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Post by baselswh on Sept 18, 2022 10:35:18 GMT
It sounds strange, but I was more concerned by the Morecambe result than yesterday's loss. Apparently, relegation favourites Morecambe were the better team, which doesn't sound like it was the case yesterday. Appalling bad luck, individual errors and a long injury list combined to produce a surreal scoreline. We have to be patient and remember that the first-choice team is certainly good enough to survive in D1. But JB still hasn't learned from the relegation season, when he was writing off games and even the whole season. What incentive does it give to the players in the team if JB effectively says things won't improve until the injured players return? Will the opposition manager even need to give a motivational speech? JB really needs to learn to think before speaking. Those playing now clearly have a chance to cement a place in the first 11. That has not changed. |
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Post by oldie on Sept 18, 2022 10:40:17 GMT
It sounds strange, but I was more concerned by the Morecambe result than yesterday's loss. Apparently, relegation favourites Morecambe were the better team, which doesn't sound like it was the case yesterday. Appalling bad luck, individual errors and a long injury list combined to produce a surreal scoreline. We have to be patient and remember that the first-choice team is certainly good enough to survive in D1. But JB still hasn't learned from the relegation season, when he was writing off games and even the whole season. What incentive does it give to the players in the team if JB effectively says things won't improve until the injured players return? Will the opposition manager even need to give a motivational speech? JB really needs to learn to think before speaking. Those playing now clearly have a chance to cement a place in the first 11. That has not changed. So how did they do, given that they lost 3-6 at home? |
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 18, 2022 11:23:13 GMT
My take on the game yesterday. Spot on! Normally 3 goals would win you the game but ‘keystone Cop’ defending caused embarrassment and three points. UTFG Conceding 6 would appear to the problem here. Although Huddersfield managed to overcome their defensive frailties. Huddersfield Town 7–6 Charlton Athletic (21 December 1957). |
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Post by richmace on Sept 18, 2022 11:26:59 GMT
Richmace said "Defence is our major problem and I have 100% confidence that JB will sort it out." What underpins your confidence? My confidence is based on last season's appalling start and perfect finish. Even if we had missed out on promotion the improvement was clear to see.
We have also been unfortunate with Connolly's injury, and the red card to Thomas was not helpful last week.
Bare in mind that the realistic goal for this season might be 20th. It is critical that we do not get relegated, and I think we have more than enough to achieve that.
Yesterday, I do think that Kilgour should have started, and the defensive aspect of midfield could have been tightened up by pushing Whelen into midfield and bringing Coutts on. Easy in hindsight...
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Post by oldie on Sept 18, 2022 12:08:33 GMT
Richmace said "Defence is our major problem and I have 100% confidence that JB will sort it out." What underpins your confidence? My confidence is based on last season's appalling start and perfect finish. Even if we had missed out on promotion the improvement was clear to see.
We have also been unfortunate with Connolly's injury, and the red card to Thomas was not helpful last week.
Bare in mind that the realistic goal for this season might be 20th. It is critical that we do not get relegated, and I think we have more than enough to achieve that.
Yesterday, I do think that Kilgour should have started, and the defensive aspect of midfield could have been tightened up by pushing Whelen into midfield and bringing Coutts on. Easy in hindsight...
