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Post by bluetornados on Apr 21, 2023 10:26:05 GMT
Dominic Raab lashes out at 'flawed' bullying inquiry as he quits..ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/1440/cpsprodpb/0336/production/_129422800_raab-07july-hero-getty.jpgDominic Raab has angrily dismissed the findings of a bullying inquiry that has prompted him to resign as justice secretary and deputy prime minister. The five-month probe, by a senior lawyer, was set up by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak after complaints about Mr Raab's behaviour as a minister. In a letter to Mr Sunak, Mr Raab said he would resign if the inquiry "made any finding of bullying whatsoever". He said the inquiry "dismissed all but two of the claims levelled against me". Mr Raab said two findings that went against him were "flawed" and "set a dangerous precedent for the conduct of good government". .............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. Dominic Raab has resigned as deputy prime minister & justice secretary after a report investigating bullying allegations was handed to the prime minister. Here is his resignation letter in full.
Dear Prime Minister,
I am writing to resign from your government, following receipt of the report arising from the inquiry conducted by Adam Tolley KC. I called for the inquiry and undertook to resign, if it made any finding of bullying whatsoever. I believe it is important to keep my word. It has been a privilege to serve you as deputy prime minister, justice secretary and lord chancellor. I am grateful to have had the opportunity to work as a minister in a range of roles and departments since 2015, and pay tribute to the many outstanding civil servants with whom I have worked. Whilst I feel duty bound to accept the outcome of the inquiry, it dismissed all but two of the claims levelled against me. I also believe that its two adverse findings are flawed and set a dangerous precedent for the conduct of good government. First, ministers must be able to exercise direct oversight with respect to senior officials over critical negotiations conducted on behalf of the British people, otherwise the democratic and constitutional principle of ministerial responsibility will be lost. This was particularly true during my time as foreign secretary, in the context of the Brexit negotiations over Gibraltar, when a senior diplomat breached the mandate agreed by cabinet. Second, ministers must be able to give direct critical feedback on briefings and submissions to senior officials, in order to set the standards and drive the reform the public expect of us. Of course, this must be done within reasonable bounds. Mr Tolley concluded that I had not once, in four and a half years, sworn or shouted at anyone, let alone thrown anything or otherwise physically intimidated anyone, nor intentionally sought to belittle anyone. I am genuinely sorry for any unintended stress or offence that any officials felt, as a result of the pace, standards and challenge that I brought to the Ministry of Justice. That is, however, what the public expect of ministers working on their behalf. In setting the threshold for bullying so low, this inquiry has set a dangerous precedent. It will encourage spurious complaints against ministers, and have a chilling effect on those driving change on behalf of your government - and ultimately the British people. Finally, I raised with you a number of improprieties that came to light during the course of this inquiry. They include the systematic leaking of skewed and fabricated claims to the media in breach of the rules of the inquiry and the Civil Service Code of Conduct, and the coercive removal by a senior official of dedicated private secretaries from my Ministry of Justice private office, in October of last year. I hope these will be independently reviewed. I remain as supportive of you and this government, as when I first introduced you at your campaign leadership launch last July. You have proved a great prime minister in very challenging times, and you can count on my support from the backbenches. Yours sincerely,
Dominic Raab
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Post by baselswh on Apr 21, 2023 10:31:09 GMT
Lazy and wimpy Remainers from our civil service get their way.
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Post by bluetornados on Apr 21, 2023 10:33:18 GMT
What counts as workplace bullying ?..By Tom Espiner
Employers must try to protect staff from bullying in the workplace, but sometimes it is hard to know what to do about the problem.
Dominic Raab has resigned as Deputy Prime Minister after a report investigating bullying allegations against him was handed to the prime minister.
But how do you know you're being bullied at work, and what can you do about it?
What is bullying in the workplace.? The UK government defines it as "behaviour that makes someone feel intimidated or offended".
Dispute resolution service Acas says that bullying behaviour can be "malicious or insulting", or an abuse of power that "undermines, humiliates, or causes physical or emotional harm to someone".
It can be regular or a one-off, happen in person or online, it can be at work or at a work-related event such as a party, and it may not be obvious.
