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Post by Icegas on Jul 30, 2024 6:38:14 GMT
Honesty I can't remember, I think I possibly did as its my opinion that most of the woke agendas today are being forced upon us from the extreme left. Then don't use "" as that indicates a direct quote from the speaker. To those who read your piece rather than listen it would mislead them. What like you did about him being a Irish citizen..? You copied and pasted something which was infactual and did not look it up to see if it was true, you just pasted it up as fact. |
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Post by baldrick on Jul 30, 2024 6:42:03 GMT
Then don't use "" as that indicates a direct quote from the speaker. To those who read your piece rather than listen it would mislead them. What like you did about him being a Irish citizen..? You copied and pasted something which was infactual and did not look it up to see if it was true, you just pasted it up as fact. Where in my piece did it say he was an Irish citizen? |
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Post by oldie on Jul 30, 2024 6:43:36 GMT
What like you did about him being a Irish citizen..? You copied and pasted something which was infactual and did not look it up to see if it was true, you just pasted it up as fact. Where in my piece did it say he was an Irish citizen? I also did wonder, because I didn't recall that |
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Post by Icegas on Jul 30, 2024 7:00:29 GMT
What like you did about him being a Irish citizen..? You copied and pasted something which was infactual and did not look it up to see if it was true, you just pasted it up as fact. Where in my piece did it say he was an Irish citizen? My apologies, I was quickly replying to both you and Cheshire and got you both confused. You never, my bad.🙏 |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 30, 2024 9:21:52 GMT
I don't get people defending this Irish citizen with an Irish Passport who lives in Tenerife, with numerous convictions including for violence and football thuggery, and has spent approx £2million of donors money on living in comfort and declaring himself bankrupt but being unwilling to show the authorities what has happened to the £2million. Occasionally coming back to the UK to encourage people to take this country back, whilst not living in it. A bit like the MP for Clacton, living in Brussels, occasionally popping over to present on GB News and do his second job of being an MP. The film was proven in a court of law, where evidence was produced, to contains lies and the defendant, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, fined and told, by the court, not to show the film or repeat the lies. Those defending him saying that in spite of the evidence to the contrary and the decision of a court of law, he is 'telling the truth' and it is truth because he says so in the film. It reminds me of a quote attributed to Joseph Goebbels - ' A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth'
It is argued and agreed by many historians that since 2015/16 that the world has moved into the 'post truth era'. Defined as - Post-truth is a term that refers to the widespread documentation of, and concern about, disputes over public truth claims in the 21st century. The term's academic development refers to the theories and research that explain the specific causes historically, and the effects of the phenomenon. Oxford Dictionaries popularly defines it as "relating to and denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief."
While the term was used in phrases like "post-truth politics" academically and publicly before 2016, in 2016 the term was named Word of the Year by Oxford Dictionaries after the term's proliferation in the election of president Trump in the United States and the Brexit referendum in the United Kingdom; Donald Trump has been characterized as engaging in a "war on truth." Oxford Dictionaries further notes that post-truth was often used as an adjective to signal a distinctive kind of politics.
Some scholars argue that post-truth has similarities with past moral, epistemic, and political debates about relativism, postmodernity, and dishonesty in politics. Others insist that post-truth is specifically concerned with 21st century communication technologies and cultural practices.See why do people insist on lying about him. How is he a Irish citizen? Stephen Yaxley Lennon was born in Luton, his father is English and is mother is Irish, he holds two passports Why do people completely lie about this man to fit their narrative. He holds two passports. So he is an Irish Citizen and a British Citizen. When he has been charged previously he has claimed to be an Irish Citizen. He uses his Irish Citizenship to allow him to live in Tenerife without having to adhere to the 180 day rule limit. So yes he IS an Irish citizen, it is not a lie..... |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 9:46:33 GMT
See why do people insist on lying about him. How is he a Irish citizen? Stephen Yaxley Lennon was born in Luton, his father is English and is mother is Irish, he holds two passports Why do people completely lie about this man to fit their narrative. He holds two passports. So he is an Irish Citizen and a British Citizen. When he has been charged previously he has claimed to be an Irish Citizen. He uses his Irish Citizenship to allow him to live in Tenerife without having to adhere to the 180 day rule limit. So yes he IS an Irish citizen, it is not a lie..... and there is nothing wrong with that. I have many friends who hold British and German passports. My son has a British and a German passport. It is perfectly normal. Just what is your point? |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 30, 2024 10:22:02 GMT
He holds two passports. So he is an Irish Citizen and a British Citizen. When he has been charged previously he has claimed to be an Irish Citizen. He uses his Irish Citizenship to allow him to live in Tenerife without having to adhere to the 180 day rule limit. So yes he IS an Irish citizen, it is not a lie..... and there is nothing wrong with that. I have many friends who hold British and German passports. My son has a British and a German passport. It is perfectly normal. Just what is your point? No big deal, I wasn't knocking people with two passports as your posts seems to indicate you think I was. I was responding to Icegas who said it was a lie that Yaxley-Lennon was an Irish Citizen. He is both Irish and British but seems to manipulate the use of one or the other when it suits him. |
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Post by Icegas on Jul 30, 2024 10:28:24 GMT