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Post by baselswh on Sept 18, 2022 13:14:04 GMT
With both central defenders out we were always going to struggle. Whelan is still a good holding midfielder but he's no central defender, and they took full advantage. Their defence was wide open too at times and 6-6 would have been a fair result. We can't really judge the side until the best 11 have had a fair crack at it. Having said that, you must question the manager's team selection in the circumstances. Coutts with his endless running was a given today but was put on the bench alongside Kilgour, a decision I find baffling to be honest. Collins once again showed what a good striker he is, and Loft has come on leaps and bounds since last season. Plenty of positives there and Jasper looks like the flair player we've been calling out for. We go again! But Once again we start the season poorly. There comes a time when you have to question the manager's judgement when too many of his summer recruits have missed the majority of games so far this season, his team's poor disciplinary record continues and he sent out a team on Saturday, against that backdrop, that were so tactically ill prepared that they conceded 6 goals to a very average team. Player availability dictates tactics, surely? That smacks of a lack of professionalism and an arrogance which says "I don't care that you spent your hard earned money to turn up and watch us" Then, a couple of weeks after massaging his ego in the media when stating he wants overtake the other lot in Bristol, loses 3-6 at home and says we are in a tough division. I smell bullsh*t. Oh dear oh dear Luckily most won't be fooled by trouble makers like you. They know the season is not a sprint, but a marathon. |
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Post by swissgas on Sept 18, 2022 13:52:15 GMT
This is a genuine question and not intended to be controversial. I think we both started going in 1963 when Rovers were in the third division. In the ten years from then till we got promotion to the second division in 73/74 can you ever remember anyone talking about how we were in a very tough league and so mid table would be a good season ? With respect, I am quite surprised that you try and compare todays football to football from the Sixties and Seventies. Especially, as your take, from time to time, on the clubs financial matters is always informative and enlightening. It’s now all about the ‘money honey’ and as father Hackett commented, until we get a new ground / redeveloped Mem nothing will change. I reiterate this season League One is very tough league, as it’s now become rammed with top clubs with very deep pockets. Toteend2 analysed the Ipswich squad, and concluded they all ‘top draw’ players both the first team, along with second tier of players who are also quality. This makes recruitment very difficult for JB, especially when a potential target has the choice, either of playing at Ipswich, Bolton, Charlton, Derby, Portsmouth, Sheffield Wednesday…………or they could come to Rovers with the chance of playing in a ground that resembles a Second World War Air Raid Shelter, like I’ve got in the garden with the roof missing. That said JB already proved his attributes by still being able to put together a team that undoubtedly played the best football I ever watched from a Rovers team in half a century plus. Long gone are the days when the players had a few pints and cigarettes before the game ( thank goodness ) UTFG What I'm trying to compare is the Rovers culture then and now and how, IMO, this is linked in with our terrible underperformance over a thirty year period. And although I find myself completely at odds with you and many others including Doc F and Father Jack over this it's good that we can discuss it sensibly. My gut feeling is that back then we didn't play the victims any more than any other club did and in that ten year period we had to face teams like Crystal Palace, QPR, Middlesboro, Blackburn Rovers, Fulham and Aston Villa so things weren't too different. Of course we cursed referees and bad luck with injuries like everyone else and we wished we had more money to sign better players but we didn't make it the "b-all and end-all" of our existence as we do now. We have become totally obsessed with the blame culture and I'm afraid this fits in very well with the "everyone is against me" attitude which JB has displayed throughout his career. I won't rub it in by writing a list of JB's or Rovers achievements in football but, let's face it, that list is not very long because the blame culture is not a winning strategy. You spend too much time finding scapegoats and reasons why you don't succeed and not enough time concentrating on the job and making the best use of the resources you have to give yourself the best chance of succeeding. Which leads in to the point which you and Father Jack have made about a new stadium and which I fundamentally disagree with. We have been spun this line by successive owners but since Wael has been at Rovers we have had the chance to find out whether a new stadium, and the revenue it theoretically generates is the difference between success and failure and we have discovered that it is not. Because every year since 2016 Dwane Sports have put in an amount of cash which roughly equates to the extra sum a new stadium could generate and it has got Rovers absolutely nowhere. So if a new stadium had suddenly appeared in 2016 and brought in an extra £4 million per year we would be exactly where we are now because that money would have been wasted through mismanagement. If we want to succeed we have to get rid of the "Gas against the World" culture and we have to make sure that those leading the club manage it properly and make the best use of it's resources. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 18, 2022 14:55:56 GMT
Funnily enough if you flick around on virgin media you can see Columbo on a Sunday....Swiss avatar....both are very interesting to me!
