.
Israel get the first punch in! 10 day shocker! Israel triumphant. Only Jerusalem is split.
Was'nt Palestine as a state first 'created' and spoken of in 1964? A kind of propaganda tool,but not an officially recognised country.
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 18:32:49 GMT
On Israel's creation they officially stated Arabs welcome to stay in our Israeli country. The Arabs declared war.All surroundingArab countries want to destroythe Israeli state. Even countries like Morocco wanted a piece of the antisemitic action. Israel get the first punch in! 10 day shocker! Israel triumphant. Only Jerusalem is split. Was'nt Palestine as a state first 'created' and spoken of in 1964? A kind of propaganda tool,but not an officially recognised country. Do yourself a favour and not comment on things you clearly know nothing about.
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Post by baselswh on May 28, 2024 20:00:20 GMT
On Israel's creation they officially stated Arabs welcome to stay in our Israeli country. The Arabs declared war.All surroundingArab countries want to destroythe Israeli state. Even countries like Morocco wanted a piece of the antisemitic action. Israel get the first punch in! 10 day shocker! Israel triumphant. Only Jerusalem is split. Was'nt Palestine as a state first 'created' and spoken of in 1964? A kind of propaganda tool,but not an officially recognised country. Do yourself a favour and not comment on things you clearly know nothing about. A basic record of course,but it's correct. I asked one question, but of course you rarely answer them.
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Post by oldie on May 28, 2024 20:20:29 GMT
Do yourself a favour and not comment on things you clearly know nothing about. A basic record of course,but it's correct. I asked one question, but of course you rarely answer them. 😂😂
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Post by baselswh on May 28, 2024 20:27:43 GMT
A basic record of course,but it's correct. I asked one question, but of course you rarely answer them. 😂😂 What's wrong with it?
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Post by baselswh on May 29, 2024 5:22:16 GMT
This one. The State we interfered with after 1918, then effed off in 1948 when we worked out we couldn't do it. "In 1947, the United Nations proposed the partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an internationally administered city. While the Jewish community largely accepted this plan, the Arab community rejected it, leading to the outbreak of civil war. On May 14, 1948, the State of Israel was established, marking the end of British rule in Palestine. This event triggered the first Arab-Israeli War, involving neighboring Arab countries, which ultimately led to the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs." Funny how our finger prints are all over the s**t in the Middle East Muslim Arab hatred of Jews "triggered" a war after Israel's 'official ' beginning. Israel welcomed Arabs to live in Israel,indeed it's written in their constitution.Such a tiny piece of land when comparing it to the Arab world. The Arabs/Muslims,in all their hatred,racism and 'wisdom' decided war was the best policy.Destroy Israel. Jewish people were in Jerusalem about 1600 years before the rise of Islam.🙂
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Post by Nobbygas on May 29, 2024 5:34:32 GMT
What do we know about Labour policies so far? The VAT on Private Schools is just class-war madness. It will not bring in much money as it means a lot of hard working people will not be able to send their kids Private. This will only add to the burden of State Schools. Plus, it will be challenged in the courts as how does this affect Universities? If a child going to a Private School has to pay VAT, why doesn't a student going to University pay it as well? How many Labour MP's send their kids to Private Schools?
Giving the vote to sixteen year old's. Another madcap policy.
Somewhere in their minds they will want to Nationalise something. From their talk on creating a "British Power Company" I'd be worried if I were one of them. The Railways are also probably one of their targets.
Worrying times as the Tories are also totally inept.
