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Post by trymer on Aug 2, 2024 16:20:40 GMT
The BBC have a follow up story about the Southend machete gang fight earlier this week,they are a bit coy about who was involved (so it wasnt the 'EDL') but apparently two thirds of them came from London (out of towners again). Also on the BBC there is an article about how the 'far right' are organising the protests,pretty much a non story but interesting that they say the EDL hasnt actually existed for many years. See this is the crap that fuels tensions - the lies. The EDL has not been around for 10 years.Tommy Robinson left the EDL before it folded because it was taken over by the far right. It will be interesting to see that in that article they admit that the EDL is no longer around, but I guarantee that they will still go with the false narrative that it does if only for views and click bait in the near future. 'EDL' is just a name that Lib/Lab/Con and the media call people with different ideas to their own, years ago it would have been 'the National Front' 'neo-Nazis' 'Fascists'.....in fact they even made up scary names like 'Column 88' a secretive underground movement ,so secret that it didnt actually exist. When they call you a name like 'far right' or 'dangerous nasty racist' just ask them "why's that then "? or "prove it,show where I have been racist" they soon scurry away because really they are just bullies. |
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 2, 2024 16:22:40 GMT
The BBC have a follow up story about the Southend machete gang fight earlier this week,they are a bit coy about who was involved (so it wasnt the 'EDL') but apparently two thirds of them came from London (out of towners again). Also on the BBC there is an article about how the 'far right' are organising the protests,pretty much a non story but interesting that they say the EDL hasnt actually existed for many years. See this is the crap that fuels tensions - the lies. The EDL has not been around for 10 years.Tommy Robinson left the EDL before it folded because it was taken over by the far right. It will be interesting to see that in that article they admit that the EDL is no longer around, but I guarantee that they will still go with the false narrative that it does if only for views and click bait in the near future. Thing is ice, there were EDL chants during some of the riots. That obviously doesn't mean they operate anymore or organised the demonstrations, but some of the rioters obviously identify with the group. There's hardly any need for organised meetings anyway, social media allows the rest of the world to chip in their pearls of wisdom (allegedly over half of the twitter posts about Southport were from USA, like we could learn so much from there). By the way, who is further right than Tommy Robinson? |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 2, 2024 16:30:00 GMT
The so called Far Right groups and the Islamist Terrorist groups,eg those Anjem Choudary was involved in,would 'often' change names and have different names in different countries.
Trying to keep one step ahead of the chasing law I assume.
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Post by trymer on Aug 2, 2024 16:34:35 GMT
The so called Far Right groups and the Islamist Terrorist groups,eg those Anjem Choudary was involved in,would 'often' change names and have different names in different countries. Trying to keep one step ahead of the chasing law I assume. Lots of these groups such as the EDL werent organisations that you joined so anyone could say that "I am EDL" or chant EDL whilst rioting then the 'EDL' get the blame, half the people at the Southport fracas looked like p1ssed up chavs from nearby estates. |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 2, 2024 16:47:47 GMT
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Post by baldrick on Aug 2, 2024 16:49:51 GMT
Hubert Blaine Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff is the rumour on the street. I knew it 😃 It was Muhammad Smith. 😇 |
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Post by Icegas on Aug 2, 2024 17:12:34 GMT
See this is the crap that fuels tensions - the lies. The EDL has not been around for 10 years.Tommy Robinson left the EDL before it folded because it was taken over by the far right. It will be interesting to see that in that article they admit that the EDL is no longer around, but I guarantee that they will still go with the false narrative that it does if only for views and click bait in the near future. Thing is ice, there were EDL chants during some of the riots. That obviously doesn't mean they operate anymore or organised the demonstrations, but some of the rioters obviously identify with the group. There's hardly any need for organised meetings anyway, social media allows the rest of the world to chip in their pearls of wisdom (allegedly over half of the twitter posts about Southport were from USA, like we could learn so much from there). By the way, who is further right than Tommy Robinson? To be honest, I don't know as that's not what my political views are attracted to...Honestly I couldn't name anyone. I guess it terms of anyone with influence in this country then it must be him, then Farage? That said, how far Right is Tommy? He is no where near being "Far right" as people on here or the media has portrayed him as. See personally I'm not really into sides, left wing, right wing...blah..blah. I plant my political flag on the side of common sense, and what I feel is best for my country at this current time. Really I guess you would call me an old School labour supporter at heart, or just right of centre.But these past 10 years have definitely pushed me to the right. And the reason for that is due to the extreme, radical left, with all their bulls**t and bullying and woke crap that driven down our throats, constantly. If we could have a reboot,then I would never had voted for the Torries to get the Brexit done. |