Kind of agree with Swiss summing up paragraph, but see much in the post that is responded to.
There's something imo in both posts.
But.... "Rovers against the world" isn't a unique concept. But, it's very conducive to some of the old guard and I would go further to add that we wouldn't be where we are (which I think is a healthier than in some selective seasons) if it wasn't for the attitude, commitment and outlook of us against the world.
Just latter days of eastville:
May 86 v Chesterfield and season interim moving to Bath.
May 87 v Newport away last game, stave off relegation to div4.
Millwall away, their last game of season.
Liverpool fa cup.
Aston Villa.
Move to the Mem, but playing Twerton..
Higgs tenure.
Non league.
We have stood in face of adversity. As a fanbase. We've had various opinions on many things, but we've usually come together and had success with the notion of us against the world...
Other clubs can say the same.
But one more thing (Columbo), we always think officials, weather, the world, luck, journeys, injuries, momentum is against us.........but I guess our promotions of last season and 2007 and out of non league at Wembley and Browner's right foot are easily forgotten!?
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Post by richmace on Sept 18, 2022 15:04:37 GMT
My confidence is based on last season's appalling start and perfect finish. Even if we had missed out on promotion the improvement was clear to see.
We have also been unfortunate with Connolly's injury, and the red card to Thomas was not helpful last week.
Bare in mind that the realistic goal for this season might be 20th. It is critical that we do not get relegated, and I think we have more than enough to achieve that.
Yesterday, I do think that Kilgour should have started, and the defensive aspect of midfield could have been tightened up by pushing Whelen into midfield and bringing Coutts on. Easy in hindsight...
Ok Well,fingers crossed then. Of course, I could easily be wrong. Only time will tell.
JB has earned breathing room with the performance during the second half of last season. If we are still in the relegation zone come March or April next year then it will be time to panic.
I would expect an improvement in the defensive side of our game long before Christmas. Worst case scenario is that the situation gets resolved during the January transfer window, but that is too late really.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 18, 2022 15:27:00 GMT
Ok Well,fingers crossed then. Of course, I could easily be wrong. Only time will tell.
JB has earned breathing room with the performance during the second half of last season. If we are still in the relegation zone come March or April next year then it will be time to panic.
I would expect an improvement in the defensive side of our game long before Christmas. Worst case scenario is that the situation gets resolved during the January transfer window, but that is too late really.
Interesting post. I actually, agree! JAB has played some shockers imo, but overall holistically has brought the playing standard up (save the odd display). I think we've missed opportunity to rebuild, carrying momentum, capitalise on players available, but I do have more faith in JAB at end of season than I did this time last year. I still think it could be done differently (ie JAB is preserving with the 3 at back come what may) but the playing management team have earned respect and we'll see what they do with it... |
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Post by TaiwanGas on Sept 18, 2022 16:27:15 GMT
Ain’t going to change until we either get a new ground or redevelop the Mem. It’s as simple as that. It is as simple as that, until then, we will not have the income streams to be able to compete and consolidate at Championship level.
