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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 6, 2024 11:00:31 GMT
No. His Hedge Fund pushed for the sale of ABN. Nothing else. They had nothing to do with RBS. You've got your facts wrong. See this equation Nobby 2+2=4 It doesn't matter which choice of 2 you choose, the answer is still 4 But you're wrong Oldie. Don't rely on someone on X to feed you information. The information is freely available on the internet! I thought you were the one who demanded 'facts' all the time! You are trying to pin something on him that just isn't there.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 6, 2024 12:49:51 GMT
Taxes will go up under Labour, but they're not being honest about it.
"The Sky News host pressed the shadow defence secretary on whether Labour would raise capital gains tax, stamp duty or the number of council tax bands. A Labour frontbencher has refused to rule out the party hiking property taxes if Sir Keir Starmer wins the General Election. Sky News presenter Kay Burley grilled John Healey on Chancellor Jeremy Hunt's challenge for Labour to match a new Tory pledge not to increase capital gains tax, stamp duty or the number of council tax bands. But Mr Healey repeatedly refused to rule out the move during the punchy interview this morning. He said: "There are dozens and dozens of specific taxes. The ones that are most important are those that cost working people the most. "We will not raise taxes on working people, we will not raise income tax, we will not raise VAT, we will not raise national insurance. Our plans do not require us to start looking at raising taxes across the board." Pressed on if Labour would increase capital gains tax, Mr Healey said: "Our plans do not require us to start looking at raising taxes..." On stamp duty, he added: "We will not raise the taxes that are most important to working people." Asked several more times about stamp duty, Mr Healey insisted he is "not going to go through the list". Burley said: "Why not it's really important?" Mr Healey replied: "The taxes that are most important to people - income tax, VAT and national insurance - will not be raised under a Labour government." The Sky News presenter then turned to council tax bands, saying: "Capital gains tax is really important to a lot of people, stamp duty really important to a lot of people. What about council tax bands? That affects almost all of us. What are you going to do about that?" Mr Healey said: "Our plans do not require us to look at raising taxes across the range of dozens of taxes there are." But Burley pressed: "I'm specifically asking you about council tax, property tax and the council tax bands." The Labour frontbencher said: "I'm not going to go through a list, we could be spending the next hour doing this. There are hundreds of taxes." Burley said: "Those three, what are you going to do about those? I'm asking you specifically about those taxes. You are not going to change them, is that right?" Mr Healey insisted Labour is "not going to start raising taxes across the board". The Sky host replied: "Dear oh dear, you need to answer the question because if you don't people are going to think you're going to put the taxes up." The shadow defence secretary said: "Where we have plans to change the taxes we've spelt those out and we've said what that money that we can raise will be used to do." Burley ended the interview, saying: "You're not ruling it out. You won't deny it."
