2024

Eg,referendum on staying in or leaving the ECHR,let the people decide.

Bring back stop & search.
Tougher sentences.

This chat is about Chesh claiming Farage wants an uprising.
Read a few posts up until you get to Chesh making that claim.

There you go,losing it whenever Farage comes up.
Your premature celebration, when you thought Nigel was off to the US made you really quite happy,did'nt it.
As we know,your joy was short lived.
Farage stayed,leading Reform to remarkable results in the general election and himself a seat in the House.
Our country now has a real Opposition.

Good news.

Where is your evidence that 40million are concerned about immigration please?
Farage is clever, using the Trump playbook.
He condemns it yet on the other hand saying he fully 'understands' why people are using violence, in other words actively encouraging them.

And we'll all live happily ever after ?...so theres no need for anyone to worry?

Yes the riots will die down however the resentment that kicked them off will be made worse and nothing will be done to sort it out.

You have mentioned kneecappings on a couple of occasions now but that was paramilitaries 'keeping order' in their areas, the Northern Ireland type violence that I mean will be bombings and possibly shootings.
Once  bombings start  in places like Canary Wharf,mainline train stations, the actual railway system as in France, electricity grid/power stations the govt will have to take notice,i hope none of that happens or that   there will not be bombings between  different communities.
You can be sure that Russia will offer help to all sides to try and make inter community violence worse,to destabilise the country and the population,they might encourage the bombing of arms makers factories here.

I've not seen Farage say he understands why people have reverted to violence let alone that he wants an uprising.

He has stated he is completely against the violence.
He has almost pleaded with Starmer to have serious discussions about immigration.

Apparently 80% of Britons are concerned about immigration. That's about 40,000,000.
Then the Brexit vote too.

Harehill ?

Winston Churchill portrait in Tory-controlled council HQ to hang alongside explanation of his links to 'racism, slavery and colonialism'..by Matthew Cox

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A portrait of Winston Churchill is going to be hung alongside context of his links to 'racism, slavery and colonialism' after an artwork review by Tory-led Hertfordshire County Council.

The depiction of the wartime prime minister - painted in 1967 as a replica of a 1943 print - will remain in view at County Hall, in Hertford, as it awaits a suitable explanation of the ties.

It is not the first case of Churchill has been controversially linked to colonialism, racism and slavery.

The National Trust faced backlash in 2021 when an audit of their properties resulted in information displays at Chartwell, his former home in Kent, noting that the politician served as Colonies Secretary in the 1920s and had opposed independence for India.

Though Churchill is regarded as one of the UK's greatest Prime Ministers ever for his World War II triumph, many views and actions which would now be regarded as racist have drawn criticism, especially since the Black Lives Matter movement became more prominent in 2020.

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Before WWII, in 1937, he said he had no sympathy for Native Americans or black people in Australia, who were enslaved and succeeded by white colonisers.

Churchill said: 'I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.'

He took little action in 1943 when a famine in India, then still part of the British empire, killed 3million. The prime minister of the day even appeared to blame Indians for the food shortage, claiming they 'breed like rabbits'. The famine was sparked by the Japanese occupation of Burma a year earlier, which affected rice supplies.

Earlier in his political career, Churchill advocated the use of chemical weapons against 'uncivilised' Kurds and Afghans. In a 1919 war memo he wrote: 'I cannot understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes.'

William Lamb, second Viscount Melbourne, is a historical figure whose image will remain in storage in Hertfordshire.

His government presided over the First Opium War, which saw British forces protect British trafficking of opium into China against its government's wishes. The conflict saw Hong Kong become a British colony.

Viscount Palmerston, Henry John Temple, led the expansion of the British Empire as Prime Minister from 1859 to 1865 and also served as Foreign Secretary under Viscount Melbourne.

Palmerston's premiership also coincided with the American Civil War, and though he was a vocal opponent of the slave trade, his government took a neutral stance.