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Post by trymer on May 1, 2024 15:51:48 GMT
You'll have to wait for the Labour Government to get in... then things will get worse. I fear much worse. Pro-Hamas sympathisers have been emboldened by the lack of Police action on their hate marches. And if you rock up in London celebrating the Oct 7th murders, with badges of the drone attacks that carried out these heinous crimes... you get... nothing. Try turning up in central London wearing a an extreme right wing symbol, let's say a swastika. The Police would have you banged up pronto, and damn right to. But hey - if it's an extreme left wing symbol - no problema. 2 tier Policing in London. Rest of the UK - it's coming to you soon. A couple of weeks ago some pro-Palistinian protesters were walking through London with a swastika. A woman complained to a Police Officer who was stood watching, and she was told that she "had to understand the context". This was widely reported with the video shown all most news channels. God knows what sort of "context" where a serving Police Officer stands by and does nothing. Ridiculous political correctness b0ll0x is ruining things for the law abiding. |
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Post by trymer on May 1, 2024 15:52:47 GMT
Sadly I think that you're right,this Tory lot are useless but Labour will outdo the by being even more useless. Even more useless than Humza Useless! Not looking quite so cocky in recent pictures is he ?.....smarmy b******. |
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Post by baselswh on May 1, 2024 15:56:32 GMT
Even more useless than Humza Useless! Not looking quite so cocky in recent pictures is he ?.....smarmy b******. Out of his depth. |
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Post by bluetornados on May 1, 2024 16:31:31 GMT
Why did Humza Yousaf resign.?ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/5/1/49b508ef-68de-4ecc-a8f6-ee6257054cb7.jpgIn short, the relationship with the Scottish Greens and the termination "with immediate effect" of the Bute House agreement. In mid-April, the Scottish government announced they were ditching their flagship target of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 75% by 2030. Following the move, the Scottish Greens announced that their members would vote on whether to remain in power with the SNP. On 20th April, before a pro-independence march in Glasgow, Humza Yousaf said he valued the Bute House agreement and did not expect it to be scrapped. Days later on 25th April, the co-leaders of the Scottish Greens, Lorna Slater and Patrick Harvie, were called to the first minister's official residence and told the agreement would terminate "with immediate effect". This left the first minister leading a minority government. During a heated first minister's questions later that day, Yousaf was labelled as a "lame duck first minister" and a vote of no confidence in him was moved by Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross. Following this, Yousaf said he would not resign as first minister and would "absolutely" lead the SNP into the upcoming general election and 2026 Holyrood election. On Monday, after a weekend of reflection, the first minister announced he would stand down as party leader as he "clearly underestimated" the hurt caused by ending the power-sharing agreement with the Scottish Greens. ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/5/1/61f0a9a8-f6da-475e-bbe5-da4233d1f8e1.jpgThe two front-runners for the SNP leadership had an "informal" meeting on Tuesday. Responding to media reports, a spokesperson for Kate Forbes has confirmed to the BBC that she met John Swinney. They said: "We can confirm Kate spoke to John yesterday. It was a purely informal meeting. "Kate is continuing to weigh up whether to run and is grateful for the growing outpouring of support." News of the meeting will fuel speculation of a deal being struck to avoid a potentially damaging leadership contest for the party. Tories brand Swinney and Forbes meeting a 'shady stitch-up'..The Scottish Conservatives say talks between John Swinney and Kate Forbes show the SNP is "desperate" to avoid another leadership contest. Party leader Douglas Ross labelled the meeting on Tuesday as a "shady stitch-up". Ross said: “Even if they do agree a deal, it will be like putting a sticking plaster on a gaping wound when it comes to the bitter splits within the SNP." The 2023 SNP leadership contest was bitterly fought, with debates between candidates featuring personal attacks.