See why do people insist on lying about him. How is he a Irish citizen? Stephen Yaxley Lennon was born in Luton, his father is English and is mother is Irish, he holds two passports Why do people completely lie about this man to fit their narrative. He holds two passports. So he is an Irish Citizen and a British Citizen. When he has been charged previously he has claimed to be an Irish Citizen. He uses his Irish Citizenship to allow him to live in Tenerife without having to adhere to the 180 day rule limit. So yes he IS an Irish citizen, it is not a lie..... Yes, but the post you wrote, or copy and posted suggested that his was Irish, and not British. A a play on words , intentional or not are very important when discussing an individual like Tommy Robinson, as some people jump on them and twist them in regards to him, like calling him "far right" when he is not. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 10:40:32 GMT
and there is nothing wrong with that. I have many friends who hold British and German passports. My son has a British and a German passport. It is perfectly normal. Just what is your point? No big deal, I wasn't knocking people with two passports as your posts seems to indicate you think I was. I was responding to Icegas who said it was a lie that Yaxley-Lennon was an Irish Citizen. He is both Irish and British but seems to manipulate the use of one or the other when it suits him. I wish sometimes I had a German passport, and then I wouldn't have to go through the ridiculous situation at passport control over the stamping of the passport! I hold a German Resident's permit. In the past, I just showed that with my UK Passport and the passport was not stamped, both Entry and Exiting the EU. Then the rules changed. Then the EU decided that it would have to be stamped on Exit if my family were not with me! So, I had a number of Exit stamps, but no Entry stamps. This causes problems at Passport Control as they wonder why I only have Exit stamps in my passport. Most times I drive and use the Channel Tunnel, but sometimes I fly. However, if I fly Frankfurt-Zurich-Bristol then the passport was never stamped! Last week I was held up again as the French passport control wanted to know why I didn't have an Entry stamp. For the first time I didn't bother showing my Residence Permit as I knew it made no difference. However, last week the French passport control asked me if I had a Residence Permit, and the French guy explained to me that if I showed it then my passport doesn't need to be stamped on EU Exit........and this after having my passport stamped for the last eight months on Exit, even with a Residence Permit! It really is quite funny as they just don't seem to know what they are doing and makes the whole stamping of the passport a pointless exercise. |
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Post by baldrick on Jul 30, 2024 10:44:47 GMT
No big deal, I wasn't knocking people with two passports as your posts seems to indicate you think I was. I was responding to Icegas who said it was a lie that Yaxley-Lennon was an Irish Citizen. He is both Irish and British but seems to manipulate the use of one or the other when it suits him. I wish sometimes I had a German passport, and then I wouldn't have to go through the ridiculous situation at passport control over the stamping of the passport! I hold a German Resident's permit. In the past, I just showed that with my UK Passport and the passport was not stamped, both Entry and Exiting the EU. Then the rules changed. Then the EU decided that it would have to be stamped on Exit if my family were not with me! So, I had a number of Exit stamps, but no Entry stamps. This causes problems at Passport Control as they wonder why I only have Exit stamps in my passport. Most times I drive and use the Channel Tunnel, but sometimes I fly. However, if I fly Frankfurt-Zurich-Bristol then the passport was never stamped! Last week I was held up again as the French passport control wanted to know why I didn't have an Entry stamp. For the first time I didn't bother showing my Residence Permit as I knew it made no difference. However, last week the French passport control asked me if I had a Residence Permit, and the French guy explained to me that if I showed it then my passport doesn't need to be stamped on EU Exit........and this after having my passport stamped for the last eight months on Exit, even with a Residence Permit! It really is quite funny as they just don't seem to know what they are doing and makes the whole stamping of the passport a pointless exercise. We are out of the EU, that is what happens now. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 30, 2024 10:57:40 GMT
I wish sometimes I had a German passport, and then I wouldn't have to go through the ridiculous situation at passport control over the stamping of the passport! I hold a German Resident's permit. In the past, I just showed that with my UK Passport and the passport was not stamped, both Entry and Exiting the EU. Then the rules changed. Then the EU decided that it would have to be stamped on Exit if my family were not with me! So, I had a number of Exit stamps, but no Entry stamps. This causes problems at Passport Control as they wonder why I only have Exit stamps in my passport. Most times I drive and use the Channel Tunnel, but sometimes I fly. However, if I fly Frankfurt-Zurich-Bristol then the passport was never stamped! Last week I was held up again as the French passport control wanted to know why I didn't have an Entry stamp. For the first time I didn't bother showing my Residence Permit as I knew it made no difference. However, last week the French passport control asked me if I had a Residence Permit, and the French guy explained to me that if I showed it then my passport doesn't need to be stamped on EU Exit........and this after having my passport stamped for the last eight months on Exit, even with a Residence Permit! It really is quite funny as they just don't seem to know what they are doing and makes the whole stamping of the passport a pointless exercise. We are out of the EU, that is what happens now. Yes, I know. I have no problems with stamping the passport, but it seems as though different EU passport control stations have different ideas, and even individual EU passport control officers cannot agree on the policy. The point I am making is that the whole thing is a joke and only causes delays at Passport Control. Also, if this is an example of the way the EU operates, then it only strengthens the view that we are better off out of the EU. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 30, 2024 12:38:06 GMT
Anjem Choudary gets a life sentence....out in 5 years no doubt.
