The Immigration Question

So I think I'm done with my research now, have spent many hours reading various sources and trawled my way through the Court Judgment. Should anyone need to research the case themselves, I'd recommend watching the film first, then the Court Judgment as it puts into context the dispute and is probably the most impartial way of going about things.

One thing I feel I should point out is that towards the end of the film I found it became a bit muddled, or my concentration waned. Therefore the bits about the lawyers employed by the refugee, and then the bits about the red haired YouTube bloke were a bit lost on me. I will rewatch these but don't think the case in terms of the bullying and Robinson's involvement have a huge bearing on it.

My belief is that watching the film in isolation (without other sources such as the court judgment) might lead some to assume it is the definitive version of events (spoiler alert, it isn't). It's fair to say most of the interviewees had no knowledge they were being filmed, and the editing and leading questions asked more or less discounted their use in Court (anecdotal evidence, hearsay, and the lack of reliable witnesses cross examined).

The pupils that were brought into Court by Robinson offered different versions of events than those presented in the film. The evidence they gave also contradicted what each other testified to in Court. They were unreliable witnesses and in some cases proven to be lying.

I will say here that I feel for these children, and for the town involved in the sorry affair. Robinson visited these children at their homes, often unannounced, for the purpose of his 'case'. The bully from the viral video had been referred to Prevent (countering terrorist ideology force) by the school for his interest in the EDL, and following the grief he received for the incident, put into a safe house by Tommy (bully informed the court of this, although initially stated he'd 'lived' with him).

I think it's important to remember that this case was brought about by Robinson's accusations towards the refugee, based on testimonies and recordings he'd used to claim that the refugee had attacked female pupils at school and that the bully had justification to assault the refugee. The court could find no evidence to support any of these claims, the witnesses (all pupils) did not appear to tell the truth in court.

At this point it is worth noting that, in more recent times, Robinson had 'interviewed' friends of a girl who had made false allegations of being raped and trafficked by local Asian men in Barrow (there was a documentary on telly recently which is quite extraordinary). The girl was found guilty on nine counts of perverting the course of justice, and sentenced to eight and a half years in prison in 2022.

Anyway. The Court Judgment I've been referring to only addresses the libel claim from the refugee to Robinson. The film expands on its 'evidence' by 'interviewing' a sacked headmaster, the wife of another teacher and another gentleman who may have been a teacher/worked at the school. On their doorsteps. None of these interviewed were aware they were being filmed. Since none of these appeared in court for Robinson, I can't examine the footage in the same manner. Robinson strongly argues that the teachers were paid off by the council to not talk, and the gentleman I referred to seemed to be saying he'd received £18,000 to keep quiet. This gentleman also repeated claims that were refuted in the court judgment relating to the behaviour of the refugee. I'm being as respectful as possible in saying that he didn't sound convincing in the slightest.
I suppose it's possible they are legally bound from talking about the affair, the headmaster is also clearly bitter about the subsequent Ofsted inspection and his dismissal. I suppose he may have been paid off when the school was closed.

That's pretty much it with regards to the libel case and the banned film, or as much as I think I can comment about in a (slightly) informed way.

The film, or 'documentary', in which Robinson refers to himself as a 'journalist' is, to my mind, more or less a complete fabrication of events in an attempt to discredit the refugee. It is also an attempt to accuse this boy of attacking girls by spitting, punching, verbally abusing and striking from behind with a hockey stick. None of these claims were backed up by ANY medical documents, school reports or police reports and were consistently contradicted by the pupils themselves.

Like I said earlier, the court judgment needs to be read if you're watching the film for balance, even if you don't trust the process. There's other sources and articles online of course, and I've read around those too, but if you want to examine whether Robinson's claims had any validity I'd say the source and the court judgment are probably enough to form a fairly solid stance.

Robinson's initial point in the film is how the viral video of the bullying had been hijacked and weaponised by all and sundry. That claim seems more than audacious to me and I'd go as far as to say outrageous.

Like I've said before, the bloke is clearly not stupid, if only he'd use his influence and resources for something that isn't blatant lies and promoting hate and division

Just seen a couple of women ( Rumanians I think ) caught shop lifting at Eastville Tesco.

The shopping was taken from them and they were thrown out by a security bloke.Willing to leave, it's better than the Police getting involved.

Both women ( caught separately ) had some brass neck,at first pretending to be innocent,shocked at the very suggestion they were thieves.

Peoples attitude towards these two incidents was interesting. Not an ounce of sympathy towards the thieves.An Indian woman told me how very unimpressed she was by them and if that's how they are,with no respect for the UK,they should go back to where they come from

Hallelujah sister!🤝👏🇬🇧

No they were'nt the long dress wearers Ice,not like the professional beggars. They were quite well dressed actually.

One accompanied by one child one by two children.The children did'nt appear upset bless them ,I would wager this was'nt the first time.

Sorry to steal a quote from Oldie but..

"Oh,Jesus...." 🙄😴🧐

I remember a few years ago seeing the video of a machete attack inside the Tesco store at Eastville,I think that the 2 attackers got 10 years for nearly severing some blokes arm.
In these big stores theres a hell of a lot of theft,as you say the thieves are brazen,I saw a smackhead  put a leg of lamb in her rucksack,it was sticking out and in plain sight and she just walked out, that was Asda Bedminster.

Oldie started this thread,so I very much doubt that this was the intent of him opening it.

news.sky.com/story/four-jailed-after-forging-more-than-2000-marriage-documents-for-nigerian-nationals-13204332

I wonder if those 2000 people will be deported? But sadly, here is another example of how bad our immigration is currently.

I've met a lot of Nigerians due to where I work over the past two years,as alot of people come and go.

Most of them have been decent people, and I've got on with them. However,I would say the number of Nigerians that I have come across in this time must be well over 50 people,and I would 99% of them have said that they have arrived in the UK within the last 6 weeks of when I met them.I think the longest someone told me that they had been here was 6 months.One told me he can here on a boat.

Also alot of them have told me that they are here only due to money,as a couple of years of working here and it will make them near millionaires over in Nigeria.

But I'm not sure if this true or not...does anyone know?

Average wage in Nigeria is around $250 per month, if they save enough (taking into account higher living costs here) then they would be pretty well off by local standards.

Glad you got on well with them.

There are a lot of job vacancies at the moment,lots of Polish etc left UK and loads of  people in their 50s and 60s left work during and since the pandemic.