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 2, 2024 17:33:02 GMT
Thing is ice, there were EDL chants during some of the riots. That obviously doesn't mean they operate anymore or organised the demonstrations, but some of the rioters obviously identify with the group. There's hardly any need for organised meetings anyway, social media allows the rest of the world to chip in their pearls of wisdom (allegedly over half of the twitter posts about Southport were from USA, like we could learn so much from there). By the way, who is further right than Tommy Robinson? To be honest, I don't know as that's not what my political views are attracted to...Honestly I couldn't name anyone. I guess it terms of anyone with influence in this country then it must be him, then Farage? That said, how far Right is Tommy? He is no where near being "Far right" as people on here or the media has portrayed him as. See personally I'm not really into sides, left wing, right wing...blah..blah. I plant my political flag on the side of common sense, and what I feel is best for my country at this current time. Really I guess you would call me an old School labour supporter at heart, or just right of centre.But these past 10 years have definitely pushed me to the right. And the reason for that is due to the extreme, radical left, with all their bulls**t and bullying and woke crap that driven down our throats, constantly. If we could have a reboot,then I would never had voted for the Torries to get the Brexit done. If Robinson wanted to be taken more seriously, seen as more legitimate, he could spend more time building relationships with Asian communities if it's only Islam he has issues with. It's either because he's racist that he doesn't, or because racists that follow him wouldn't like it. Why can't he say something nice ? Also, I think it's a shame he doesn't run his tanning salon in Luton anymore as he could call his gang the MWB (making whites browner) 😃 |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 2, 2024 17:42:09 GMT
To be honest, I don't know as that's not what my political views are attracted to...Honestly I couldn't name anyone. I guess it terms of anyone with influence in this country then it must be him, then Farage? That said, how far Right is Tommy? He is no where near being "Far right" as people on here or the media has portrayed him as. See personally I'm not really into sides, left wing, right wing...blah..blah. I plant my political flag on the side of common sense, and what I feel is best for my country at this current time. Really I guess you would call me an old School labour supporter at heart, or just right of centre.But these past 10 years have definitely pushed me to the right. And the reason for that is due to the extreme, radical left, with all their bulls**t and bullying and woke crap that driven down our throats, constantly. If we could have a reboot,then I would never had voted for the Torries to get the Brexit done. If Robinson wanted to be taken more seriously, seen as more legitimate, he could spend more time building relationships with Asian communities if it's only Islam he has issues with. It's either because he's racist that he doesn't, or because racists that follow him wouldn't like it. Why can't he say something nice ? Also, I think it's a shame he doesn't run his tanning salon in Luton anymore as he could call his gang the MWB (making whites browner) 😃 True, if he is being misrepresented then he has the ability to counter that. |
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Post by pop up pirate on Aug 2, 2024 17:52:24 GMT
If Robinson wanted to be taken more seriously, seen as more legitimate, he could spend more time building relationships with Asian communities if it's only Islam he has issues with. It's either because he's racist that he doesn't, or because racists that follow him wouldn't like it. Why can't he say something nice ? Also, I think it's a shame he doesn't run his tanning salon in Luton anymore as he could call his gang the MWB (making whites browner) 😃 True, if he is being misrepresented then he has the ability to counter that. We know he won't though. He has huge influence now and it's all hate. He used a so called celebration about being proud to be British to show his film full of lies. And hate. The only time I see him active in communities is when there's a sniff of Muslim wrongdoing, whether it be true or not. His posts are either praising the police for kicking Muslims, then complaining when police react to riots at vigils, to posting more grooming gang news. It's grim and it's racist, and it's being allowed into the mainstream again. |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 2, 2024 18:36:31 GMT
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Post by trymer on Aug 2, 2024 19:07:45 GMT
Interesting the areas that are covered, I saw a big banner outside the Miners welcoming Willem to a friendly with city..Rovers playing Cardiff who will bring good numbers,I think the potential for trouble is as much to do with football as it is for a demonstration...judging from the map the Police think so too. |
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Post by trymer on Aug 2, 2024 19:14:49 GMT
I was thinking about the events of the past few weeks that have ramped up the potential for civil disorder.
