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Post by baselswh on Apr 28, 2023 18:45:02 GMT
The BBC will have another Conservative Boss,but one that does'nt break the rules. The top man/woman apparently has nothing to do with what programmes go out. Hopefully any political bias can be stopped,we deserve a neutral BBC. Preferably one that deals in facts rather than soundbites. And maybe one day they will get a Government minister to answer a question with facts.... but I won't hold my breath waiting! Plus jail those responsible for 'losing' episodes of Dads Army. |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Apr 28, 2023 20:36:23 GMT
The BBC will have another Conservative Boss,but one that does'nt break the rules. The top man/woman apparently has nothing to do with what programmes go out. Hopefully any political bias can be stopped,we deserve a neutral BBC. Then the BBC will not be impartial and it proves that all the rubbish that Tim Davie was spouting about Lineker’s tweets was a load of hypocritical bollocks. Unfortunately you are right in how it will play out |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on May 3, 2023 23:40:33 GMT
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Post by baselswh on May 4, 2023 5:41:05 GMT
I see Sue Gray had the brass neck to not show up to answer questions on eg when did Sir Kier first approach her about actually joining the Labour Party.
This after demanding Johnsons every syllable on eating a slice of cake etc.
John Bercow in his role as Parliament ref,the BBC and Civil Service (Home Office) have had ideas above their station.Not trustworthy or honourable.
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2023 6:13:27 GMT
Water on stoney ground I am afraid Mrs S. |
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2023 6:16:54 GMT
I see Sue Gray had the brass neck to not show up to answer questions on eg when did Sir Kier first approach her about actually joining the Labour Party. This after demanding Johnsons every syllable on eating a slice of cake etc. John Bercow in his role as Parliament ref,the BBC and Civil Service (Home Office) have had ideas above their station.Not trustworthy or honourable. False. You are spreading a false narrative (again) Ms Gray is cooperating fully with the Commons Committee on appointments. This is standard practice. The group she wouldn't double up with is a group of Tory MPs which is her right. You understood this right? |
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Post by baselswh on May 4, 2023 6:18:43 GMT
I see Sue Gray had the brass neck to not show up to answer questions on eg when did Sir Kier first approach her about actually joining the Labour Party. This after demanding Johnsons every syllable on eating a slice of cake etc. John Bercow in his role as Parliament ref,the BBC and Civil Service (Home Office) have had ideas above their station.Not trustworthy or honourable. False. You are spreading a false narrative (again) Ms Gray is cooperating fully with the Commons Committee on appointments. This is standard practice. The group she wouldn't double up with is a group of Tory MPs which is her right. You understood this right? She's well dodgy as is Sir Kier. |
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2023 7:28:37 GMT
False. You are spreading a false narrative (again) Ms Gray is cooperating fully with the Commons Committee on appointments. This is standard practice. The group she wouldn't double up with is a group of Tory MPs which is her right. You understood this right? She's well dodgy as is Sir Kier. In your clearly I'll informed opinion. Baseless as always |
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Post by Cheshiregas on May 4, 2023 8:33:33 GMT
False. You are spreading a false narrative (again) Ms Gray is cooperating fully with the Commons Committee on appointments. This is standard practice. The group she wouldn't double up with is a group of Tory MPs which is her right. You understood this right? She's well dodgy as is Sir Kier. And your evidence to back this up. At the time of her investigation of Johnson she was considered one of the most trustworthy Civil servants. She is fully cooperating with the Appointment Committees not kowtowing to Tory Party favourites. Even the Daily Telegraph admitted she is fully cooperating. You will find that Tory advisers have advised Sunak not to go after Starmer on this matter as attacking Gray would mean it would be open season on the fact that Sunak was present at and fined for attending parties as well. Hence why Sunak hasn't mentioned it at PM Questions!! |
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2023 9:00:13 GMT
She's well dodgy as is Sir Kier. And your evidence to back this up. At the time of her investigation of Johnson she was considered one of the most trustworthy Civil servants. She is fully cooperating with the Appointment Committees not kowtowing to Tory Party favourites. Even the Daily Telegraph admitted she is fully cooperating. You will find that Tory advisers have advised Sunak not to go after Starmer on this matter as attacking Gray would mean it would be open season on the fact that Sunak was present at and fined for attending parties as well. Hence why Sunak hasn't mentioned it at PM Questions!! The thing that is frustrating is the fact that certain people, or person, peddle this nonsense as if it were fact. You cannot reason with them, or even debate properly. They don't really have an opinion, they just choose a headline which tickles their fancy and repeat it. All a bit pathetic really... |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on May 4, 2023 9:09:11 GMT
She's well dodgy as is Sir Kier. In your clearly I'll informed opinion. Baseless as always As he says he doesn’t read newspapers likely recycled directly from Gammon News without engaging grey matter in between. At least we know who one of their 10 viewers is now |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on May 4, 2023 9:12:42 GMT
