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Post by baselswh on May 3, 2024 11:12:55 GMT
Not a bad effort Oldie,but really,quite unconvincing. The numbers are wrong? Statistics are handy if they are relevant. |
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Post by oldie on May 3, 2024 11:20:06 GMT
Statistics are handy if they are relevant. Hard to avoid when they represent the facts. |
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Post by baselswh on May 4, 2024 6:56:01 GMT
Apparently the Irish will have to go through their EU masters red tape to declare the UK a safe country so they can then possibly send back the illegal immigrants that have travelled from the UK.
Thing is,it will also mean the EU will have to declare Rwanda a safe country too.🙂
After all,the UK declaring Rwanda safe was part of their crime.
The Irish appear entangled in their own wicked web of nonsense and hypocrisy.
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2024 7:10:02 GMT
Imagine
When we were members, by terms of the Treaty, we could send migrants who arrive from a EU country without appropriate documentation back to that country. Halcyon days
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Post by Nobbygas on May 4, 2024 8:45:33 GMT
Imagine When we were members, by terms of the Treaty, we could send migrants who arrive from a EU country without appropriate documentation back to that country. Halcyon days Of course, it was all sweetness and light before Brexit wasn't it? No, it was a shambles then and even now the EU members cannot agree amongst themselves regarding a decent immigration policy. Let's drop the pretence that before Brexit everything worked well. Why not try to be honest with your arguments. |
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2024 8:52:33 GMT
Imagine When we were members, by terms of the Treaty, we could send migrants who arrive from a EU country without appropriate documentation back to that country. Halcyon days Of course, it was all sweetness and light before Brexit wasn't it? No, it was a shambles then and even now the EU members cannot agree amongst themselves regarding a decent immigration policy. Let's drop the pretence that before Brexit everything worked well. Why not try to be honest with your arguments. I made no attempt to expand a pro/con EU debate. Just pointing out, in response to a post which clearly exposed no understanding, that as Members of the EU and under the terms of that Treaty, we could send migrants back to the EU country from which they departed. Now we cannot. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 4, 2024 13:13:38 GMT
Of course, it was all sweetness and light before Brexit wasn't it? No, it was a shambles then and even now the EU members cannot agree amongst themselves regarding a decent immigration policy. Let's drop the pretence that before Brexit everything worked well. Why not try to be honest with your arguments. I made no attempt to expand a pro/con EU debate. Just pointing out, in response to a post which clearly exposed no understanding, that as Members of the EU and under the terms of that Treaty, we could send migrants back to the EU country from which they departed. Now we cannot. The reality Oldie is that it just didn't happen did it! As I said, try to be honest with your arguments and don't try to pretend it all worked beautifully before. |
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2024 13:21:07 GMT
I made no attempt to expand a pro/con EU debate. Just pointing out, in response to a post which clearly exposed no understanding, that as Members of the EU and under the terms of that Treaty, we could send migrants back to the EU country from which they departed. Now we cannot. The reality Oldie is that it just didn't happen did it! As I said, try to be honest with your arguments and don't try to pretend it all worked beautifully before. I cannot be bothered to go back over the stats pre and post membership, but if it didn't happen that was down to us. Under the terms of the treaty the country of their departure would have to have taken them back. |
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Post by baselswh on May 4, 2024 15:12:50 GMT
Imagine When we were members, by terms of the Treaty, we could send migrants who arrive from a EU country without appropriate documentation back to that country. Halcyon days I'm talking about Irelands illegal immigration problems today,2024. We left EU ages ago. Your nostalgic dreaming is 'non oportet'. |
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Post by baselswh on May 6, 2024 20:26:08 GMT
Estimated 10,000 Irish people ( from all walks of life ) have been protesting in Dublin,against the illegal immigrants that have invaded their country.
The Irish say they are full.They see the council house waiting lists,real concerns for their culture. Etc.
Many think they eventually got rid of British rule,only to now be ruled by the European Union.
Not happy.
