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Post by trymer on Aug 5, 2024 15:28:19 GMT
tbh I dont really care,when Aghast and Oldie can accuse me of being a racist but refuse to show any racist posts that i have made I feel that I can say anything I like back to them. Was it you who suggested Aghast had an unhealthy interest in children? Maybe we all should take a step back and think before posting. After he called me a racist and refused to show any of my posts which proved it I did suggest that my BBC paedo post seemed to upset him,I asked him the question and again he refused to reply, people can draw their own conclusions from that I know that I have.
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Post by Nobbygas on Aug 5, 2024 15:41:08 GMT
"Police are reviewing video footage in which a police officer advised a group of men to "discard any weapons" at a mosque, to avoid being arrested.
The officer was filmed in a video, which was livestreamed on TikTok, addressing a crowd of men outside the Darul Falah mosque in Hanley, near Stoke-on-Trent on Saturday.
Instead of arranging a search of the group to see if any had committed the offence of possession of an offensive weapon in public, for which they could be arrested and charged, the officer appeared to give them an amnesty.
Speaking through a loudspeaker, he is heard to say: "If there is any weapons or anything like that, then what I would do is discard them at the mosque.
"Don't give anybody any reason to have any interaction with police, so if there is any weapons, get rid of them and we won't have to arrest anyone."
The clip, which has been shared widely on social media, has fuelled claims of a two-tier policing system between rioters and members of the community.
Steve Perkins, a former Met Police officer, posted on X: "The officer tells people to leave weapons at the mosque and nobody will be arrested. I can see why there is an argument re two tier policing."
Another aimed their post at Kier Starmer and police adding: "With weapons yet no arrests, why?
"We see this as two-tier policing."
But, a third appeared to support the approach adding: "Never heard of a weapons amnesty?"
Trouble flared the same day between far right protesters and counter-protesters in the vicinity of the mosque, as scenes turned violent.
Riot police were deployed to the scene in huge numbers and Staffordshire Police struggled to keep the groups apart as there were fights and missiles were hurled.
Asked about the video by Express.co.uk today, a Staffordshire Police spokesperson said: "We recognise that some footage shared on social media has gained traction and impacted on public confidence, particularly surrounding a protest liaison officer giving words of advice to a group in Stoke-on-Trent on Saturday.
"We are actively reviewing this footage and all of the material available.
"We will address any lessons to be learned and assess whether the action taken was proportionate while we continue to reassure people in the local community.""
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Post by baldrick on Aug 5, 2024 15:49:53 GMT
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 5, 2024 16:09:04 GMT
"Police are reviewing video footage in which a police officer advised a group of men to "discard any weapons" at a mosque, to avoid being arrested. The officer was filmed in a video, which was livestreamed on TikTok, addressing a crowd of men outside the Darul Falah mosque in Hanley, near Stoke-on-Trent on Saturday. Instead of arranging a search of the group to see if any had committed the offence of possession of an offensive weapon in public, for which they could be arrested and charged, the officer appeared to give them an amnesty. Speaking through a loudspeaker, he is heard to say: "If there is any weapons or anything like that, then what I would do is discard them at the mosque.
"Don't give anybody any reason to have any interaction with police, so if there is any weapons, get rid of them and we won't have to arrest anyone."
The clip, which has been shared widely on social media, has fuelled claims of a two-tier policing system between rioters and members of the community. Steve Perkins, a former Met Police officer, posted on X: "The officer tells people to leave weapons at the mosque and nobody will be arrested. I can see why there is an argument re two tier policing." Another aimed their post at Kier Starmer and police adding: "With weapons yet no arrests, why? "We see this as two-tier policing." But, a third appeared to support the approach adding: "Never heard of a weapons amnesty?" Trouble flared the same day between far right protesters and counter-protesters in the vicinity of the mosque, as scenes turned violent. Riot police were deployed to the scene in huge numbers and Staffordshire Police struggled to keep the groups apart as there were fights and missiles were hurled. Asked about the video by Express.co.uk today, a Staffordshire Police spokesperson said: "We recognise that some footage shared on social media has gained traction and impacted on public confidence, particularly surrounding a protest liaison officer giving words of advice to a group in Stoke-on-Trent on Saturday.