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Post by baselswh on May 29, 2024 5:42:30 GMT
100% , I want payback for that young girl The Qur'an Surat 5 "And We ordained therein for them: "Life for life[], eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation." Funny how those who so decry Islam choose to live by it. The Quran has plenty of narratives you can find in the Holy Bible. 🙂
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Post by baselswh on May 29, 2024 5:51:44 GMT
"HAMAS has to be cut out, and a proper Palestinian Government put in place." - I'd love to hear how this could be achieved! However, this is what Israel are attempting to do, especially the "Hamas has to be cut out' bit, so you should be supporting them ! "Ultimately this has to be a negotiated settlement which recognises a Palestinian State and guarantees the security of Israel and it's citizens." - The Palestinians have been offered their own state. They've been offered the two-state solution, and every time they have rejected it. Hamas refuse to negotiate. They state, quite clearly, that they will not stop the violence until Israel no longer exists. I also think Israel will laugh at any attempt by the Palestinians to 'guarantee the security of Israel and it's citizens'! Nice words Oldie, 'negotiated settlement' etc, but it will never happen. It has to happen. It starts by recognising the failure in history and the catastrophe that beset the Palestine in 1948. That recognition will help psychology at least. Israel has to get off it's high horse of entitlement, founded upon their choice of religion and interpretation of history. Arab states must express their support for a free election in a guaranteed Palestinian State. And help fund it's setting up. Palestinian's for this have to accept that there is no return to pre 1948, for the sake of the children to come. Anything else is to perpetuate this senseless violence. It doesn't help when we have ignorant half witted lunatics in our country egging on violence in a sick blood lust of revenge. And they have the vote. Democracy eh... Jews were in Jerusalem 1600 years before the rise of Islam.A tragic event. Many Palistinians are Hamas supporters. Hamas ,like the Nazi in Germany, must be destroyed. Etc.
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Post by oldie on May 29, 2024 6:23:45 GMT
This one. The State we interfered with after 1918, then effed off in 1948 when we worked out we couldn't do it. "In 1947, the United Nations proposed the partition of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an internationally administered city. While the Jewish community largely accepted this plan, the Arab community rejected it, leading to the outbreak of civil war. On May 14, 1948, the State of Israel was established, marking the end of British rule in Palestine. This event triggered the first Arab-Israeli War, involving neighboring Arab countries, which ultimately led to the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs." Funny how our finger prints are all over the s**t in the Middle East Muslim Arab hatred of Jews "triggered" a war after Israel's 'official ' beginning. Israel welcomed Arabs to live in Israel,indeed it's written in their constitution.Such a tiny piece of land when comparing it to the Arab world. The Arabs/Muslims,in all their hatred,racism and 'wisdom' decided war was the best policy.Destroy Israel. Jewish people were in Jerusalem about 1600 years before the rise of Islam.🙂 More rubbish
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Post by oldie on May 29, 2024 6:24:45 GMT
The Qur'an Surat 5 "And We ordained therein for them: "Life for life[], eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation." Funny how those who so decry Islam choose to live by it. The Quran has plenty of narratives you can find in the Holy Bible. 🙂 Whoooosh
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Post by oldie on May 29, 2024 6:26:38 GMT
It has to happen. It starts by recognising the failure in history and the catastrophe that beset the Palestine in 1948. That recognition will help psychology at least. Israel has to get off it's high horse of entitlement, founded upon their choice of religion and interpretation of history. Arab states must express their support for a free election in a guaranteed Palestinian State. And help fund it's setting up. Palestinian's for this have to accept that there is no return to pre 1948, for the sake of the children to come. Anything else is to perpetuate this senseless violence. It doesn't help when we have ignorant half witted lunatics in our country egging on violence in a sick blood lust of revenge. And they have the vote. Democracy eh... Jews were in Jerusalem 1600 years before the rise of Islam.A tragic event. Many Palistinians are Hamas supporters. Hamas ,like the Nazi in Germany, must be destroyed. Etc. Are you on a mission this morning to post a stream of the most ill informed opinions of the day?
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Post by baselswh on May 29, 2024 6:30:41 GMT
Muslim Arab hatred of Jews "triggered" a war after Israel's 'official ' beginning. Israel welcomed Arabs to live in Israel,indeed it's written in their constitution.Such a tiny piece of land when comparing it to the Arab world. The Arabs/Muslims,in all their hatred,racism and 'wisdom' decided war was the best policy.Destroy Israel. Jewish people were in Jerusalem about 1600 years before the rise of Islam.🙂 More rubbish Facts.
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Post by baselswh on May 29, 2024 6:32:51 GMT
Jews were in Jerusalem 1600 years before the rise of Islam.A tragic event. Many Palistinians are Hamas supporters. Hamas ,like the Nazi in Germany, must be destroyed. Etc. Are you on a mission this morning to post a stream of the most ill informed opinions of the day? Yet millions of people would agree. Unfortunately for you, civilisation cannot allow the destructive barbarism within Islam to win.
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