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2024 13:03:26 GMT
Taxes will go up under Labour, but they're not being honest about it. "The Sky News host pressed the shadow defence secretary on whether Labour would raise capital gains tax, stamp duty or the number of council tax bands. A Labour frontbencher has refused to rule out the party hiking property taxes if Sir Keir Starmer wins the General Election. Sky News presenter Kay Burley grilled John Healey on Chancellor Jeremy Hunt's challenge for Labour to match a new Tory pledge not to increase capital gains tax, stamp duty or the number of council tax bands. But Mr Healey repeatedly refused to rule out the move during the punchy interview this morning. He said: "There are dozens and dozens of specific taxes. The ones that are most important are those that cost working people the most. "We will not raise taxes on working people, we will not raise income tax, we will not raise VAT, we will not raise national insurance. Our plans do not require us to start looking at raising taxes across the board." Pressed on if Labour would increase capital gains tax, Mr Healey said: "Our plans do not require us to start looking at raising taxes..." On stamp duty, he added: "We will not raise the taxes that are most important to working people." Asked several more times about stamp duty, Mr Healey insisted he is "not going to go through the list". Burley said: "Why not it's really important?" Mr Healey replied: "The taxes that are most important to people - income tax, VAT and national insurance - will not be raised under a Labour government." The Sky News presenter then turned to council tax bands, saying: "Capital gains tax is really important to a lot of people, stamp duty really important to a lot of people. What about council tax bands? That affects almost all of us. What are you going to do about that?" Mr Healey said: "Our plans do not require us to look at raising taxes across the range of dozens of taxes there are." But Burley pressed: "I'm specifically asking you about council tax, property tax and the council tax bands." The Labour frontbencher said: "I'm not going to go through a list, we could be spending the next hour doing this. There are hundreds of taxes." Burley said: "Those three, what are you going to do about those? I'm asking you specifically about those taxes. You are not going to change them, is that right?" Mr Healey insisted Labour is "not going to start raising taxes across the board". The Sky host replied: "Dear oh dear, you need to answer the question because if you don't people are going to think you're going to put the taxes up." The shadow defence secretary said: "Where we have plans to change the taxes we've spelt those out and we've said what that money that we can raise will be used to do." Burley ended the interview, saying: "You're not ruling it out. You won't deny it." The sort of conversation in the media that the Tories are begging to occur, anything that diverts the spotlight away from their record. I will wait to see what the manifesto contains before I say "how are you going to pay for that?" Meanwhile "Delinquentβ Sunak squandered Β£130 billion since last election" www.bestforbritain.org/_delinquent_sunak_squandered_130_billion
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2024 13:14:18 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 6, 2024 14:40:38 GMT
No point going after the Tories. They are finished. The election is all about how far down the Tories will fall. Labour have won it already. The spotlight has to be on Labour as we all want to know what they are going to do. So far, from the few policies we know, it doesn't look good.
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2024 14:57:30 GMT
No point going after the Tories. They are finished. The election is all about how far down the Tories will fall. Labour have won it already. The spotlight has to be on Labour as we all want to know what they are going to do. So far, from the few policies we know, it doesn't look good. Ok Seriously Yes, an articulated Manifesto is now past due. We wait. Maybe Pink Floyd expressed it best back in 1973. "Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day You fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town Waiting for someone or something to show you the way Tired of lying in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain And you are young and life is long, and there is time to kill today And then one day you find ten years have got behind you No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking Racing around to come up behind you again Sun is the same, in a relative way, but you're older Shorter of breath and one day closer to death Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time Plans that either come to naught, or half a page of scribbled lines Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say" π€π€
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 6, 2024 15:30:56 GMT
Do you think putting VAT onto Private School fees is a good idea? Do you think the "British Energy Company" will be able to deliver cheap power? Do you agree with the setting up of another "Border Force"? Labour are targeting a 'Stable Economy'. Personally I would prefer a successful economy. What do you think? Labour have promised not to increase Income Tax, VAT or National Insurance. They have also said they will not borrow any more. Printing money would be inflationary, so where is the money coming from to pay for their policies? Labour have not said how they would return illegal immigrants. They have no plan for that. How would you return illegals?
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Post by baselswh on Jun 6, 2024 15:42:01 GMT
No point going after the Tories. They are finished. The election is all about how far down the Tories will fall. Labour have won it already. The spotlight has to be on Labour as we all want to know what they are going to do. So far, from the few policies we know, it doesn't look good. Ok Seriously Yes, an articulated Manifesto is now past due. We wait. Maybe Pink Floyd expressed it best back in 1973. "Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day You fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town Waiting for someone or something to show you the way Tired of lying in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain And you are young and life is long, and there is time to kill today And then one day you find ten years have got behind you No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking Racing around to come up behind you again Sun is the same, in a relative way, but you're older Shorter of breath and one day closer to death Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time Plans that either come to naught, or half a page of scribbled lines Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say" π€π€ It was but a moment. The other day,as I was rubbing cream around my crotch area,to combat a fungal skin condition, I realised I was humming the riff part,of Pink Floyd's Interstellar Overdrive. That's a strange tune to be humming ,considering what I was doing i thought. Then again what would be appropriate for such treatment? I hope you don't think of this when listening to Pink Floyd in the future Oldie. That is the end of my story.