"We are actively reviewing this footage and all of the material available.
"We will address any lessons to be learned and assess whether the action taken was proportionate while we continue to reassure people in the local community.""Personally I think it's a good idea to tell people not to have weapons, The so called 'protestors' were told not to take weapons but still went with knives, bricks, flammable materials, etc If you have two sides tooled up that is more likely to inflame the situation. Someone with a weapon in hand is more likely to use it! Or Nobby are you saying that the people at the Mosque should have been tooled up with weapons?
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Post by aghast on Aug 5, 2024 16:56:12 GMT
tbh I dont really care,when Aghast and Oldie can accuse me of being a racist but refuse to show any racist posts that i have made I feel that I can say anything I like back to them. Was it you who suggested Aghast had an unhealthy interest in children? Maybe we all should take a step back and think before posting. He's totally out of control with his comments. I don't care what he attempts to say about me but this hinting at trying death is genuinely outrageous.
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Post by aghast on Aug 5, 2024 17:00:24 GMT
Was it you who suggested Aghast had an unhealthy interest in children? Maybe we all should take a step back and think before posting. After he called me a racist and refused to show any of my posts which proved it I did suggest that my BBC paedo post seemed to upset him,I asked him the question and again he refused to reply, people can draw their own conclusions from that I know that I have. You asked, just out of ordinary curiosity, if I "like paedophiles or maybe children ?" If I were you I would have left it alone before posting and definitely after.
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Post by trymer on Aug 5, 2024 17:03:27 GMT
After he called me a racist and refused to show any of my posts which proved it I did suggest that my BBC paedo post seemed to upset him,I asked him the question and again he refused to reply, people can draw their own conclusions from that I know that I have. You asked, just out of ordinary curiosity, if I "like paedophiles or maybe children ?" If I were you I would have left it alone before posting and definitely after. You accused me of making racist posts (you STILL havent shown any of my racist posts,as the mods said its up to you to back up your accusations) so I asked how I had upset you,you seemed offended by my BBC paedophile post.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 5, 2024 17:06:21 GMT
Looks like lots of 'knocks on doors' happening across country and people having words with bosses. News outlets reporting that on monitored far right web channels advice is being given on ditching phones and anything else that could be used in evidence and masking up when going out [bit late] Backing off of mosques at present as they are being protected. Boycotting taxi and food apps as they are often employing minorities. Some backtracking by outlets such as GBNews and TalkTV from their initial excusing of the riots by conflating disaffection with protest. Even the Daily Mail having a pop at Yaxley Lennon.
Irony - many encouraging the use of masks were in the past encouraging people not to wear masks in the pandemic!
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Post by trymer on Aug 5, 2024 17:11:59 GMT
Looks like lots of 'knocks on doors' happening across country and people having words with bosses. News outlets reporting that on monitored far right web channels advice is being given on ditching phones and anything else that could be used in evidence and masking up when going out [bit late] Backing off of mosques at present as they are being protected. Boycotting taxi and food apps as they are often employing minorities. Some backtracking by outlets such as GBNews and TalkTV from their initial excusing of the riots by conflating disaffection with protest. Even the Daily Mail having a pop at Yaxley Lennon. Irony - many encouraging the use of masks were in the past encouraging people not to wear masks in the pandemic! I have wondered how easy it would be to disrupt the internet here ? that would cause absolute chaos.
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Post by aghast on Aug 5, 2024 17:14:57 GMT
You asked, just out of ordinary curiosity, if I "like paedophiles or maybe children ?" If I were you I would have left it alone before posting and definitely after. You accused me of making racist posts (you STILL havent shown any of my racist posts,as the mods said its up to you to back up your accusations) so I asked how I had upset you,you seemed offended by my BBC paedophile post. You should concentrate on trying to prove the 'English Lads' are being misunderstood. A much better use of your time on this forum, although doomed to failure I feel.
