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Post by knobrot on May 28, 2024 17:22:27 GMT
Biggest win - B***** is gone, including his entourage. Huzzah, huzzah, huzzah! New South Stand adds a lot. Huzzah! New manager talks sense. Huzzah! New owners appear to be an upgrade. Huzzah! More points than last year. Huzzah! Highest league finish in many years. Huzzah! Gas Girls now part of the club again, after winning another trophy - big huzzah! Ground developments look likely to continue. Potential huzzah! Quarters developments might continue. Potential huzzah! Wael seems to be finding some sort of diplomatic role in football. Huzzah for him! Usual thing about losing lots of money. Oh dear, that's much trickier But overall, no, not lost interest at all. Things are on the up! Biggest win - B***** is gone, including his entourage. Huzzah, huzzah! Yup. Can't disagree with that.New South Stand adds a lot. Half hearted hoorah. Now it's finally up, let's see if the extra revenue pays for the high interest rate we are paying on the loan.New manager talks sense. Not sure I can stretch to hoorah. He doesn't talk much. And when he does, it is dull. But he's not a thug, or an embarrassment.New owners appear to be an upgrade. A bar set so low it is used by limbo dancers.More points than last year. Muted hoorah.Highest league finish in many years. Muted hoorah.Gas Girls now part of the club again, after winning another trophy - big huzzah! Very pleased for the Gas Girls, a reason to be cheerful.Ground developments look likely to continue. Potential huzzah! Where are the plans exactly? It is just talk. There is no substance.Quarters developments might continue. Potential huzzah! Where are the plans exactly? It is just talk. There is no substance.Wael seems to be finding some sort of diplomatic role in football. Huzzah for him! As long as that is far away from Rovers, good.
I hope to be proved wrong, and that Rovers go from strength to strength, both on and off the pitch. But I just can't see it. If I'm wrong then I'm sure my comments will get dredged up and that is absolutely fine. Perhaps being 'detached' from Rovers make me see things a little more objectively? I really don't like what I see from afar. Finances, vision of the future, supporter engagement, Mem rebuild. Things just don't add up. I wish Rovers well, I really do. Good luck Gasheads, I have a feeling you're going to need it. Agree with most of the above but never expected or wanted to lose JB. £35 million or thereabouts ‘earmarked’ won’t amount to a tin of beans if the collapse of the home support continues to the 5,000 or so level that will turn up regardless. Ollie was just about to come in and help JB and one can imagine the effect that those two in combination would have had. |
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jun 2, 2024 17:31:02 GMT
Visited Exeter's training ground yesterday.Half Term there has been full of youngsters playing under supervision.Not sure if it brings commercial benefits but their set up is certainly well used by the community.Think we have plans to expand 'The Quarters' but is certainly taking longer than I expected.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 2, 2024 17:40:17 GMT
Chatted to a couple of Gasheads recently, both are normally very keen, been following Rovers for years.
They don't see anything to cheer about and one of them thinks we'll get relegated.
Just holding on to the hope Taylor can come up with something.
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Post by swissgas on Jun 2, 2024 18:00:50 GMT
Visited Exeter's training ground yesterday.Half Term there has been full of youngsters playing under supervision.Not sure if it brings commercial benefits but their set up is certainly well used by the community.Think we have plans to expand 'The Quarters' but is certainly taking longer than I expected. When the new Chief Operating Officer arrives and is charged with implementing the £ 35 million “ vision” to redevelop the training ground and build two new stands at the Mem I think he will have one big question. If £ 12 million of the £ 35 million is coming from selling land at the training ground for housing what do you expect me to do for the next 5 - 10 years because it may take that long to get the land zoned for development ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 18:03:29 GMT
I've nore confidence in MT than I do in the board.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 3, 2024 6:07:59 GMT
The Board,Manager,coaches and scout have certainly succeeded in lowering expectation levels.
I'll give em that.