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2024 16:08:55 GMT
Do you think putting VAT onto Private School fees is a good idea? Do you think the "British Energy Company" will be able to deliver cheap power? Do you agree with the setting up of another "Border Force"? Labour are targeting a 'Stable Economy'. Personally I would prefer a successful economy. What do you think? Labour have promised not to increase Income Tax, VAT or National Insurance. They have also said they will not borrow any more. Printing money would be inflationary, so where is the money coming from to pay for their policies? Labour have not said how they would return illegal immigrants. They have no plan for that. How would you return illegals? I have no opinion on their policies until I can read them in black and white with the detail attached. At this stage everything is just a soundbite, click bait and deflection from the actual record of the last, disastrous, 14 years.
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2024 16:11:13 GMT
Ok Seriously Yes, an articulated Manifesto is now past due. We wait. Maybe Pink Floyd expressed it best back in 1973. "Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day You fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town Waiting for someone or something to show you the way Tired of lying in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain And you are young and life is long, and there is time to kill today And then one day you find ten years have got behind you No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking Racing around to come up behind you again Sun is the same, in a relative way, but you're older Shorter of breath and one day closer to death Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time Plans that either come to naught, or half a page of scribbled lines Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say" π€π€ It was but a moment. The other day,as I was rubbing cream around my crotch area,to combat a fungal skin condition, I realised I was humming the riff part,of Pink Floyd's Interstellar Overdrive. That's a strange tune to be humming ,considering what I was doing i thought. Then again what would be appropriate for such treatment? I hope you don't think of this when listening to Pink Floyd in the future Oldie. That is the end of my story. FFS πππ Have you no self respect?
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Post by baselswh on Jun 6, 2024 16:13:30 GMT
It was but a moment. The other day,as I was rubbing cream around my crotch area,to combat a fungal skin condition, I realised I was humming the riff part,of Pink Floyd's Interstellar Overdrive. That's a strange tune to be humming ,considering what I was doing i thought. Then again what would be appropriate for such treatment? I hope you don't think of this when listening to Pink Floyd in the future Oldie. That is the end of my story. FFS πππ Have you no self respect? Call it 'revenge' for informing us the medication you had in hospital, after breaking your foot,stopped you from getting an erection.
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2024 16:34:37 GMT
FFS πππ Have you no self respect? Call it 'revenge' for informing us the medication you had in hospital, after breaking your foot,stopped you from getting an erection. You what? ππππ
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Post by baselswh on Jun 6, 2024 16:44:52 GMT
Call it 'revenge' for informing us the medication you had in hospital, after breaking your foot,stopped you from getting an erection. You what? ππππ Did'nt you tell us that? Or maybe I was living in some kind of nightmare. π₯΄
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Post by Nobbygas on Jun 6, 2024 18:12:49 GMT
Do you think putting VAT onto Private School fees is a good idea? Do you think the "British Energy Company" will be able to deliver cheap power? Do you agree with the setting up of another "Border Force"? Labour are targeting a 'Stable Economy'. Personally I would prefer a successful economy. What do you think? Labour have promised not to increase Income Tax, VAT or National Insurance. They have also said they will not borrow any more. Printing money would be inflationary, so where is the money coming from to pay for their policies? Labour have not said how they would return illegal immigrants. They have no plan for that. How would you return illegals? I have no opinion on their policies until I can read them in black and white with the detail attached. At this stage everything is just a soundbite, click bait and deflection from the actual record of the last, disastrous, 14 years. But the things I have listed are already declared among their Six Pledges They are not speculation.