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Post by trymer on Aug 5, 2024 17:17:28 GMT
You accused me of making racist posts (you STILL havent shown any of my racist posts,as the mods said its up to you to back up your accusations) so I asked how I had upset you,you seemed offended by my BBC paedophile post. You should concentrate on trying to prove the 'English Lads' are being misunderstood. A much better use of your time on this forum, although doomed to failure I feel. I have condemned the rioters many times. You should not post accusations about people that you cant back up.
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Post by oldie on Aug 5, 2024 17:53:39 GMT
What are you? His dad? He said it, let him explain Because your questions are sometimes really tiring and unnecessary. It seems as though you are just trying for those "gotcha" questions. They add nothing to the debate. You might feel that way...because perhaps just because you don't like it. Just but out and leave it then. If Basel hadn't said it I would not have asked.
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Post by oldie on Aug 5, 2024 17:54:46 GMT
Was it you who suggested Aghast had an unhealthy interest in children? Maybe we all should take a step back and think before posting. After he called me a racist and refused to show any of my posts which proved it I did suggest that my BBC paedo post seemed to upset him,I asked him the question and again he refused to reply, people can draw their own conclusions from that I know that I have. To the best of my knowledge I have never come on here and called you racist.
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Post by oldie on Aug 5, 2024 17:59:00 GMT
Looks like lots of 'knocks on doors' happening across country and people having words with bosses. News outlets reporting that on monitored far right web channels advice is being given on ditching phones and anything else that could be used in evidence and masking up when going out [bit late] Backing off of mosques at present as they are being protected. Boycotting taxi and food apps as they are often employing minorities. Some backtracking by outlets such as GBNews and TalkTV from their initial excusing of the riots by conflating disaffection with protest. Even the Daily Mail having a pop at Yaxley Lennon. Irony - many encouraging the use of masks were in the past encouraging people not to wear masks in the pandemic! Biggest moment of the day was the report this evening of one of these stupid thugs up in the dock in court, when read the charge, starts crying and called out for his mum. Bloody hard these right wing thugs
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Post by trymer on Aug 5, 2024 18:00:15 GMT
I will answer you on this occasion because you are one of the worst culprits,you rarely commented on the 'stabbings' thread until recently especially where the perpetrators of the crimes were non white ,you are blind to non white crime and rarely condemn it. Please dont expect any further replies from me as I have already told you what i think of you. Ahhh, I see. As far as commenting on this thread, I think my position is fairly clear. I hope the authorities deal with the perpetrators to the fullest extent of the law. What I don't do is change my view according to the colour of their skin or their choice of god delusion. Unlike you it seems. Here you are Oldie,whats this if its not an accusation of me being a racist ?....I note that Aghast liked your post.