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Post by trymer on Jul 30, 2024 12:40:08 GMT
Anyone seen the mass brawl at a beauty spot in the Peak District video ? hilarious....wtf is wrong with some of these people ?
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 12:42:00 GMT
Anjem Choudary gets a life sentence....out in 5 years no doubt. Supposed to serve 28 years before he can appeal. 🍾 |
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Post by trymer on Jul 30, 2024 12:45:13 GMT
Anjem Choudary gets a life sentence....out in 5 years no doubt. Supposed to serve 28 years before he can appeal. 🍾 Hopefully do all 28 as he has worked hard to get the sentence, but let the dust die down and appeal against the severity of the sentence and it might be cut. |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 12:46:27 GMT
Anyone seen the mass brawl at a beauty spot in the Peak District video ? hilarious....wtf is wrong with some of these people ? I'm sad these b'stards are in my country. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 30, 2024 12:48:44 GMT
Anyone seen the mass brawl at a beauty spot in the Peak District video ? hilarious....wtf is wrong with some of these people ? I'm sad these b'stards are in my country. Did you watch the video ? I like walking in the Brecon Beacons and on the Mendips but I feel like I might have to take a heavy walking stick with me from now on,mind you the dogs would have a field day. |
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Post by baselswh on Jul 30, 2024 12:54:30 GMT
I'm sad these b'stards are in my country. Did you watch the video ? I like walking in the Brecon Beacons and on the Mendips but I feel like I might have to take a heavy walking stick with me from now on,mind you the dogs would have a field day. Yeh I watched video Trymer. Loads of Muslims hate dogs,another reason they are unsuited to live in our civilisation. I wish those that don't welcome a reformation within their religion would leave the UK. Chances are they may one day,get 'asked' to leave in the name of our civilisation. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 30, 2024 13:43:51 GMT
Anjem Choudary gets a life sentence....out in 5 years no doubt. Shouldn't jump to conclusions Trymer - The Islamist preacher Anjem Choudary has been jailed for life with a minimum term of 28 years after being found guilty of running a banned terrorist organisation. Choudary, who counter-terrorism police say has had a “radicalising impact” on terrorists, was convicted last week of taking a “caretaker role” in directing al-Muhajiroun (ALM) while its founder was in jail. He was also found guilty of encouraging support for it through online lectures to the Islamic Thinkers Society (ITS), based in New York City, which prosecutors said was another name for ALM. The trial followed an investigation by the Metropolitan police, the New York police department (NYPD) and the Royal Canadian mounted police. Choudary will spend more than 26 years behind bars in total because of the time he has already spent in custody, meaning he will not be eligible for release before the age of 85, the judge said. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/30/anjem-choudary-gets-life-sentence-for-directing-terrorist-organisation |
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Post by baldrick on Jul 30, 2024 17:37:01 GMT
Sorry guys, more incoming. "Partners and children separated from their families during the evacuation of Afghanistan can now apply to join them in the UK, under plans announced by the government. It comes three years since the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan, which led to a military operation to evacuate British nationals and Afghans, known as Operation Pitting. A number of families became separated due to the speed and chaotic circumstances surrounding the evacuation. On Tuesday, the government announced the Afghan Citizens Resettlement Scheme (ACRS) separated families route had opened for applications for the next three months. The route is open to the partners and children of people who escaped from Afghanistan under legal routes previously set up by the government. Children who were evacuated without their parents can also apply for them and any siblings who were under the age of 18 at the time of the evacuation to come to the UK. The Home office said additional family embers may be considered in exceptional circumstances. The Refugee Council charity said the development was "hugely welcome" and would be "life-changing" for children and parents who had been separated for such a long period." www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce987p13rq1o |
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