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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 19:59:39 GMT
Not going to answer my question then? One last time, where did I call all Romanian people Gypsies? I'm not going to ask again, as you are pathetic in these situations when you are asked to back up your accusations. You won't...you just ignore the question, and then go hiding. Step by step - You said - 'It's not a race, or religious thing, it's a cultural thing..as we have imported many backwards, and many dangerous culture's here.Oldie pointed out that - "Christianity is the predominant religion in Romania, with Romanian Orthodoxy being the largest denomination. According to the 2021 National Census, 85.3% of the population identified as Romanian Orthodox Christians, 4.5% as Roman Catholics, 3% as Reformed Christians, and 2.5% as Pentecostal Christians."
And asked - ' Culture?'You then replied - 'They are Gypsies.'We were all talking about Romanians. You did not say 'some are Gypsies' or 'a large percentage are Gypsies' you simply said 'They are Gypsies.'I wasn't talking about every Romanian,I never said that, you and the Accuser took it as if I had - but I never,and thats my point. In the Romanian culture many are gypsies. Why did he bring up Christianity for? As when myself, or anyone else has brought up Islam it's always been hounded down straight straight away. |
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2024 20:08:52 GMT
Not going to answer my question then? One last time, where did I call all Romanian people Gypsies? I'm not going to ask again, as you are pathetic in these situations when you are asked to back up your accusations. You won't...you just ignore the question, and then go hiding. Step by step - You said - 'It's not a race, or religious thing, it's a cultural thing..as we have imported many backwards, and many dangerous culture's here.Oldie pointed out that - "Christianity is the predominant religion in Romania, with Romanian Orthodoxy being the largest denomination. According to the 2021 National Census, 85.3% of the population identified as Romanian Orthodox Christians, 4.5% as Roman Catholics, 3% as Reformed Christians, and 2.5% as Pentecostal Christians."
And asked - ' Culture?'You then replied - 'They are Gypsies.'We were all talking about Romanians. You did not say 'some are Gypsies' or 'a large percentage are Gypsies' you simply said 'They are Gypsies.'Thanks Cheshire What is it with these people? When they say something, then as bold as brass deny saying it? |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 13, 2024 20:10:16 GMT
Step by step - You said - 'It's not a race, or religious thing, it's a cultural thing..as we have imported many backwards, and many dangerous culture's here.Oldie pointed out that - "Christianity is the predominant religion in Romania, with Romanian Orthodoxy being the largest denomination. According to the 2021 National Census, 85.3% of the population identified as Romanian Orthodox Christians, 4.5% as Roman Catholics, 3% as Reformed Christians, and 2.5% as Pentecostal Christians."
And asked - ' Culture?'You then replied - 'They are Gypsies.'We were all talking about Romanians. You did not say 'some are Gypsies' or 'a large percentage are Gypsies' you simply said 'They are Gypsies.'I wasn't talking about every Romanian, I never said that, you and the Accuser took it as if I had - but I never, and that's my point. In the Romanian culture many are gypsies. Why did he bring up Christianity for? As when myself, or anyone else has brought up Islam it's always been hounded down straight straight away. You didn't make that clear. I interpreted it as you wrote it. I read Oldie's comment as a response to your statement about culture, with him indicating that most Romanians are Christian. What culture were you thinking about? |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 13, 2024 20:10:19 GMT
"they are filth, criminals and an infection upon our society that offer nothing."
Sorry Ice, but that is an awful description of human beings. I hate to invoke Godwin's Law however that is reminiscent of the 1930s.
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2024 20:10:41 GMT
Step by step - You said - 'It's not a race, or religious thing, it's a cultural thing..as we have imported many backwards, and many dangerous culture's here.Oldie pointed out that - "Christianity is the predominant religion in Romania, with Romanian Orthodoxy being the largest denomination. According to the 2021 National Census, 85.3% of the population identified as Romanian Orthodox Christians, 4.5% as Roman Catholics, 3% as Reformed Christians, and 2.5% as Pentecostal Christians."