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Post by oldie on Aug 5, 2024 18:04:51 GMT
Looks like lots of 'knocks on doors' happening across country and people having words with bosses. News outlets reporting that on monitored far right web channels advice is being given on ditching phones and anything else that could be used in evidence and masking up when going out [bit late] Backing off of mosques at present as they are being protected. Boycotting taxi and food apps as they are often employing minorities. Some backtracking by outlets such as GBNews and TalkTV from their initial excusing of the riots by conflating disaffection with protest. Even the Daily Mail having a pop at Yaxley Lennon. Irony - many encouraging the use of masks were in the past encouraging people not to wear masks in the pandemic! I have wondered how easy it would be to disrupt the internet here ? that would cause absolute chaos. Pull the plug out of the router? 😂😂😂😂
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Post by oldie on Aug 5, 2024 18:13:38 GMT
Ahhh, I see. As far as commenting on this thread, I think my position is fairly clear. I hope the authorities deal with the perpetrators to the fullest extent of the law. What I don't do is change my view according to the colour of their skin or their choice of god delusion. Unlike you it seems. Here you are Oldie,whats this if its not an accusation of me being a racist ?....I note that Aghast liked your post. Why I responded, you said this "where the perpetrators of the crimes were non white ,you are blind to non white crime and rarely condemn it." You clearly look for non white crime, I don't. I didn't say you were racist, I could have called you something else (like the time you went for a walk on boxing day and counted new extensions as proof of an economic position😂) but I didn't. I just repeated back at you after you claimed I don't condemn non white crime, and I repeat, to say that of me you must look for it. Does that make you a racist? No I idea. Does it make you appear daft? Absolutely But you do it all the time so no change there is there. So I never called you a racist, I turned your own comments back on you. You don't like it? Don't say it
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Post by trymer on Aug 5, 2024 18:48:14 GMT
Here you are Oldie,whats this if its not an accusation of me being a racist ?....I note that Aghast liked your post. Why I responded, you said this "where the perpetrators of the crimes were non white ,you are blind to non white crime and rarely condemn it." You clearly look for non white crime, I don't. I didn't say you were racist, I could have called you something else (like the time you went for a walk on boxing day and counted new extensions as proof of an economic position😂) but I didn't. I just repeated back at you after you claimed I don't condemn non white crime, and I repeat, to say that of me you must look for it. Does that make you a racist? No I idea. Does it make you appear daft? Absolutely But you do it all the time so no change there is there. So I never called you a racist, I turned your own comments back on you. You don't like it? Don't say it Firstly it wasnt a boxing day it was a day when it had p1ssed down and where we usually walk the dogs was extremely muddy so we did a walk around the streets,I wasnt counting extensions I mentioned that in every street there were at least 2 lots of builders building extensions. I will let others read your post,its obvious that you were making out that I was racist but carefully not saying it. Now you say that I "clearly look for non white crime" I dont I was talking about the stories in the 'stabbings thread' ie Valdo Calocanne and other non white perpetrators, ffs their pictures are up so I cant help noticing that they are not white. One of your last posts you mentioned a 'far right' thug crying in court (how do you know he was 'far right' and not some drunken chav as so many of them were ?) but no mention of one of lefties in one of the videos in Bristol,black bloke shirtless,giving it the big one and then hiding behind some girl...more proof of your warped viewpoint.
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Post by francegas on Aug 5, 2024 18:54:16 GMT
Looks like lots of 'knocks on doors' happening across country and people having words with bosses. News outlets reporting that on monitored far right web channels advice is being given on ditching phones and anything else that could be used in evidence and masking up when going out [bit late] Backing off of mosques at present as they are being protected. Boycotting taxi and food apps as they are often employing minorities. Some backtracking by outlets such as GBNews and TalkTV from their initial excusing of the riots by conflating disaffection with protest. Even the Daily Mail having a pop at Yaxley Lennon. Irony - many encouraging the use of masks were in the past encouraging people not to wear masks in the pandemic! Biggest moment of the day was the report this evening of one of these stupid thugs up in the dock in court, when read the charge, starts crying and called out for his mum. Bloody hard these right wing thugs Amazing how these thugs have been charged and in the Dock in court before a judge so quickly yet two weeks on the Manchester Airport thugs still haven't even been charged despite the cctv footage for the world to see.
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Post by trymer on Aug 5, 2024 19:02:17 GMT
Biggest moment of the day was the report this evening of one of these stupid thugs up in the dock in court, when read the charge, starts crying and called out for his mum. Bloody hard these right wing thugs Amazing how these thugs have been charged and in the Dock in court before a judge so quickly yet two weeks on the Manchester Airport thugs still haven't even been charged despite the cctv footage for the world to see. They are making an example of the rioters,in a way I understand that because it needs to be stopped,however they are remanding them in custody whereas we have been seeing people being bailed for rape,GBH and assaulting the Police recently....thats going to get peoples backs up.
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