In no order, Manchester airport fracas,Harehill violence,large rally in London, young girls stabbed and killed, Southport violence, violence and protests Hartlepool,London,Aldershot.
I think that last weekends rally in London probably shocked Starmer with the huge numbers there,then the violence in Southport probably made him and his govt realise that there is a real risk of riots in cities as bad as 2011,thats why the Police are cracking down.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 2, 2024 19:34:54 GMT
Most Cities where protests are taking place this weekend have reinforced their Section 60 Stop and Search powers.
Wonder why?
Of course if the good old boys [and its seems mostly men] were going to protest peaceably they could be arrested beforehand.
Perhaps the Police could pretend they are Just Stop Oil protestors....
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Post by trymer on Aug 2, 2024 19:46:54 GMT
Most Cities where protests are taking place this weekend have reinforced their Section 60 Stop and Search powers. Wonder why? Of course if the good old boys [and its seems mostly men] were going to protest peaceably they could be arrested beforehand. Perhaps the Police could pretend they are Just Stop Oil protestors.... In this era of internet and mobile phones the demonstrations could be moved to a nearby town at an hours notice, i wonder if the Police can get their Section 60 orders in place so rapidly ? in future it could be a bit of cat and mouse. |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 2, 2024 19:49:33 GMT
Interesting the areas that are covered, I saw a big banner outside the Miners welcoming Willem to a friendly with city..Rovers playing Cardiff who will bring good numbers,I think the potential for trouble is as much to do with football as it is for a demonstration...judging from the map the Police think so too. Any Mosques in the zone you know of? |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 2, 2024 19:50:32 GMT
Most Cities where protests are taking place this weekend have reinforced their Section 60 Stop and Search powers. Wonder why? Of course if the good old boys [and its seems mostly men] were going to protest peaceably they could be arrested beforehand. Perhaps the Police could pretend they are Just Stop Oil protestors.... In this era of internet and mobile phones the demonstrations could be moved to a nearby town at an hours notice, i wonder if the Police can get their Section 60 orders in place so rapidly ? in future it could be a bit of cat and mouse. This Labour Government will bring in facial recognition security to stop white working class people from travelling freely Trymer. |
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Post by baldrick on Aug 2, 2024 19:50:41 GMT
Riot police are being attacked with stones and beer cans in Sunderland. Protesters are hurling the objects in a standoff outside a mosque, which is being protected by police.
In the meantime, "Nans against Nazis" in Liverpool.
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Post by trymer on Aug 2, 2024 19:55:06 GMT
Interesting the areas that are covered, I saw a big banner outside the Miners welcoming Willem to a friendly with city..Rovers playing Cardiff who will bring good numbers,I think the potential for trouble is as much to do with football as it is for a demonstration...judging from the map the Police think so too. Any Mosques in the zone you know of? I think that there is one in Totterdown,I see that theres a bit of the map that covers that area....the one in Southmead is more of prayer room and it isnt covered by the Section 60 area tbh I dont know where any others are apart from the one at the old supporters club in Eastville,thats not in the area either. |
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Post by trymer on Aug 2, 2024 20:01:01 GMT
I just looked and the mosque in Totterdown is still there,accoding to wikepedia its the biggest one in the south west,I cant see any trouble happening there the Police could block the streets leading to it quite easily...
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