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Post by eppinggas on May 1, 2024 17:21:05 GMT
You'll have to wait for the Labour Government to get in... then things will get worse. I fear much worse. Pro-Hamas sympathisers have been emboldened by the lack of Police action on their hate marches. And if you rock up in London celebrating the Oct 7th murders, with badges of the drone attacks that carried out these heinous crimes... you get... nothing. Try turning up in central London wearing a an extreme right wing symbol, let's say a swastika. The Police would have you banged up pronto, and damn right to. But hey - if it's an extreme left wing symbol - no problema. 2 tier Policing in London. Rest of the UK - it's coming to you soon. A couple of weeks ago some pro-Palistinian protesters were walking through London with a swastika. A woman complained to a Police Officer who was stood watching, and she was told that she "had to understand the context". This was widely reported with the video shown all most news channels. God knows what sort of "context" where a serving Police Officer stands by and does nothing. Disgusting. To be fair Sir Mark Rowley apologised for this on LBC this morning with Nick Ferrari. However when Nick pressed him on the genocidal chant "from the river to the sea" ie. "we want to murder every Jew in Israel"... Sir Mark turned into slimy twisty turny piece of crap. Apparently it's not a criminal offence to chant that. Just off down Mile End to chant "All Muslims must die" and see how that goes. Shouldn't have a problem with the Met should I? I mean if I got into trouble with the Police it would mean one rule for pro-Hamas demonstrators, and a different one applied to a white middle class male. Surely not? |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 1, 2024 23:23:42 GMT
A couple of weeks ago some pro-Palistinian protesters were walking through London with a swastika. A woman complained to a Police Officer who was stood watching, and she was told that she "had to understand the context". This was widely reported with the video shown all most news channels. God knows what sort of "context" where a serving Police Officer stands by and does nothing. Disgusting. To be fair Sir Mark Rowley apologised for this on LBC this morning with Nick Ferrari. However when Nick pressed him on the genocidal chant "from the river to the sea" ie. "we want to murder every Jew in Israel"... Sir Mark turned into slimy twisty turny piece of crap. Apparently it's not a criminal offence to chant that. Just off down Mile End to chant "All Muslims must die" and see how that goes. Shouldn't have a problem with the Met should I? I mean if I got into trouble with the Police it would mean one rule for pro-Hamas demonstrators, and a different one applied to a white middle class male. Surely not? When it comes to "from the river to the sea" and "murder every Jew" or even marching with a swastika you have to understand the context. Apparently. I can quite clearly see that you need re-education. In the meantime, how many protesters are there outside the Iranian embassy complaining about Iran supplying weapons to the Palestinians? How many Muslims are marching with "not in my name" banners regarding the Palestinians? I'll give you a clue, you won't need all your fingers to count them. |
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Post by eppinggas on May 2, 2024 6:32:00 GMT
Disgusting. To be fair Sir Mark Rowley apologised for this on LBC this morning with Nick Ferrari. However when Nick pressed him on the genocidal chant "from the river to the sea" ie. "we want to murder every Jew in Israel"... Sir Mark turned into slimy twisty turny piece of crap. Apparently it's not a criminal offence to chant that. Just off down Mile End to chant "All Muslims must die" and see how that goes. Shouldn't have a problem with the Met should I? I mean if I got into trouble with the Police it would mean one rule for pro-Hamas demonstrators, and a different one applied to a white middle class male. Surely not? When it comes to "from the river to the sea" and "murder every Jew" or even marching with a swastika you have to understand the context. Apparently. I can quite clearly see that you need re-education. In the meantime, how many protesters are there outside the Iranian embassy complaining about Iran supplying weapons to the Palestinians? How many Muslims are marching with "not in my name" banners regarding the Palestinians? I'll give you a clue, you won't need all your fingers to count them. I haven't got any fingers left. My placard "All Muslims must die" didn't go down too well. Under sharia law they cut my hands off. |
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Post by baselswh on May 2, 2024 6:51:55 GMT
When it comes to "from the river to the sea" and "murder every Jew" or even marching with a swastika you have to understand the context. Apparently. I can quite clearly see that you need re-education. In the meantime, how many protesters are there outside the Iranian embassy complaining about Iran supplying weapons to the Palestinians? How many Muslims are marching with "not in my name" banners regarding the Palestinians? I'll give you a clue, you won't need all your fingers to count them. I haven't got any fingers left. My placard "All Muslims must die" didn't go down too well. Under sharia law they cut my hands off. This reminds me,I once saw a Christian street preacher kick off,loud and proud on the Stapleton Road,near the Easton Way crossroads,by a bus stop.Near that pub and bakers,the bakers shop use to have the Quran spoken to music played through speakers.I asked what the music was,this how I know.Hav'nt beenback since Muslims soon noticed him ( hard not to ),coming out of shops to look. I enjoyed it,I thought fair play to you mate. Did'nt last long,his bus came and off he safely went. |
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Post by oldie on May 2, 2024 7:00:44 GMT
Blimey
We have Sharia Law imposed in the UK?
