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Post by oldie on Dec 21, 2023 20:32:25 GMT
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Post by Nobbygas on Dec 22, 2023 11:00:01 GMT
The threshold in Germany is 60,000 euro (£51,900). |
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Post by oldie on Dec 22, 2023 11:48:39 GMT
The threshold in Germany is 60,000 euro (£51,900). About as relevant as the threshold in Outer Mongolia. Because the real issue is a government bouncing off walls with a strategic direction of a fractured boomerang |
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Post by Nobbygas on Dec 22, 2023 16:55:00 GMT
The threshold in Germany is 60,000 euro (£51,900). About as relevant as the threshold in Outer Mongolia. Because the real issue is a government bouncing off walls with a strategic direction of a fractured boomerang The real issue is who runs the country. The elected government or the lawyers. |
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Post by oldie on Dec 22, 2023 17:50:31 GMT
About as relevant as the threshold in Outer Mongolia. Because the real issue is a government bouncing off walls with a strategic direction of a fractured boomerang The real issue is who runs the country. The elected government or the lawyers. Well, very precisely. But lawyers can only argue a case predicated upon the law on the Statute Book. Judges can only deliver punishment predicated upon the same. You make my point Nobby, this lot are incapable of developing a coherent argument, subsequent policies and ultimately a law that meets their decision. It's pathetic. 13/14 years and they still cannot do it. |
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Post by ltdgas on Dec 26, 2023 9:39:50 GMT
The real issue is who runs the country. The elected government or the lawyers. Well, very precisely. But lawyers can only argue a case predicated upon the law on the Statute Book. Judges can only deliver punishment predicated upon the same. You make my point Nobby, this lot are incapable of developing a coherent argument, subsequent policies and ultimately a law that meets their decision. It's pathetic. 13/14 years and they still cannot do it. Stammer saying again he’s looking at a Rwanda plan but not Rwanda , said he’s prepared too look at all options , I guess the lefty lawyers will see whatever countries they ( lefties ) pick as safe !! |
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Post by ltdgas on Dec 29, 2023 19:25:50 GMT
Breaking news , tony Blair the pin up boy of the left was going to send migrants too the island of mull 20 yrs ago , hilarious, no suprise this has never been mentioned before but the tories Rwanda plan is evil , inhumane etc !!!!!
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Post by oldie on Dec 30, 2023 1:30:36 GMT
Breaking news , tony Blair the pin up boy of the left was going to send migrants too the island of mull 20 yrs ago , hilarious, no suprise this has never been mentioned before but the tories Rwanda plan is evil , inhumane etc !!!!! Where is Mull? |
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Post by I on Dec 30, 2023 7:57:46 GMT
Breaking news , tony Blair the pin up boy of the left was going to send migrants too the island of mull 20 yrs ago , hilarious, no suprise this has never been mentioned before but the tories Rwanda plan is evil , inhumane etc !!!!! Where is Mull? Inner Hebrides , not like Rwanda , a really suitable place to send thousands / hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers , I’m just suorised the caring left / Labour Party haven’t put this forward over the last 20 yrs as a suitable place to process asylum seekers , though as Blair described it as the nuclear option maybe it’s not such a suprise it’s only just surfaced I can’t see why they all can’t be processed in Bristol / London !!!! , what’s the issue there , I guess there all welcome by the caring / sharing left just not in there back yard Bloody inner Hebrides , couldnt send them much farther from London / Bristol could you !! |
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Post by ltdgas on Dec 30, 2023 8:35:51 GMT
A confidential no10 memo from 2003 laid out the options taking asylum seekers to other jurisdictions eg falklands islands for consideration to restrict free movement and tighten up the border , as well as speed up removal
Those nasty tories !!!!!!!!!
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Post by ltdgas on Dec 30, 2023 9:06:20 GMT
First minister humza yousaf has condemned plans considered by Tony Blair’s former government to hold refugees on a Scottish island and has warned that a goverment under Keir Starmer may look to tweak the plan
The Scottish first minister condemns the plan yet it was considered as acceptable by the Labour Party
Caring my ass
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Post by ltdgas on Dec 30, 2023 9:12:00 GMT
Labour mp getting torn apart on news , you say you care , you don’t , it’s all comming out now , the total hypocrisy of the left , they care , they don’t , these released documents have shown them up for what they are , and they had the gall to shout evil , inhumane at the tories ,
How do the left get a mins sleep !!
Ed Davey has it right , vote Labour & you get tory policies
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Post by oldie on Dec 30, 2023 21:56:37 GMT
Inner Hebrides , not like Rwanda , a really suitable place to send thousands / hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers , I’m just suorised the caring left / Labour Party haven’t put this forward over the last 20 yrs as a suitable place to process asylum seekers , though as Blair described it as the nuclear option maybe it’s not such a suprise it’s only just surfaced I can’t see why they all can’t be processed in Bristol / London !!!! , what’s the issue there , I guess there all welcome by the caring / sharing left just not in there back yard Bloody inner Hebrides , couldnt send them much farther from London / Bristol could you !! So not outside of our legal jurisdiction then? That's the point. |
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Post by ltdgas on Jan 1, 2024 15:08:49 GMT
If I heard presenter on news correct, No migrants have crossed the Chanel due to weather conditions in December
Maybe a wave machine in the Chanel is the answer ?