Bullying can range from being very direct, such as verbal or physical abuse, to being subtle, such as excluding people and isolating them.
Bullying could include:
a colleague spreading rumours, or putting you down in meetings
your boss giving you more work than everyone else
someone putting humiliating comments on social media
a manager offering career development opportunities or training to others that you are denied
a boss not giving you chances to show your skills or ignoring you
What does the law say.? There is no legal definition of bullying, and human resources professional body the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development (CIPD) says there is no single piece of legislation that covers it.
But there are legal protections. Employers have a duty of care to keep you safe at work, and you may be able to claim for breach of employment contract if this doesn't happen.
Employment lawyer Jessica Rowson at Oakwood Solicitors, who specialises in stress at work, says courts look at intention and the effect of behaviour on an individual.
The lack of a legal definition of bullying can cause confusion for both employees and employers, Ms Rowson adds.
Who can be bullied.? While the majority of bullying is abuse of power by bosses, it can also be done by peers or
People lower down in the pecking order can bully upwards by showing continued disrespect, refusing to complete tasks, spreading rumours, or doing things to try to make it look as though you are bad at your job.
Even business owners can be bullied, although so-called "upward bullying" is relatively rare.
Bullying can extend to contractors working on site or even job applicants.
However, in practice, most bullying disputes involve someone being bullied by their line manager, according to Michelle Last, employment partner at Keystone Law.
How widespread is bullying.? Unfortunately workplace bullying is fairly common, with more than one in 10 people suffering, according to the CIPD's latest figures.
It found that 15% of employees said they were bullied at some point between 2016 and 2019.
Women are significantly more likely than men to say they've been bullied.
What can employees do if they are bullied.? The CIPD says: "Speak up! It's only by challenging unfair treatment that it can be properly dealt with."
One of the first steps is to discuss the problem with a senior manager or HR.
Employment lawyer Anne Pritam at Stephenson Harwood says "sometimes just getting the issue into the open can make a bully back off".
"Often people who are perceived as bullies have no idea that they are seen that way, and an informal word from HR or a more senior manager might show an employee that their actions are having unintended consequences," she says.
It's also a good idea to keep a log of bullying incidents with dates and times, noting how they make you feel, Acas says.
If dealing with the problem informally doesn't work, the next step is to raise a grievance, which is a way of making a formal complaint.
It's also important to look after your mental health.
Jessica Rowson says: "If your mental health is suffering because of the bullying, do try and recognise that this is an important issue to address, and seek out medical support from your GP, who is there to help."
How should an employer handle a bullying complaint.? People may not report bullying because they think it could harm their careers.
So organisations must have clear procedures for dealing with bullying, and act fairly and quickly to resolve complaints, the CIPD says.
Large employers may have organised systems with employee helplines and teams that handle bullying complaints, says Anne Pritam.
For smaller companies, complaints must be taken seriously and investigated, she says.
If the complaint turns out to be well-founded, the problem needs to addressed - usually through training, coaching or disciplinary sanctions.
Ms Pritam says bullying is "a high-risk issue" and can lead employees who have been consistently poorly treated to resign and sue for unfair constructive dismissal or harassment.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Apr 21, 2023 11:31:30 GMT
Lazy and wimpy Remainers from our civil service get their way. So you believe in aggressive and bullying behaviour in the workplace Bas. Interesting. It wasn't just one complaint. Also what does it have to do with Brexit?
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Post by oldie on Apr 21, 2023 11:39:25 GMT
Lazy and wimpy Remainers from our civil service get their way. So you believe in aggressive and bullying behaviour in the workplace Bas. Interesting. It wasn't just one complaint. Also what does it have to do with Brexit? The team's home record is due to "Lazy and Wimpy" remainers apparently. It was reported in the Daily Express.
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Post by baselswh on Apr 21, 2023 12:05:05 GMT
Lazy and wimpy Remainers from our civil service get their way. So you believe in aggressive and bullying behaviour in the workplace Bas. Interesting. It wasn't just one complaint. Also what does it have to do with Brexit? Telling Civil servants to buck up and get on with their job is a plus.A strength.Not bullying. Amazing how many of them suffer from long Covid, well above the countrys average.