I had better be careful when I am out and about today 😂
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Post by trymer on May 2, 2024 7:43:59 GMT
Disgusting. To be fair Sir Mark Rowley apologised for this on LBC this morning with Nick Ferrari. However when Nick pressed him on the genocidal chant "from the river to the sea" ie. "we want to murder every Jew in Israel"... Sir Mark turned into slimy twisty turny piece of crap. Apparently it's not a criminal offence to chant that. Just off down Mile End to chant "All Muslims must die" and see how that goes. Shouldn't have a problem with the Met should I? I mean if I got into trouble with the Police it would mean one rule for pro-Hamas demonstrators, and a different one applied to a white middle class male. Surely not? When it comes to "from the river to the sea" and "murder every Jew" or even marching with a swastika you have to understand the context. Apparently. I can quite clearly see that you need re-education. In the meantime, how many protesters are there outside the Iranian embassy complaining about Iran supplying weapons to the Palestinians? How many Muslims are marching with "not in my name" banners regarding the Palestinians? I'll give you a clue, you won't need all your fingers to count them. We live in a multicultural society in Britain,problems can happen because not all the different cultures/religions seem to like each other,maybe a review of the present laws is needed and new laws need to be passed, no demonstrations that might cause a breakdown in community cohesion, no foreign flags or symbols to be displayed in public, no hate slogans etc etc. |
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Post by eppinggas on May 2, 2024 10:22:02 GMT
When it comes to "from the river to the sea" and "murder every Jew" or even marching with a swastika you have to understand the context. Apparently. I can quite clearly see that you need re-education. In the meantime, how many protesters are there outside the Iranian embassy complaining about Iran supplying weapons to the Palestinians? How many Muslims are marching with "not in my name" banners regarding the Palestinians? I'll give you a clue, you won't need all your fingers to count them. We live in a multicultural society in Britain,problems can happen because not all the different cultures/religions seem to like each other,maybe a review of the present laws is needed and new laws need to be passed, no demonstrations that might cause a breakdown in community cohesion, no foreign flags or symbols to be displayed in public, no hate slogans etc etc. This is the problem Governments/Politicians/The Police and Admins of obscure League 1 Football Club Forums both have. Where does one draw the line between allowing freedom of speech and giving someone a platform for people to cause offence. It is a very very blurry line? Mods here do their best. Perhaps a better job than Sunak, Khan and Sir Mark Rowley. Perhaps not. |
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Post by oldie on May 2, 2024 10:24:47 GMT
We live in a multicultural society in Britain,problems can happen because not all the different cultures/religions seem to like each other,maybe a review of the present laws is needed and new laws need to be passed, no demonstrations that might cause a breakdown in community cohesion, no foreign flags or symbols to be displayed in public, no hate slogans etc etc. This is the problem Governments/Politicians/The Police and Admins of obscure League 1 Football Club Forums both have. Where does one draw the line between allowing freedom of speech and giving someone a platform for people to cause offence. It is a very very blurry line? Mods here do their best. Perhaps a better job than Sunak, Khan and Sir Mark Rowley. Perhaps not. A genuine topic worthy of discussion. |
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Post by baselswh on May 2, 2024 11:51:10 GMT
This is the problem Governments/Politicians/The Police and Admins of obscure League 1 Football Club Forums both have. Where does one draw the line between allowing freedom of speech and giving someone a platform for people to cause offence. It is a very very blurry line? Mods here do their best. Perhaps a better job than Sunak, Khan and Sir Mark Rowley. Perhaps not. A genuine topic worthy of discussion. On going abroad I would say most Britons try to respect the countrys culture and laws."When in Rome" etc. Immigrants coming to the UK,you might expect,are held to the same standard."When in Rome" etc. Thing is,if immigrants to our country do not follow the "when in Rome" rule and a Briton quite rightly points this out,the Briton will be slated for this.Labelled a racist etc.Possibly life changingly bad. Double standards.Right on globalist bullying. It's clearly wrong. |