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 18, 2022 17:46:05 GMT
With respect, I am quite surprised that you try and compare todays football to football from the Sixties and Seventies. Especially, as your take, from time to time, on the clubs financial matters is always informative and enlightening. It’s now all about the ‘money honey’ and as father Hackett commented, until we get a new ground / redeveloped Mem nothing will change. I reiterate this season League One is very tough league, as it’s now become rammed with top clubs with very deep pockets. Toteend2 analysed the Ipswich squad, and concluded they all ‘top draw’ players both the first team, along with second tier of players who are also quality. This makes recruitment very difficult for JB, especially when a potential target has the choice, either of playing at Ipswich, Bolton, Charlton, Derby, Portsmouth, Sheffield Wednesday…………or they could come to Rovers with the chance of playing in a ground that resembles a Second World War Air Raid Shelter, like I’ve got in the garden with the roof missing. That said JB already proved his attributes by still being able to put together a team that undoubtedly played the best football I ever watched from a Rovers team in half a century plus. Long gone are the days when the players had a few pints and cigarettes before the game ( thank goodness ) UTFG What I'm trying to compare is the Rovers culture then and now and how, IMO, this is linked in with our terrible underperformance over a thirty year period. And although I find myself completely at odds with you and many others including Doc F and Father Jack over this it's good that we can discuss it sensibly. My gut feeling is that back then we didn't play the victims any more than any other club did and in that ten year period we had to face teams like Crystal Palace, QPR, Middlesboro, Blackburn Rovers, Fulham and Aston Villa so things weren't too different. Of course we cursed referees and bad luck with injuries like everyone else and we wished we had more money to sign better players but we didn't make it the "b-all and end-all" of our existence as we do now. We have become totally obsessed with the blame culture and I'm afraid this fits in very well with the "everyone is against me" attitude which JB has displayed throughout his career. I won't rub it in by writing a list of JB's or Rovers achievements in football but, let's face it, that list is not very long because the blame culture is not a winning strategy. You spend too much time finding scapegoats and reasons why you don't succeed and not enough time concentrating on the job and making the best use of the resources you have to give yourself the best chance of succeeding. Which leads in to the point which you and Father Jack have made about a new stadium and which I fundamentally disagree with. We have been spun this line by successive owners but since Wael has been at Rovers we have had the chance to find out whether a new stadium, and the revenue it theoretically generates is the difference between success and failure and we have discovered that it is not. Because every year since 2016 Dwane Sports have put in an amount of cash which roughly equates to the extra sum a new stadium could generate and it has got Rovers absolutely nowhere. So if a new stadium had suddenly appeared in 2016 and brought in an extra £4 million per year we would be exactly where we are now because that money would have been wasted through mismanagement. If we want to succeed we have to get rid of the "Gas against the World" culture and we have to make sure that those leading the club manage it properly and make the best use of it's resources.
Certainly, 4 Million a year is an expensive way of learning how to manage a football club. Fortunately, improvement’s in that department since the JB appointment. So to be clear we have a good manager and so does the top seven clubs in the current L1 table which includes the likes of Ipswich, Sheffield Weds, Bolton, Portsmouth and Derby. So why are they where they are and we are sat at the other end of the table. Could it have something to do with shiny modern Stadium v Cold War facilities. So they get all the cream in the transfer window and get off to fliers. and JB gets the leftovers and it takes a lot longer to get the team firing on all cylinders. It’s as simple as that nothings going to change until we get a new Stadium or a redeveloped Mem ( tongue in cheek!) UTFG |
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 18, 2022 17:58:33 GMT
It is as simple as that, until then, we will not have the income streams to be able to compete and consolidate at Championship level.
UTFG Blimey!, Is ‘consolidate’ in the Rovers Dictionary?. I would settle for a brief fling in the Championship. Trouble is I need to aim high as it’s in the top three on my bucket list - Home and Away matches against the *ity, Las Vegas and Japan. UTFG |
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Post by TaiwanGas on Sept 19, 2022 5:42:47 GMT
Blimey!, Is ‘consolidate’ in the Rovers Dictionary?. I would settle for a brief fling in the Championship. Trouble is I need to aim high as it’s in the top three on my bucket list - Home and Away matches against the *ity, Las Vegas and Japan. UTFG No harm in aiming higher and that’s a decent top three on your Bucket list n’all. |