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Post by oldie on Jun 3, 2024 6:14:06 GMT
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Post by eppinggas on Jun 3, 2024 8:35:12 GMT
The Board,Manager,coaches and scout have certainly succeeded in lowering expectation levels. I'll give em that. To be fair the owners have said they will redevelop the Memorial Stadium (increasing capacity to 16-17k), finish the Quarters to Category 2 status, and deliver Championship football within 3 years. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hussain-alsaeed-reveals-latest-bristol-9239658But not much, if anything, has been said since then to back up these lofty ambitions. So we've had Nick Higgs trying to get UWE built without the numbers ever stacking up, Then 7 1/2 wasted years under Wael and his benevolent foolishness, pretending to build UWE, then pretending to build at the Fruit Market, And now 9 months of confusion and mixed messages from Hussain AlSaeed. Is it any wonder people have lost interest? I am now officially classed as 'missing'. |
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 3, 2024 10:44:03 GMT
I usually come on here to find info, informal chat or to reinforce my standing as a Bristolian despite being away for nearly 60 years. Instead, I’m wondering where the pills are! It sounds all very depressing.
Of course the reality is we are where we’ve historically been most of my life following two seasons of mid-table consolidation which has been as good as anything this century. The difference is that others have overtaken us. (But tbf, others have dropped into the depths of non-league never to be mentioned again. But we seem not to focus on those.)
Epping, your summary is pretty accurate regarding the last few owners. So the enduring emotion is yet again hope that the current lot are able to implement some kind of plan. It’s a shame that it’s not mixed with expectation but fingers crossed! 🤞🏽
UTG!
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Post by knobrot on Jun 3, 2024 11:05:46 GMT
The Board,Manager,coaches and scout have certainly succeeded in lowering expectation levels. I'll give em that. To be fair the owners have said they will redevelop the Memorial Stadium (increasing capacity to 16-17k), finish the Quarters to Category 2 status, and deliver Championship football within 3 years. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hussain-alsaeed-reveals-latest-bristol-9239658But not much, if anything, has been said since then to back up these lofty ambitions. So we've had Nick Higgs trying to get UWE built without the numbers ever stacking up, Then 7 1/2 wasted years under Wael and his benevolent foolishness, pretending to build UWE, then pretending to build at the Fruit Market, And now 9 months of confusion and mixed messages from Hussain AlSaeed. Is it any wonder people have lost interest? I am now officially classed as 'missing'. To be fair to Wael, Higgs sold him a pup. When properly investigated the UWE would have been a disaster with some ‘rooms’ no bigger than cupboards. As far as the Fruit Market was concerned that was planned by some unknown conglomerate that discounted Wael’s inclusion. He would have been well within his rights to sell off assets covering his investment rather than capitalising what were huge losses. With regard to developing the stadium those comments were made on the back of sellouts, now we have next to no chance of reaching those levels again unless Mr Mediocre raises his game and enthuses the fan base to the level that inspired those, I’m not holding my breath. The bottom line will be that the 5,000 or so that would walk over hot coals to support the Rovers will also struggle if we see the sort of s**te we saw for the latter half of last season. The loudly heralded influx of new players as early as possible has turned into the latest mantra of it being a marathon not a sprint. More bulls**t for the rhubarb growers. For some of us the current situation feels like the worst knife edge we’ve seen since the early days at Bath. The difference being back then we had dyed in the wool Rovers men that fought tooth and nail to keep the club afloat sometimes on an hourly basis. We now have people with a business development mentality that in the end will be looking to sell on for a profit or liquidate assets to recover losses. |
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Post by russiangas on Jun 3, 2024 11:44:54 GMT
Didn't the new owners say that plans for the redevelopment of the mem would be ready in "about 2 weeks" about two months ago now? I'm guessing nothing has been submitted to the council, there hasn't been any consultation with the local residents etc etc. so basically it's just hollow promises again. Seems he doesn't say much generally, but when he does it's kinda what he thinks people want to hear but at the same time trying to lower expectations somewhat. I don't honestly think the stadium redevelopment will start next season if ever. We don't know how wealthy the new owners actually are, or how much of their money they are really prepared to invest.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 3, 2024 12:33:52 GMT