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Post by Nobbygas on Apr 21, 2023 12:22:26 GMT
To be honest, ignore the headlines and take a look at what is considered "bullying" or "aggressive behaviour" in this case, and it is nonsense. He slammed his hand down on the table to make a point. He told someone that their work was "useless". He held his hand up to stop someone talking..................Have any of the people making judgements on this actually worked in a real workplace? It has also made a very dangerous precedent in that in the future ANY government Minister will be afraid to say anything to a Civil Servant for fear of being hauled up.
Sorry, but when you lead sometimes you have to be a leader.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Apr 21, 2023 16:14:52 GMT
Indeed, it's interesting how he follows the bully's pattern. Deny everything Blame others Portray yourself as the victim Bit like Trump and Johnson.....
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 21, 2023 17:02:27 GMT
Civil servants - jobs for life. But don't dare critisize them else their bottom lip will go all wobbly. Get them to work 6 months in the private sector and let them see what the real world looks like. Someone banged a table? Gracious! Get the smelling salts. Your poor little darlings. Pathetic, spineless, lazy, whimpering, covid rule-breaking, privileged babies. Grow up. And if you can't stand a bit of critism, get another job. I'm not sat on the fence with this one.
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Post by oldie on Apr 21, 2023 19:19:11 GMT
Civil servants - jobs for life. But don't dare critisize them else their bottom lip will go all wobbly. Get them to work 6 months in the private sector and let them see what the real world looks like. Someone banged a table? Gracious! Get the smelling salts. Your poor little darlings. Pathetic, spineless, lazy, whimpering, covid rule-breaking, privileged babies. Grow up. And if you can't stand a bit of critism, get another job. I'm not sat on the fence with this one. Me neither. The defence industry has been ripping off the taxpayer's for decades. Why hasn't someone "banged the desk"? We need to know
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Post by One F in Dunford on Apr 22, 2023 9:05:42 GMT
Civil servants - jobs for life. But don't dare critisize them else their bottom lip will go all wobbly. Get them to work 6 months in the private sector and let them see what the real world looks like. Someone banged a table? Gracious! Get the smelling salts. Your poor little darlings. Pathetic, spineless, lazy, whimpering, covid rule-breaking, privileged babies. Grow up. And if you can't stand a bit of critism, get another job. I'm not sat on the fence with this one. I worked for 42 years in the Civil Service. Been working for the past three and a half years in the private sector (“the real world”) doing roughly the same job but earning significantly more. From seeing both sides of the fence I can honestly say that myself and the Civil Servants I worked with, worked a dam site harder and were a lot more professional than their private sector counterparts. It is so easy to slag off The Civi Service if you have never worked in that environment.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 22, 2023 9:40:20 GMT
Civil servants - jobs for life. But don't dare critisize them else their bottom lip will go all wobbly. Get them to work 6 months in the private sector and let them see what the real world looks like. Someone banged a table? Gracious! Get the smelling salts. Your poor little darlings. Pathetic, spineless, lazy, whimpering, covid rule-breaking, privileged babies. Grow up. And if you can't stand a bit of critism, get another job. I'm not sat on the fence with this one. I worked for 42 years in the Civil Service. Been working for the past three and a half years in the private sector (“the real world”) doing roughly the same job but earning significantly more. From seeing both sides of the fence I can honestly say that myself and the Civil Servants I worked with, worked a dam site harder and were a lot more professional than their private sector counterparts. It is so easy to slag off The Civi Service if you have never worked in that environment. Fair enough One F. I have never worked in the civil service so your opinion carries carries far more weight than mine, and I respect that. I'm not saying "bullying" is OK. But what actually constitutes bullying? I worked in the City for 25 years. From what I experienced and witnessed there, these instances of 'bullying' by Mr Raab appear utterly pathetic and trivial. As for perception, I blame Sir Humphrey.