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Post by swissgas on Sept 19, 2022 14:20:38 GMT
What I'm trying to compare is the Rovers culture then and now and how, IMO, this is linked in with our terrible underperformance over a thirty year period. And although I find myself completely at odds with you and many others including Doc F and Father Jack over this it's good that we can discuss it sensibly. My gut feeling is that back then we didn't play the victims any more than any other club did and in that ten year period we had to face teams like Crystal Palace, QPR, Middlesboro, Blackburn Rovers, Fulham and Aston Villa so things weren't too different. Of course we cursed referees and bad luck with injuries like everyone else and we wished we had more money to sign better players but we didn't make it the "b-all and end-all" of our existence as we do now. We have become totally obsessed with the blame culture and I'm afraid this fits in very well with the "everyone is against me" attitude which JB has displayed throughout his career. I won't rub it in by writing a list of JB's or Rovers achievements in football but, let's face it, that list is not very long because the blame culture is not a winning strategy. You spend too much time finding scapegoats and reasons why you don't succeed and not enough time concentrating on the job and making the best use of the resources you have to give yourself the best chance of succeeding. Which leads in to the point which you and Father Jack have made about a new stadium and which I fundamentally disagree with. We have been spun this line by successive owners but since Wael has been at Rovers we have had the chance to find out whether a new stadium, and the revenue it theoretically generates is the difference between success and failure and we have discovered that it is not. Because every year since 2016 Dwane Sports have put in an amount of cash which roughly equates to the extra sum a new stadium could generate and it has got Rovers absolutely nowhere. So if a new stadium had suddenly appeared in 2016 and brought in an extra £4 million per year we would be exactly where we are now because that money would have been wasted through mismanagement. If we want to succeed we have to get rid of the "Gas against the World" culture and we have to make sure that those leading the club manage it properly and make the best use of it's resources.
Certainly, 4 Million a year is an expensive way of learning how to manage a football club. Fortunately, improvement’s in that department since the JB appointment. So to be clear we have a good manager and so does the top seven clubs in the current L1 table which includes the likes of Ipswich, Sheffield Weds, Bolton, Portsmouth and Derby. So why are they where they are and we are sat at the other end of the table. Could it have something to do with shiny modern Stadium v Cold War facilities. So they get all the cream in the transfer window and get off to fliers. and JB gets the leftovers and it takes a lot longer to get the team firing on all cylinders. It’s as simple as that nothings going to change until we get a new Stadium or a redeveloped Mem ( tongue in cheek!) UTFG You say there have been improvements in the way the football club is managed since JB was appointed ( and JB plus the Bristol Post constantly tell us this as well) but is it true ? From what I can see the expenses have gone up considerably but the revenue has not increased proportionately (last seasons average crowd was 7500) so the losses for 21/22 are likely to be in the £ 3.5- 4.0 million range meaning they are getting worse. The league position is roughly the same as when JB arrived and there has to be a big question mark over whether he is really building a decent football team or just using his gamblers instinct to pay high wages and give long contracts in the hope of outspending the competition. It just about worked in League 2 where Rovers had a budget which was more than double that of some teams but if he thinks he will be able to do the same in League 1 then he is at the wrong club. If anyone at Rovers is serious about getting a new stadium or redeveloping the Mem they will have to sit in front of some financiers and present a plan. But if that plan consists of saying "we are playing some of the best football we've ever played so we hope things will get better" then the response is very predictable. If the financier is a bit cheeky he or she may even say something like "we are interested in backing winners and that Coughlan chap managed to win against Ipswich Town but now you say you can't compete with them, so is there any chance of getting him back ?" |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 19, 2022 14:25:59 GMT