And asked - ' Culture?'You then replied - 'They are Gypsies.'We were all talking about Romanians. You did not say 'some are Gypsies' or 'a large percentage are Gypsies' you simply said 'They are Gypsies.'I wasn't talking about every Romanian,I never said that, you and the Accuser took it as if I had - but I never,and thats my point. In the Romanian culture many are gypsies. Why did he bring up Christianity for? As when myself, or anyone else has brought up Islam it's always been hounded down straight straight away. Jesus wept |
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2024 20:12:31 GMT
"they are filth, criminals and an infection upon our society that offer nothing." Sorry Ice, but that is an awful description of human beings. I hate to invoke Godwin's Law however that is reminiscent of the 1930s. This is the language of the very nasty right wing in this country. We have beaten them back before, it appears we might have to do it again |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 13, 2024 20:12:31 GMT
I wasn't talking about every Romanian, I never said that, you and the Accuser took it as if I had - but I never, and that's my point. In the Romanian culture many are gypsies. Why did he bring up Christianity for? As when myself, or anyone else has brought up Islam it's always been hounded down straight straight away. You didn't make that clear. I interpreted it as you wrote it. I read Oldie's comment as a response to your statement about culture, with him indicating that most Romanians are Christian. What culture were you thinking about? That's twice today he's quoted someone then denied the connection. |
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2024 20:13:31 GMT
You didn't make that clear. I interpreted it as you wrote it. I read Oldie's comment as a response to your statement about culture, with him indicating that most Romanians are Christian. What culture were you thinking about? That's twice today he's quoted someone then denied the connection. Yes absolutely There is something deeply disturbing about his logic |
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 13, 2024 20:36:17 GMT
Step by step - You said - 'It's not a race, or religious thing, it's a cultural thing..as we have imported many backwards, and many dangerous culture's here.Oldie pointed out that - "Christianity is the predominant religion in Romania, with Romanian Orthodoxy being the largest denomination. According to the 2021 National Census, 85.3% of the population identified as Romanian Orthodox Christians, 4.5% as Roman Catholics, 3% as Reformed Christians, and 2.5% as Pentecostal Christians."
And asked - ' Culture?'You then replied - 'They are Gypsies.'We were all talking about Romanians. You did not say 'some are Gypsies' or 'a large percentage are Gypsies' you simply said 'They are Gypsies.'Thanks Cheshire What is it with these people? When they say something, then as bold as brass deny saying it? Oldie, you have a history of doing just this. |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 20:36:36 GMT
"they are filth, criminals and an infection upon our society that offer nothing." Sorry Ice, but that is an awful description of human beings. I hate to invoke Godwin's Law however that is reminiscent of the 1930s. Excuse me,how else would you describe people that are not born here, going around stabbing and stealing from people in this country? Sorry, have I missed something? |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 20:38:49 GMT
Thanks Cheshire What is it with these people? When they say something, then as bold as brass deny saying it? Oldie, you have a history of doing just this. [br |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 13, 2024 20:42:40 GMT
"they are filth, criminals and an infection upon our society that offer nothing." Sorry Ice, but that is an awful description of human beings. I hate to invoke Godwin's Law however that is reminiscent of the 1930s. Excuse me,how else would you describe people that are not born here, going around stabbing and stealing from people in this country? Sorry, have I missed something? The full quote, word for word, is "The people...as I pointed out, however are gypies, they are filth, criminals and an infection upon our society that offer nothing." Where have gypsies, indeed all gypsies, gone around "stabbing and stealing". Where is it that they were "not born here"? |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 20:54:08 GMT
Excuse me,how else would you describe people that are not born here, going around stabbing and stealing from people in this country? Sorry, have I missed something? The full quote, word for word, is "The people...as I pointed out, however are gypies, they are filth, criminals and an infection upon our society that offer nothing." Where have gypsies, indeed all gypsies, gone around "stabbing and stealing". Where is it that they were "not born here"? Yes, I believe that people that go around stabbing, or steal from innocent individual's, are indeed... filthy, dirty criminals, that are an infection upon our society. I hold this opinion against them regardless of where they are from, be it that they were born English or if they are a immigrant, and regardless of their choice of faith. If you don't agree,then I don't think it's me that has the problem. |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 20:56:05 GMT
That's twice today he's quoted someone then denied the connection. Yes absolutely There is something deeply disturbing about his logic Nothing wrong with my logic, at least I can answer a question. |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 13, 2024 21:02:54 GMT
The full quote, word for word, is "The people...as I pointed out, however are gypies, they are filth, criminals and an infection upon our society that offer nothing." Where have gypsies, indeed all gypsies, gone around "stabbing and stealing". Where is it that they were "not born here"? Yes, I believe that people that go around stabbing, or steal from innocent individual's, are indeed... filthy, dirty criminals, that are an infection upon our society. I hold this opinion against them regardless of where they are from, be it that they were born English or if they are a immigrant, and regardless of their choice of faith. If you don't agree,then I don't think it's me that has the problem. No, re-read your own posts. You described gypsies as just that, you did not make any caveats. Gypsies are "filth", "criminals" and "infection on society". You also said they weren't born here, whereas they are. |
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 13, 2024 21:08:16 GMT
Seeing as this is the stabbings thread, what's the cure for knife crime ?