To be fair the owners have said they will redevelop the Memorial Stadium (increasing capacity to 16-17k), finish the Quarters to Category 2 status, and deliver Championship football within 3 years. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hussain-alsaeed-reveals-latest-bristol-9239658But not much, if anything, has been said since then to back up these lofty ambitions. So we've had Nick Higgs trying to get UWE built without the numbers ever stacking up, Then 7 1/2 wasted years under Wael and his benevolent foolishness, pretending to build UWE, then pretending to build at the Fruit Market, And now 9 months of confusion and mixed messages from Hussain AlSaeed. Is it any wonder people have lost interest? I am now officially classed as 'missing'. To be fair to Wael, Higgs sold him a pup. When properly investigated the UWE would have been a disaster with some ‘rooms’ no bigger than cupboards. As far as the Fruit Market was concerned that was planned by some unknown conglomerate that discounted Wael’s inclusion. He would have been well within his rights to sell off assets covering his investment rather than capitalising what were huge losses. With regard to developing the stadium those comments were made on the back of sellouts, now we have next to no chance of reaching those levels again unless Mr Mediocre raises his game and enthuses the fan base to the level that inspired those, I’m not holding my breath. The bottom line will be that the 5,000 or so that would walk over hot coals to support the Rovers will also struggle if we see the sort of s**te we saw for the latter half of last season. The loudly heralded influx of new players as early as possible has turned into the latest mantra of it being a marathon not a sprint. More bulls**t for the rhubarb growers. For some of us the current situation feels like the worst knife edge we’ve seen since the early days at Bath. The difference being back then we had dyed in the wool Rovers men that fought tooth and nail to keep the club afloat sometimes on an hourly basis. We now have people with a business development mentality that in the end will be looking to sell on for a profit or liquidate assets to recover losses. I’m not sure the owners ever said anything about early signings. More a feeling coming from the forums I think. And it’s still very early. As for the ‘bs for the rhubarb growers’. At least that’s perhaps better than under WAQ. Then it was more akin to mushroom growing…. Feeding us **** and keeping us in the dark. At least with rhubarb you need plenty of light and sunshine!! Anyway…fingers crossed again,😉 UTG! |
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Post by TaiwanGas on Jun 3, 2024 16:22:08 GMT
I’m all set to be completely underwhelmed (again) in terms of Stadium & Quarters development & new signings, anything that can raise that bar is most welcome but is doubtful. Not being relegated next season would be success in my book.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jun 3, 2024 17:22:02 GMT
Went with Richard Walker Sat to the Devon Cup Final on Sat.He is a major Sponsor of Beer Albion who won 3-1 at the Devon FA HQ at Newton Abbot.Crowd approx 450 but his enthusiasm at the final whistle was infectious.Of -course he played for us in finals at Wembley and the Millennium at Cardiff but the sheer joy he showed was something I have not experienced at the Gas for some time.Birmingham lad and looking forward to seeing us play Birmingham City this season. Extreme left in pic.  |
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 4, 2024 8:00:36 GMT
Went with Richard Walker Sat to the Devon Cup Final on Sat.He is a major Sponsor of Beer Albion who won 3-1 at the Devon FA HQ at Newton Abbot.Crowd approx 450 but his enthusiasm at the final whistle was infectious.Of -course he played for us in finals at Wembley and the Millennium at Cardiff but the sheer joy he showed was something I have not experienced at the Gas for some time.Birmingham lad and looking forward to seeing us play Birmingham City this season. Extreme left in pic. View AttachmentGlad you enjoyed it Colyton. Was it the Devon Senior Cup? I remember well a Devon Intermediate Cup Final played at Axminster Town, must have been ‘70 or ‘71. Don’t know if they still have those intermediate matches!! Thanks for the memories. UTG! |
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jun 4, 2024 8:31:51 GMT
 Devon Premier Cup v Park United who play in the North Devon league. |
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Post by knobrot on Jun 4, 2024 11:36:02 GMT
Didn't the new owners say that plans for the redevelopment of the mem would be ready in "about 2 weeks" about two months ago now? I'm guessing nothing has been submitted to the council, there hasn't been any consultation with the local residents etc etc. so basically it's just hollow promises again. Seems he doesn't say much generally, but when he does it's kinda what he thinks people want to hear but at the same time trying to lower expectations somewhat. I don't honestly think the stadium redevelopment will start next season if ever. We don't know how wealthy the new owners actually are, or how much of their money they are really prepared to invest. Well here’s an example of how clueless they are. One of them had two of his kids sitting on the touchline in front of the west stand for an evening game towards the end of last season. He occasionally came down and supplied them with drinks and other refreshments. Surprisingly not one of the stewards had the sense to advise whichever of the owners that had stuck them there, that was not only utter stupidity and either could have found themselves landing unceremoniously in the west stand if a hairy arsed centre half had ploughed through them but also illegal in terms of trespassing on the pitch. Until proven otherwise I will continue to hold the view that this club is hanging by a thread in the hands of potential asset strippers. We’ll see what happens when the novelty wears off. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 4, 2024 23:46:59 GMT