Certainly, 4 Million a year is an expensive way of learning how to manage a football club. Fortunately, improvement’s in that department since the JB appointment. So to be clear we have a good manager and so does the top seven clubs in the current L1 table which includes the likes of Ipswich, Sheffield Weds, Bolton, Portsmouth and Derby. So why are they where they are and we are sat at the other end of the table. Could it have something to do with shiny modern Stadium v Cold War facilities. So they get all the cream in the transfer window and get off to fliers. and JB gets the leftovers and it takes a lot longer to get the team firing on all cylinders. It’s as simple as that nothings going to change until we get a new Stadium or a redeveloped Mem ( tongue in cheek!) UTFG You say there have been improvements in the way the football club is managed since JB was appointed ( and JB plus the Bristol Post constantly tell us this as well) but is it true ? From what I can see the expenses have gone up considerably but the revenue has not increased proportionately (last seasons average crowd was 7500) so the losses for 21/22 are likely to be in the £ 3.5- 4.0 million range meaning they are getting worse. The league position is roughly the same as when JB arrived and there has to be a big question mark over whether he is really building a decent football team or just using his gamblers instinct to pay high wages and give long contracts in the hope of outspending the competition. It just about worked in League 2 where Rovers had a budget which was more than double that of some teams but if he thinks he will be able to do the same in League 1 then he is at the wrong club. If anyone at Rovers is serious about getting a new stadium or redeveloping the Mem they will have to sit in front of some financiers and present a plan. But if that plan consists of saying "we are playing some of the best football we've ever played so we hope things will get better" then the response is very predictable. If the financier is a bit cheeky he or she may even say something like "we are interested in backing winners and that Coughlan chap managed to win against Ipswich Town but now you say you can't compete with them, so is there any chance of getting him back ?" 😂 |
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 19, 2022 15:49:24 GMT
Certainly, 4 Million a year is an expensive way of learning how to manage a football club. Fortunately, improvement’s in that department since the JB appointment. So to be clear we have a good manager and so does the top seven clubs in the current L1 table which includes the likes of Ipswich, Sheffield Weds, Bolton, Portsmouth and Derby. So why are they where they are and we are sat at the other end of the table. Could it have something to do with shiny modern Stadium v Cold War facilities. So they get all the cream in the transfer window and get off to fliers. and JB gets the leftovers and it takes a lot longer to get the team firing on all cylinders. It’s as simple as that nothings going to change until we get a new Stadium or a redeveloped Mem ( tongue in cheek!) UTFG You say there have been improvements in the way the football club is managed since JB was appointed ( and JB plus the Bristol Post constantly tell us this as well) but is it true ? From what I can see the expenses have gone up considerably but the revenue has not increased proportionately (last seasons average crowd was 7500) so the losses for 21/22 are likely to be in the £ 3.5- 4.0 million range meaning they are getting worse. The league position is roughly the same as when JB arrived and there has to be a big question mark over whether he is really building a decent football team or just using his gamblers instinct to pay high wages and give long contracts in the hope of outspending the competition. It just about worked in League 2 where Rovers had a budget which was more than double that of some teams but if he thinks he will be able to do the same in League 1 then he is at the wrong club. If anyone at Rovers is serious about getting a new stadium or redeveloping the Mem they will have to sit in front of some financiers and present a plan. But if that plan consists of saying "we are playing some of the best football we've ever played so we hope things will get better" then the response is very predictable. If the financier is a bit cheeky he or she may even say something like "we are interested in backing winners and that Coughlan chap managed to win against Ipswich Town but now you say you can't compete with them, so is there any chance of getting him back ?" Humm! Well attendances initially were not helped by Covid or the poor start. Then came the run in, and we became the ‘Liverpool’ of the fourth Division. It became almost impossible to get tickets, unless purchased a month in advance. As the ‘Chernobyl’ capacity was unable to keep up with demand. Arguably together it would have made significant dent in your anticipated losses. I am also of the opinion, and in agreement with many forum posters that JB will get us up and running in the next month or so. Unfortunately, I can’t see us making the playoffs as the league has to many ‘big clubs with big budgets’ (with decent stadiums) So will be happy to settle with a mid table finish. As to Coughlin, decent guy but the football played was unwatchable, give me JB anyday. UTFG |
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Post by swissgas on Sept 19, 2022 16:49:34 GMT