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Post by ltdgas on Jan 1, 2024 15:29:15 GMT
Inner Hebrides , not like Rwanda , a really suitable place to send thousands / hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers , I’m just suorised the caring left / Labour Party haven’t put this forward over the last 20 yrs as a suitable place to process asylum seekers , though as Blair described it as the nuclear option maybe it’s not such a suprise it’s only just surfaced I can’t see why they all can’t be processed in Bristol / London !!!! , what’s the issue there , I guess there all welcome by the caring / sharing left just not in there back yard Bloody inner Hebrides , couldnt send them much farther from London / Bristol could you !! So not outside of our legal jurisdiction then? That's the point. Is there infastructure / facilities on the Isle of Mull for asylum seekers ? You / left screamed the Bibby barge was not suitable for asylum seekers & that’s in the uk , the barge has toilets / bedrooms / kitchens / sports facilitates , what facilities does the Isle of Mull have ? I’m just going by the councillor from the isle mull said it is Not suitable to house any asylum seekers , the Labour mp said it was totally unsuitable , Blair’s Labour goverment said it was the nuclear option , Labour deemed it ok !! Don’t get me wrong I think it’s great you’ve changed your position from wanting asylum seekers put up in 5 star hotel to a field / any field in the uk , but it does seem a massive climb down from your / lefts previous position What yours thoughts on your party also looking at sending asylum seekers to the Falklands ? I assume it’s within our jurisdiction so you’d deem it suitable ? |
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Post by oldie on Jan 2, 2024 3:38:16 GMT
So not outside of our legal jurisdiction then? That's the point. Is there infastructure / facilities on the Isle of Mull for asylum seekers ? You / left screamed the Bibby barge was not suitable for asylum seekers & that’s in the uk , the barge has toilets / bedrooms / kitchens / sports facilitates , what facilities does the Isle of Mull have ? I’m just going by the councillor from the isle mull said it is Not suitable to house any asylum seekers , the Labour mp said it was totally unsuitable , Blair’s Labour goverment said it was the nuclear option , Labour deemed it ok !! Don’t get me wrong I think it’s great you’ve changed your position from wanting asylum seekers put up in 5 star hotel to a field / any field in the uk , but it does seem a massive climb down from your / lefts previous position What yours thoughts on your party also looking at sending asylum seekers to the Falklands ? I assume it’s within our jurisdiction so you’d deem it suitable ? Your language is laughable and barely intelligible. As far as assessing migrants for eligibility I believe it should be undertaken within our legal system and within our jurisdiction. What some politician said 20 years ago is not relevant, to me, you or anyone. Your rants do you no favours, whoever you are. All I would say is the next time you go off on one, try it in English. |
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Post by ltdgas on Jan 23, 2024 10:26:59 GMT
Apparently cost of housing asylum seekers is now £ 8 million per day , total cost for asylum seekers is 8 billion per year
Mind boggling figures , yet the call from the left is for open borders , let them all come , we will build the houses , the infastructure .
Oh well in a year or so we will see all these doctors surgery’s / hospitals / houses all being built , can’t wait !!
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Post by trymer on Jan 23, 2024 10:33:04 GMT
Apparently cost of housing asylum seekers is now £ 8 million per day , total cost for asylum seekers is 8 billion per year Mind boggling figures , yet the call from the left is for open borders , let them all come , we will build the houses , the infastructure . Oh well in a year or so we will see all these doctors surgery’s / hospitals / houses all being built , can’t wait !! Just have to look at a map and see the size of Africa and Asia copared to UK to know that this country could easily become overwhelmed. All these people talking about building more houses/ new towns should realise that the more you build the more floods there will be. |
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Post by oldie on Jan 23, 2024 10:58:22 GMT
Oh god.
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Post by ltdgas on Jan 23, 2024 13:31:02 GMT
Apparently cost of housing asylum seekers is now £ 8 million per day , total cost for asylum seekers is 8 billion per year Mind boggling figures , yet the call from the left is for open borders , let them all come , we will build the houses , the infastructure . Oh well in a year or so we will see all these doctors surgery’s / hospitals / houses all being built , can’t wait !! Just have to look at a map and see the size of Africa and Asia copared to UK to know that this country could easily become overwhelmed. All these people talking about building more houses/ new towns should realise that the more you build the more floods there will be. I think it’s already overwhelmed trymer , the country is creaking at the seams , you see it everywhere , every road is a car park , as you say building anywhere , go round London & they somehow seem to be able to build 4 storey wooden extensions on top of the 2 storey houses , sheds for housing in back gardens , houses built on flood plains everywhere, Labour are going to build on green belt , Yet the left keep shouting mass immigration is great for the country , let them all come , no idea where it will all end , though I’m a bit worried as in 20 yrs Labour will be booting me out of my 5 bed house , and sticking me in a 1 bed flat / home |
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