She's well dodgy as is Sir Kier. And your evidence to back this up. At the time of her investigation of Johnson she was considered one of the most trustworthy Civil servants. She is fully cooperating with the Appointment Committees not kowtowing to Tory Party favourites. Even the Daily Telegraph admitted she is fully cooperating. You will find that Tory advisers have advised Sunak not to go after Starmer on this matter as attacking Gray would mean it would be open season on the fact that Sunak was present at and fined for attending parties as well. Hence why Sunak hasn't mentioned it at PM Questions!! Only trustworthy when working for the Nasties. Becomes completely untrustworthy when doing anything else. |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on May 4, 2023 9:28:33 GMT
And your evidence to back this up. At the time of her investigation of Johnson she was considered one of the most trustworthy Civil servants. She is fully cooperating with the Appointment Committees not kowtowing to Tory Party favourites. Even the Daily Telegraph admitted she is fully cooperating. You will find that Tory advisers have advised Sunak not to go after Starmer on this matter as attacking Gray would mean it would be open season on the fact that Sunak was present at and fined for attending parties as well. Hence why Sunak hasn't mentioned it at PM Questions!! The thing that is frustrating is the fact that certain people, or person, peddle this nonsense as if it were fact. You cannot reason with them, or even debate properly. They don't really have an opinion, they just choose a headline which tickles their fancy and repeat it. All a bit pathetic really... Imported directly from the Nasty party playbook. Lie, lie some more, gaslight, repeat the lie as often as possible and eventually it may get accepted as a common but entirely baseless truth. Just needs to learn the 3 word slogan technique next |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 4, 2023 12:58:53 GMT
And your evidence to back this up. At the time of her investigation of Johnson she was considered one of the most trustworthy Civil servants. She is fully cooperating with the Appointment Committees not kowtowing to Tory Party favourites. Even the Daily Telegraph admitted she is fully cooperating. You will find that Tory advisers have advised Sunak not to go after Starmer on this matter as attacking Gray would mean it would be open season on the fact that Sunak was present at and fined for attending parties as well. Hence why Sunak hasn't mentioned it at PM Questions!! Only trustworthy when working for the Nasties. Becomes completely untrustworthy when doing anything else. C'mon, at least get the basics right. She was not 'working for the Tories'. She was the head of an independent investigation by the Civil Service. We now know that at the time she was in discussion with the Labour Party for a job with them. Hardly independent and most certainly unethical. |
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2023 13:42:05 GMT
Only trustworthy when working for the Nasties. Becomes completely untrustworthy when doing anything else. C'mon, at least get the basics right. She was not 'working for the Tories'. She was the head of an independent investigation by the Civil Service. We now know that at the time she was in discussion with the Labour Party for a job with them. Hardly independent and most certainly unethical. She was appointed by the Tory government to investigate...the Tories. Is there any fact based evidence that she was in "discussion" with the Labour Party at the same time? She published her interim findings in January 2022, the full findings not released until May 2022 because of a criminal investigation by the Met. It's hard to believe that Johnson's government was so incompetent that they appointed a top civil servant who was in negotiations for a leading role in the Labour Party opposition...oh, hang on🤭🤭🤭 Seriously, remember at the time how Johnson "bigged" her up, quoting her reputation for robust impartiality....funny that. Truthfully this is just another smokescreen because the Tories do not want to talk about the disaster of their thirteen years in power. Some of us predicted this...didn't we.🤔🤔 "Johnson could have announced an independent inquiry at this stage, but once again decided not to do so. Instead he appointed Gray, because she had a reputation for fairness and impartiality built over a decades-long career. She was also seen as a figure firmly of the establishment, overseeing the Cabinet Office’s “clearing house” which handled (ie blocked) sensitive freedom of information requests. Gray was no journalist’s idea of a good source." |
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on May 4, 2023 14:33:59 GMT
Spot on Oldie. Whilst she was employed as a civil servant she will have abided by the Civil Service code and will have been acting ethically and with impartiality at all times. To suggest otherwise without any shred of proof is simply repeating the nasty party gaslighting of public sector employees.
I’ll also add that even when working as s civil servant she is totally within her rights to have discussions with whomever she likes about her future employment. Any attempt to stop this is an infringement of her civil liberties and would not be done to any private sector employee.
There are business appointment procedures that cover any move to a new employer where there is a potential conflict of interest and as long as they have been followed then everything is tickety-boo.
If Nobby thinks that these have not been followed then presumably he has the evidence to support this?
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