The Board,Manager,coaches and scout have certainly succeeded in lowering expectation levels. I'll give em that. To be fair the owners have said they will redevelop the Memorial Stadium (increasing capacity to 16-17k), finish the Quarters to Category 2 status, and deliver Championship football within 3 years. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hussain-alsaeed-reveals-latest-bristol-9239658But not much, if anything, has been said since then to back up these lofty ambitions. So we've had Nick Higgs trying to get UWE built without the numbers ever stacking up, Then 7 1/2 wasted years under Wael and his benevolent foolishness, pretending to build UWE, then pretending to build at the Fruit Market, And now 9 months of confusion and mixed messages from Hussain AlSaeed. Is it any wonder people have lost interest? I am now officially classed as 'missing'. I no longer exist. Dusappeard can be found 😂 |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jun 4, 2024 23:48:16 GMT
To be fair the owners have said they will redevelop the Memorial Stadium (increasing capacity to 16-17k), finish the Quarters to Category 2 status, and deliver Championship football within 3 years. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hussain-alsaeed-reveals-latest-bristol-9239658But not much, if anything, has been said since then to back up these lofty ambitions. So we've had Nick Higgs trying to get UWE built without the numbers ever stacking up, Then 7 1/2 wasted years under Wael and his benevolent foolishness, pretending to build UWE, then pretending to build at the Fruit Market, And now 9 months of confusion and mixed messages from Hussain AlSaeed. Is it any wonder people have lost interest? I am now officially classed as 'missing'. To be fair to Wael, Higgs sold him a pup. When properly investigated the UWE would have been a disaster with some ‘rooms’ no bigger than cupboards. As far as the Fruit Market was concerned that was planned by some unknown conglomerate that discounted Wael’s inclusion. He would have been well within his rights to sell off assets covering his investment rather than capitalising what were huge losses. With regard to developing the stadium those comments were made on the back of sellouts, now we have next to no chance of reaching those levels again unless Mr Mediocre raises his game and enthuses the fan base to the level that inspired those, I’m not holding my breath. The bottom line will be that the 5,000 or so that would walk over hot coals to support the Rovers will also struggle if we see the sort of s**te we saw for the latter half of last season. The loudly heralded influx of new players as early as possible has turned into the latest mantra of it being a marathon not a sprint. More bulls**t for the rhubarb growers. For some of us the current situation feels like the worst knife edge we’ve seen since the early days at Bath. The difference being back then we had dyed in the wool Rovers men that fought tooth and nail to keep the club afloat sometimes on an hourly basis. We now have people with a business development mentality that in the end will be looking to sell on for a profit or liquidate assets to recover losses. Not really, given whales background. He should have done his homework |
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Post by eppinggas on Jun 5, 2024 8:43:16 GMT
To be fair to Wael, Higgs sold him a pup. When properly investigated the UWE would have been a disaster with some ‘rooms’ no bigger than cupboards. As far as the Fruit Market was concerned that was planned by some unknown conglomerate that discounted Wael’s inclusion. He would have been well within his rights to sell off assets covering his investment rather than capitalising what were huge losses. With regard to developing the stadium those comments were made on the back of sellouts, now we have next to no chance of reaching those levels again unless Mr Mediocre raises his game and enthuses the fan base to the level that inspired those, I’m not holding my breath. The bottom line will be that the 5,000 or so that would walk over hot coals to support the Rovers will also struggle if we see the sort of s**te we saw for the latter half of last season. The loudly heralded influx of new players as early as possible has turned into the latest mantra of it being a marathon not a sprint. More bulls**t for the rhubarb growers. For some of us the current situation feels like the worst knife edge we’ve seen since the early days at Bath. The difference being back then we had dyed in the wool Rovers men that fought tooth and nail to keep the club afloat sometimes on an hourly basis. We now have people with a business development mentality that in the end will be looking to sell on for a profit or liquidate assets to recover losses. Not really, given whales background. He should have done his homework Wael failed at the very first hurdle in 2016 when he very obviously didn't do due diligence around UWE. Since then he's thrown some money at Rovers which has resulted in a half build Category 3 training facility which is still yet to be completed. And very, very little else. A benevolent fool. I'll never forgive him for hiring the thug, and the thugs mates. The sooner he is gone from Bristol Rovers FC the better. |
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