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Post by eppinggas on May 7, 2024 9:11:59 GMT
Estimated 10,000 Irish people ( from all walks of life ) have been protesting in Dublin,against the illegal immigrants that have invaded their country. The Irish say they are full.They see the council house waiting lists,real concerns for their culture. Etc. Many think they eventually got rid of British rule,only to now be ruled by the European Union. Not happy. A good friend of mine is from the west of Ireland. Out in the provinces they are fuming. But rather like London runs England, Dublin runs Ireland. The cosmopolitan elite are totally out of touch with working class people out in the shires. Ireland is on the edge. You won't see that reported on the BBC. Because it does not fit "the agenda". |
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Post by baselswh on May 7, 2024 9:27:30 GMT
Estimated 10,000 Irish people ( from all walks of life ) have been protesting in Dublin,against the illegal immigrants that have invaded their country. The Irish say they are full.They see the council house waiting lists,real concerns for their culture. Etc. Many think they eventually got rid of British rule,only to now be ruled by the European Union. Not happy. A good friend of mine is from the west of Ireland. Out in the provinces they are fuming. But rather like London runs England, Dublin runs Ireland. The cosmopolitan elite are totally out of touch with working class people out in the shires. Ireland is on the edge. You won't see that reported on the BBC. Because it does not fit "the agenda". Yep,the Irish wear their heart on their sleeve and a Molotov cocktail. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 7, 2024 9:40:36 GMT
I am still laughing my rocks off at Ireland and the EU.
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Post by oldie on May 7, 2024 9:42:16 GMT
Estimated 10,000 Irish people ( from all walks of life ) have been protesting in Dublin,against the illegal immigrants that have invaded their country. The Irish say they are full.They see the council house waiting lists,real concerns for their culture. Etc. Many think they eventually got rid of British rule,only to now be ruled by the European Union. Not happy. A good friend of mine is from the west of Ireland. Out in the provinces they are fuming. But rather like London runs England, Dublin runs Ireland. The cosmopolitan elite are totally out of touch with working class people out in the shires. Ireland is on the edge. You won't see that reported on the BBC. Because it does not fit "the agenda". The reality "Justice minister Helen McEntee briefed that up to 91% of those making applications were now coming in "across the border" - the open border on the island between Northern Ireland in the UK, and EU member state, the Republic of Ireland." Another consequence of Brexit. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 7, 2024 9:50:47 GMT
A good friend of mine is from the west of Ireland. Out in the provinces they are fuming. But rather like London runs England, Dublin runs Ireland. The cosmopolitan elite are totally out of touch with working class people out in the shires. Ireland is on the edge. You won't see that reported on the BBC. Because it does not fit "the agenda". The reality "Justice minister Helen McEntee briefed that up to 91% of those making applications were now coming in "across the border" - the open border on the island between Northern Ireland in the UK, and EU member state, the Republic of Ireland." Another consequence of Brexit. Not a consequence of Brexit. More a consequence of the Rwanda policy ! Remind us again, are the EU looking into opening 'offshore' centres in Africa for migrants! I think you'll find the answer is 'YES'! As for Ireland, as a Remainer aren't you happy about what is happening? Surely you are in favour of Open Borders in the EU? |
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Post by oldie on May 7, 2024 9:55:54 GMT
The reality "Justice minister Helen McEntee briefed that up to 91% of those making applications were now coming in "across the border" - the open border on the island between Northern Ireland in the UK, and EU member state, the Republic of Ireland." Another consequence of Brexit. Not a consequence of Brexit. More a consequence of the Rwanda policy ! Remind us again, are the EU looking into opening 'offshore' centres in Africa for migrants! I think you'll find the answer is 'YES'! As for Ireland, as a Remainer aren't you happy about what is happening? Surely you are in favour of Open Borders in the EU? In favour of open borders? Absolutely, but not this pigs breakfast of an arrangement foisted upon NI by the incompetent Brexit loons. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 7, 2024 10:08:38 GMT
Not a consequence of Brexit. More a consequence of the Rwanda policy ! Remind us again, are the EU looking into opening 'offshore' centres in Africa for migrants! I think you'll find the answer is 'YES'! As for Ireland, as a Remainer aren't you happy about what is happening? Surely you are in favour of Open Borders in the EU? In favour of open borders? Absolutely, but not this pigs breakfast of an arrangement foisted upon NI by the incompetent Brexit loons. um....err......it was foisted upon us by the EU. Don't try to re-write history. |
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Post by oldie on May 7, 2024 10:20:09 GMT
In favour of open borders? Absolutely, but not this pigs breakfast of an arrangement foisted upon NI by the incompetent Brexit loons. um....err......it was foisted upon us by the EU. Don't try to re-write history. 😂😂😂 I think you need to look in the mirror on that accusation. Everyone and their dog said that Ireland would be a problem and lo and behold |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 7, 2024 13:03:34 GMT
um....err......it was foisted upon us by the EU. Don't try to re-write history. 😂😂😂 I think you need to look in the mirror on that accusation. Everyone and their dog said that Ireland would be a problem and lo and behold But the current solution was imposed by the EU. |
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