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2024 19:08:08 GMT
I have no opinion on their policies until I can read them in black and white with the detail attached. At this stage everything is just a soundbite, click bait and deflection from the actual record of the last, disastrous, 14 years. But the things I have listed are already declared among their Six Pledges They are not speculation. But there is no detail Nobby. I don't believe any of it until I see it spelt out in detail. Labour have a lot to do to convince me that they have the answers, but the Tory's record convinces me they are the disaster I thought they would be back in 2010. As for Reform, please. It's not enough to be pretending to be "radical". They cannot even answer the questions they ask themselves. But of course, there will be many who will willingly be herded into pens of ideology and chant on about topics they have no detail of. Immigration is a classic example
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2024 19:15:24 GMT
You what? ππππ Did'nt you tell us that? Or maybe I was living in some kind of nightmare. π₯΄ I did break my Tib & Fib a couple of years ago, but I do not know what treatment you think I was given that would impact what you are so crudely suggesting. π€
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Post by baselswh on Jun 6, 2024 19:21:44 GMT
Did'nt you tell us that? Or maybe I was living in some kind of nightmare. π₯΄ I did break my Tib & Fib a couple of years ago, but I do not know what treatment you think I was given that would impact what you are so crudely suggesting. π€ π Well,not that I want to go on about it,but to finish up,I think I remember you telling us about the tablets you were taking ( pain killers? ) and one effect was it had made your 'wotsit wonky'. It does'nt matter anyway. I was just bored,told my true Interstellar Overdrive story,for abit of fun,to amuse myself as much as anything,then your response reminded me of your tale ( imagined or real ) of 'woe'. That's it.
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2024 19:32:26 GMT
I did break my Tib & Fib a couple of years ago, but I do not know what treatment you think I was given that would impact what you are so crudely suggesting. π€ π Well,not that I want to go on about it,but to finish up,I think I remember you telling us about the tablets you were taking ( pain killers? ) and one effect was it had made your 'wotsit wonky'. It does'nt matter anyway. I was just bored,told my true Interstellar Overdrive story,for abit of fun,to amuse myself as much as anything,then your response reminded me of your tale ( imagined or real ) of 'woe'. That's it. "Careful with that Axe Eugene" Check out Careful With That Axe Eugene (1996 Remastered Version) by Pink Floyd on Amazon Music music.amazon.co.uk/albums/B00YY65OC0?trackAsin=B00YY6792S&do=play&ts=1717702304&ref=dm_sh_qKvuVHWN3nSH71IGLHEPeMPX0
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Post by lostinspace on Jun 6, 2024 20:03:32 GMT
Ok Seriously Yes, an articulated Manifesto is now past due. We wait. Maybe Pink Floyd expressed it best back in 1973. "Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day You fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town Waiting for someone or something to show you the way Tired of lying in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain And you are young and life is long, and there is time to kill today And then one day you find ten years have got behind you No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking Racing around to come up behind you again Sun is the same, in a relative way, but you're older Shorter of breath and one day closer to death Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time Plans that either come to naught, or half a page of scribbled lines Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say" π€π€ It was but a moment. The other day,as I was rubbing cream around my crotch area,to combat a fungal skin condition, I realised I was humming the riff part,of Pink Floyd's Interstellar Overdrive. That's a strange tune to be humming ,considering what I was doing i thought. Then again what would be appropriate for such treatment? I hope you don't think of this when listening to Pink Floyd in the future Oldie. That is the end of my story. πΈπΈπππ΅οΈ
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 6, 2024 21:19:07 GMT
Labour manifesto apparently leaked , apparently going to reduce the retirement age of ambulance workers & also looking at all nhs workers to improve recruitment , unions apparently overjoyed. Not sure about retirement age for ambulance workers, but wife ( nhs ) is on old nhs contract & can retire at 55 , think she would vote Labour if she could retire at 45 / 50 . Havenβt the goverment just put up retirement age ? .
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