You say there have been improvements in the way the football club is managed since JB was appointed ( and JB plus the Bristol Post constantly tell us this as well) but is it true ? From what I can see the expenses have gone up considerably but the revenue has not increased proportionately (last seasons average crowd was 7500) so the losses for 21/22 are likely to be in the £ 3.5- 4.0 million range meaning they are getting worse. The league position is roughly the same as when JB arrived and there has to be a big question mark over whether he is really building a decent football team or just using his gamblers instinct to pay high wages and give long contracts in the hope of outspending the competition. It just about worked in League 2 where Rovers had a budget which was more than double that of some teams but if he thinks he will be able to do the same in League 1 then he is at the wrong club. If anyone at Rovers is serious about getting a new stadium or redeveloping the Mem they will have to sit in front of some financiers and present a plan. But if that plan consists of saying "we are playing some of the best football we've ever played so we hope things will get better" then the response is very predictable. If the financier is a bit cheeky he or she may even say something like "we are interested in backing winners and that Coughlan chap managed to win against Ipswich Town but now you say you can't compete with them, so is there any chance of getting him back ?" Humm! Well attendances initially were not helped by Covid or the poor start. Then came the run in, and we became the ‘Liverpool’ of the fourth Division. It became almost impossible to get tickets, unless purchased a month in advance. As the ‘Chernobyl’ capacity was unable to keep up with demand. Arguably together it would have made significant dent in your anticipated losses. I am also of the opinion, and in agreement with many forum posters that JB will get us up and running in the next month or so. Unfortunately, I can’t see us making the playoffs as the league has to many ‘big clubs with big budgets’ (with decent stadiums) So will be happy to settle with a mid table finish. As to Coughlin, decent guy but the football played was unwatchable, give me JB anyday. UTFG I think what you are describing is the "Rovers Way" and believe me I've been there and enjoyed every minute of it. The 73/74 season was the highlight of my teenage years and the 06/07 season an absolute pleasure because my two young sons were usually with me. It is hardly ever mentioned but Sean Rigg's late winner at Macclesfield Town in April 2007 made for an absolute stormer of a night for the few hundred Gasheads present because, after much suffering, we knew there was still a chance of the play off's and from then on the world was going to be our lobster ! My heart wants to be a believer but my head tells me that we are forever going to be the hard done by "natural levelers" unless there is a huge culture change at the club. |
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Post by TaiwanGas on Sept 19, 2022 18:37:55 GMT
Have not seen Barton’s Post Lincoln match report, or have I missed it?.
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Post by toteend3 on Sept 19, 2022 19:45:15 GMT
Humm! Well attendances initially were not helped by Covid or the poor start. Then came the run in, and we became the ‘Liverpool’ of the fourth Division. It became almost impossible to get tickets, unless purchased a month in advance. As the ‘Chernobyl’ capacity was unable to keep up with demand. Arguably together it would have made significant dent in your anticipated losses. I am also of the opinion, and in agreement with many forum posters that JB will get us up and running in the next month or so. Unfortunately, I can’t see us making the playoffs as the league has to many ‘big clubs with big budgets’ (with decent stadiums) So will be happy to settle with a mid table finish. As to Coughlin, decent guy but the football played was unwatchable, give me JB anyday. UTFG I think what you are describing is the "Rovers Way" and believe me I've been there and enjoyed every minute of it. The 73/74 season was the highlight of my teenage years and the 06/07 season an absolute pleasure because my two young sons were usually with me. It is hardly ever mentioned but Sean Rigg's late winner at Macclesfield Town in April 2007 made for an absolute stormer of a night for the few hundred Gasheads present because, after much suffering, we knew there was still a chance of the play off's and from then on the world was going to be our lobster ! My heart wants to be a believer but my head tells me that we are forever going to be the hard done by "natural levelers" unless there is a huge culture change at the club. Yep the 2006/7 was a vintage year, a Johnson Basta## Paint trophy Final defeat and more importantly a promotion final victory which my two young daughters witnessed made me please.as punch! Unfortunately, vintage seasons, such as that are few and far between, we are the perpetual underachievers, not helped by decades of piss poor management. The jury’s out on JB (in more ways than one) but if he’s good to his word and sees the job through. Then this would be our best chance yet to finally have a modernised ,professional and potentially successful club that we can finally be proud off.. There then maybe a real chance of competing again with that other team in Bristol ( that’s right Manor Farm) UTFG |
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