It's obviously massively on the agenda now due to the Southport tragedy and all that since ensued, but it was as much a problem 6 months ago as it is now. I won't argue against increased stop and search laws, harsher penalties and earlier education, but is that going to be enough?
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 13, 2024 21:33:49 GMT
Girl, 11, 'needs plastic surgery after she was put in headlock and stabbed eight times in "random attack" in Leicester Square while holidaying with mother', as Romanian man, 32, appears in court accused of attempted murder..Jess Warren & Nick Johnson, BBC News.i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/13/19/88477273-13738719-Ioan_Pintaru_appeared_in_court_charged_with_the_attempted_murder-a-1_1723573417732.jpgA 32-year-old man has appeared in court charged with attempted murder after an 11-year-old girl was stabbed in London’s Leicester Square on Monday. Ioan Pintaru, a Romanian national with no fixed address, is also charged with possession of a bladed article. The prosecutor told the court that Mr Pintaru allegedly placed the girl into a headlock and stabbed her eight times. She was taken to hospital with serious injuries. Westminster Magistrates' Court remanded Mr Pintaru in custody. He is due to appear at the Old Bailey in September. The court heard that Mr Pintaru allegedly approached two tourists - the girl and her mother - in Leicester Square at about 11.30 BST. The girl sustained injuries to her face, shoulder, neck and wrist during the attack, the court was told. She remains in hospital and is likely to undergo plastic surgery as a result of her injuries, the court heard. Mr Pintaru only spoke, via an interpreter, to confirm his name, date of birth, and that he had no fixed address.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 22:05:04 GMT
"they are filth, criminals and an infection upon our society that offer nothing." Sorry Ice, but that is an awful description of human beings. I hate to invoke Godwin's Law however that is reminiscent of the 1930s. This is the language of the very nasty right wing in this country. We have beaten them back before, it appears we might have to do it again Now your crossing a f**king line, you horrible little person. Who the f**k do you think you are calling me "far right"..( which is basically what you did) Mod's can you say something to him? I'm going to lose my rag on here and get banned if not. |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 13, 2024 22:18:23 GMT
Seeing as this is the stabbings thread, what's the cure for knife crime ? It's obviously massively on the agenda now due to the Southport tragedy and all that since ensued, but it was as much a problem 6 months ago as it is now. I won't argue against increased stop and search laws, harsher penalties and earlier education, but is that going to be enough? Correct pop up.👏 A good place to begin that discussion, has to be by asking the question of why are most of these recent knife crimes, been done by people of an immigrant background, or none British people? It's not a racist angle to start from, but one that is based on logic and bravery to state given how you will be attacked for bringing it up.. |
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Post by aghast on Aug 13, 2024 22:29:01 GMT
The bigoted language, the denial of it, and the outrage at being accused of it are quite astonishing.
It's hard to comprehend really. Not so much the words (I'm used to that) but the complete and utter denial of any discrimination.
And to then have the brazen cheek and front to pretend none of what they said was ever said!
It's sort of laughable and sort of pathetic and definitely sad for us all.
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