Barton gone

You don’t forgive and forget very easily do you?  

The amazing seasons he had, after being converted from a centreback, actually got us to Wembley in the first place; and not that many points from a title.  

More importantly he has been schooled up there as a coach.  And where does he want to take the rest of his managerial career?  

He would surely be tempted.  He would be hungry. And he would be very interesting project for a board to Invest their money in.  

W-S-M born Gareth Taylor is 50 years old and played for BRFC 57 times, scoring 16 goals, he played for 13 teams and played 15 games for Wales scoring 1 goal...

I think the new owners will want someone with a more professional, refined approach. The issues associated with Barton overtook some jog his positive traits - confidence, recruitment, certain benchmarking.

Our new manager will be based on what the club will offer - if we have a budget and a believable plan then I think we’ll be happy with the new appointment.

 the "love him " fans can rant and rave against  "the haters?" ,accuse who they need to at his dismissal to make themselves feel vindicated in their anger.......BUT at the end of the day it's those who dish out the money that match and dispatch ......and as DC would say...."we move on"

I remember watching Gas at Main Rd, and Taylor playing for Man City. That was tier 3.  

I’m virtue signalling?  But I have no virtue left to signal.  What a great set up they have at Man City these days, and are we underestimating the quality of player and coaching at the very top echelons of the ladies game?  I don’t want to come over all Kevin Keegan, but do they play on same size pitch and goal frames as the men?  The goalies all seem small in it, surely you only have to lob it for a great chance of a score? 

Coughlan was the cheap option - he was great for us! I’d have him back.

Garner was an unproven coach.  That might be harsh, he did do lot of coaching at number 2 at top levels. What he did sign up to, to seal his first manager job (the one Cocko walked from) was not to be in control. There was a master plan, and he didn’t really have control of transfers.  Joey Barton was right, we were relegated that season because the players were rubbish and team lacked back bone.  Things didn’t improve till Barton wrestled the control back to the managers desk and inverted that master plan with injection of experience and quality, and leaders on the field. 

Tisdale wasn't suited to firefighting.  Tisdale was just weird.  Exeter fans used to say they had great players but he picked weird teams. He did that here too. Plus that same master plan was still in control. Tisdale found Cocko’s old coffee in the cupboard and smelt it.  

Barton was bright and flashy, but ultimately flattered to deceive.  Barton has done well for Bristol Rovers. We bounced straight back due to the team he built and managed whilst wrestling control at the club. After previous relegations we have floundered in the basement.  If the club didn’t have new owners Barton would not be sacked this week.  Unless of course he said something behind the scenes he shouldn’t have. There is a hugely divisive war going on.

There is no way Barton should be sacked this week for football reasons.  The board could not have said to him they expect promotion this season and we’ll sack you if you drift too far from expectations - that would be ludicrous, off pitch this club is nowhere near ready to sustain championship football, nor on it, where not a single pundit fancies us for top six.  

what is sad about Joey Barton, and yes we can call this right now, no matter his qualities as a player and as a manager, he will always have Joey Barton there with him wherever he goes, outspoken in a bizarre era where you can’t even fatshame Steve Cheating ******** Evans, the Barton history of trouble, excuses, 2nd chances, but also a tad insecure and immature. People like that can never change. Wherever Barton the manager goes, he will never escape the shadow of Joey the controversial celebrity.     

Good.

Awful gobsh1te who’s not even a decent manager: he’s leaving the club in roughly the place it was in when he swaggered in.

He promised the Earth, without a cheque guarantee card, and only delivered a claw back from a downturn that he served up. All accompanied by noise, bluster, offensiveness, repeated rebuilds, slagging-offs, rinse-and-repeat, and here we go again.

I coped with defending my allegiance against decades of under-performance, but have been embarrassed to be associated with the club led by him.

Good riddance. Shame it took as long as it did (and that they fell for and made excuses for it in the first place).


[Hello, btw]

5 wins out of the last 24 league games frankly isn't good enough, by anyone's standards. If Wigan Athletic didn't have a points deduction, we would be 2 points off the relegation zone. When Barton took us over, we were in a similar position in league one and he said how bad we were.

Yes, he took us up.but also got us relegated. He admitted himself he got lucky with the Elliot Anderson signing and we only went up then, because we played a poor inexperienced team in Scunthorpe on the final day.
It's true he has been backed in the transfer market obtaining expensive premier league youngsters and has had better facilities than any previous manager with a quitw superb training ground. Upsetting match refs. Calling out our own players Clarke Thomas twice Belshaw and McCormick was unacceptable as was him receiving a 3 match stadium ban after an incident with a referee. Winding up opponents managers the Cowley brothers the Plymouth and Exeter coaches and Wycombe manager and most recently the Stevenage manager has caused unnecessary controversy. Also don't forget the bad publicity following his high profile court cases with former Barnsley manager and his own wife. Add it all up and the fact over 35 players have come and gone in and we are now exactky the same position in league one as we were when he replaced Paul Tisdale. The league table does not lie.

A balanced post and I respect your views. But (you knew there was going to be a but) - this is the third year which has seen a total 'rebuild'.
Which consists of old players, injury prone players and loanees. Even if Barton manages a year of relative success based on luck & chemistry, a total rebuild would be required the next year. 
As yet, we don't know the real reason the Club have sacked him.
I have a feeling Barton will sling mud and trash talk his way out of the door, tarnishing his reputation further. 
I sincerely doubt another EFL Club would gamble on him. 

Bit like Trump supporters. The more embarrassing Trump becomes, the more his supporters double down on him.
And the longer the blind support goes on, the harder it is to admit you've been backing an idiot all along. I see the same behaviour with Barton sycophants.
Are the staunchly pro-Barton lot a bigger number than the staunchly anti-Barton brigade?
Thankfully it's now a moot point.
Because.
He has gone. 
Time to move on.

For the first time in 975 days. UTG.