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Post by oldie on May 2, 2024 12:02:36 GMT
A genuine topic worthy of discussion. On going abroad I would say most Britons try to respect the countrys culture and laws."When in Rome" etc. Immigrants coming to the UK,you might expect,are held to the same standard."When in Rome" etc. Thing is,if immigrants to our country do not follow the "when in Rome" rule and a Briton quite rightly points this out,the Briton will be slated for this.Labelled a racist etc.Possibly life changingy bad. Double standards.Right on globalist bullying. It's clearly wrong. My understanding of Epping's post was a broader point on free speech. Is it acceptable to cause offence in the name of free speech? |
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Post by baselswh on May 2, 2024 12:06:12 GMT
On going abroad I would say most Britons try to respect the countrys culture and laws."When in Rome" etc. Immigrants coming to the UK,you might expect,are held to the same standard."When in Rome" etc. Thing is,if immigrants to our country do not follow the "when in Rome" rule and a Briton quite rightly points this out,the Briton will be slated for this.Labelled a racist etc.Possibly life changingy bad. Double standards.Right on globalist bullying. It's clearly wrong. My understanding of Epping's post was a broader point on free speech. Is it acceptable to cause offence in the name of free speech? I would say yes.Everytime we 'open our mouths' to make our point of view heard,we risk causing offence. Also facts are facts and trump someones feelings. Deliberately being offensive however, might get complicated. |
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Post by oldie on May 2, 2024 12:37:18 GMT
My understanding of Epping's post was a broader point on free speech. Is it acceptable to cause offence in the name of free speech? I would say yes.Everytime we 'open our mouths' to make our point of view heard,we risk causing offence. Also facts are facts and trump someones feelings. Deliberately being offensive however, might get complicated. Actually I agree. Being "deliberate" without context I would agree also. For example you and I disagree and with in the context of any topic you might call me "Typical woke, lefties HAMAS Supporting anti Semite" That would be deeply offensive if we were not debating events in the Middle East" but we would be and that's your opinion which in my world you are free to express. Wrong, but that's for me to defend with the same freedom of expression granted to you. |
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Post by trymer on May 2, 2024 14:25:53 GMT
We live in a multicultural society in Britain,problems can happen because not all the different cultures/religions seem to like each other,maybe a review of the present laws is needed and new laws need to be passed, no demonstrations that might cause a breakdown in community cohesion, no foreign flags or symbols to be displayed in public, no hate slogans etc etc. This is the problem Governments/Politicians/The Police and Admins of obscure League 1 Football Club Forums both have. Where does one draw the line between allowing freedom of speech and giving someone a platform for people to cause offence. It is a very very blurry line? Mods here do their best. Perhaps a better job than Sunak, Khan and Sir Mark Rowley. Perhaps not. Freedom of speech, surely you are either free to say anything at all or your not ? you cant have a bit of freedom of speech any more than you can be a bit dead or a bit married. I dont think that there has been freedom of speech for a long time if ever, in the middle ages if you said "jesus was a ****" you would have been punished,severely, same as now if you said "allah was child molester" you would be in trouble. I dont mind having to obey the rules as long as we are told what the rules are, at the moment I could say something that I think is ok then be taken to court and fined or imprisoned because a jury decides that what I said was actually offensive. A while back I said handicapped and I was told that is an offensive term,I asked what I should have said and I was told disabled,thats fine now I know but they change things without telling us,for instance as a child I was told to say coloured about non white people as that was the polite term,now thats wrong ! With these demonstrators in London its quite clear that a lot of them are guilty of using threatening behaviour, the law defines this as using abusive,insulting or offensive words or behaviour.... arrest them,put them before the courts. |
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