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Post by One F in Dunford on Apr 22, 2023 11:42:10 GMT
I worked for 42 years in the Civil Service. Been working for the past three and a half years in the private sector (“the real world”) doing roughly the same job but earning significantly more. From seeing both sides of the fence I can honestly say that myself and the Civil Servants I worked with, worked a dam site harder and were a lot more professional than their private sector counterparts. It is so easy to slag off The Civi Service if you have never worked in that environment. Fair enough One F. I have never worked in the civil service so your opinion carries carries far more weight than mine, and I respect that. I'm not saying "bullying" is OK. But what actually constitutes bullying? I worked in the City for 25 years. From what I experienced and witnessed there, these instances of 'bullying' by Mr Raab appear utterly pathetic and trivial. As for perception, I blame Sir Humphrey. Hi Epping, What constitutes bullying to one employee would certainly be different to another. As a leader you have to gauge your staff and whilst some may respond to a “dressing down “, others may need the softer arm around the shoulder approach, seeing how you can help them. Unfortunately Raab comes across as a one trick pony, expecting all staff to respond to a raised voice and banging desks etc.
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Post by oldie on Apr 22, 2023 12:36:17 GMT
Fair enough One F. I have never worked in the civil service so your opinion carries carries far more weight than mine, and I respect that. I'm not saying "bullying" is OK. But what actually constitutes bullying? I worked in the City for 25 years. From what I experienced and witnessed there, these instances of 'bullying' by Mr Raab appear utterly pathetic and trivial. As for perception, I blame Sir Humphrey. Hi Epping, What constitutes bullying to one employee would certainly be different to another. As a leader you have to gauge your staff and whilst some may respond to a “dressing down “, others may need the softer arm around the shoulder approach, seeing how you can help them. Unfortunately Raab comes across as a one trick pony, expecting all staff to respond to a raised voice and banging desks etc. In my experience those that lead by shouting, use threatening language etc etc are the weakest people I have ever met.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Apr 22, 2023 13:39:36 GMT
Consequently, with Raab's departure, that’s all of the 'Britannia Unchained' morons, sacked or resigned. Leaving behind a succession of economic ruination and political shambles. #ToriesUnfitToGovernThe sad thing about that book is that the architects are leading us to exactly the opposite of what they arrogantly boasted about!
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Post by One F in Dunford on Apr 22, 2023 13:49:07 GMT
Hi Epping, What constitutes bullying to one employee would certainly be different to another. As a leader you have to gauge your staff and whilst some may respond to a “dressing down “, others may need the softer arm around the shoulder approach, seeing how you can help them. Unfortunately Raab comes across as a one trick pony, expecting all staff to respond to a raised voice and banging desks etc. In my experience those that lead by shouting, use threatening language etc etc are the weakest people I have ever met. Totally agree. UTG
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Post by oldie on Apr 22, 2023 15:03:25 GMT
Consequently, with Raab's departure, that’s all of the 'Britannia Unchained' morons, sacked or resigned. Leaving behind a succession of economic ruination and political shambles. #ToriesUnfitToGovernThe sad thing about that book is that the architects are leading us to exactly the opposite of what they arrogantly boasted about! Shhhhhh.....you will be accused of hijacking a thread
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Post by Cheshiregas on Apr 22, 2023 15:41:45 GMT
The sad thing about that book is that the architects are leading us to exactly the opposite of what they arrogantly boasted about! Shhhhhh.....you will be accused of hijacking a thread Nope, the man who holidayed while Kabul was taken over by the Taliban, people died and good people loyal to the UK were left behind has his name firmly on the front of that missive!
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Post by oldie on Apr 22, 2023 18:35:00 GMT
Shhhhhh.....you will be accused of hijacking a thread Nope, the man who holidayed while Kabul was taken over by the Taliban, people died and good people loyal to the UK were left behind has his name firmly on the front of that missive! Absolutely
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 23, 2023 7:57:08 GMT
The sad thing about that book is that the architects are leading us to exactly the opposite of what they arrogantly boasted about! Shhhhhh.....you will be accused of hijacking a thread No. Perfectly valid to bring up a book which was co-written by Dominic Raab. Has anyone actually read it? Copy & pasting a grauniad review doesn't count.
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