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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 15:15:23 GMT
That's what gets to me. People completely defended this person after wrong rumours got out about his identity over these girls murders. The whole argument was HIJACKED by the radical, and extreme left, who made this a crusade on good people bringing up their views up on the attack,and uncontrolled immigration simply by calling everyone far-right that did so. You moan about being called far right about your opinions and slam those who simply disagree your opinion as 'far left'. That is called hypocrisy. Not exactly, firstly I wrote this as bait as I knew someone would be ignorant, and arrogant enough to challenge it. My two guesses were Oldie first, then you....So you win..🥇🏆 2nd, I didn't call any individual anything, until like myself and others on here who 'HAVE' been calling far- right and racist on here for there views.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 15:17:21 GMT
I'm insulted daily on here, so .. Proof or complain to mods, simples. I pointed out one small example out to you the other day you dismissed it as free speech.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 15:22:36 GMT
Does your commode have a secret USB slot on it? Why are you using electrical devices again? Really, are we getting that childish? Yes, and it's my right to do so, because Ive had enough of certain individuals childishness on here, who are bullies and freely get away with it. I will drag it down to that level if it continues.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 15:24:17 GMT
I'm insulted daily on here, so .. Well you can lead by example or show me where I've insulted you. I don't believe you have. We disagree, but that's it.
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Post by oldie on Aug 18, 2024 15:26:11 GMT
Really, are we getting that childish? Yes, and it's my right to do so, because Ive had enough of certain individuals childishness on here, who are bullies and freely get away with it. I will drag it down to that level if it continues. 😂😂
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 15:27:29 GMT
Nither do I.. I'm using a mobile, so just click on it and say no to joining and it's still works. Don't get that option. Once you click on the link and it loads up, click on the small x in the top right of the video and it appears.This starts it playing. I just tried it, it works.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 18, 2024 15:39:54 GMT
Oh I'm quite sure some liberals care more for their globalist hope's and being seen to be super virtuous than the victims of subhuman crime. There's a few around here for starters . Who is that aimed at? No matter how bad eg mass immigration gets,the rapes,the murders,thievery,bull s**t that we're financially better off,Britons behind terrorists on Council housing lists ,destruction of the UK,piece by piece etc,etc. We must tolerate,accept these horrors as the new norm . Victims of this are put down as collateral damage. All this so guilty feeling,virtue signalling middle class,Hamas supporting scum,globalists,No Borders group etc can carry on with their destruction of the nation state. The show must go on! My post was aimed at those that need to look in the mirror.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 18, 2024 15:48:17 GMT
You moan about being called far right about your opinions and slam those who simply disagree your opinion as 'far left'. That is called hypocrisy. Not exactly, firstly I wrote this as bait as I knew someone would be ignorant, and arrogant enough to challenge it. My two guesses were Oldie first, then you....So you win..🥇🏆 2nd, I didn't call any individual anything, until like myself and others on here who 'HAVE' been calling far- right and racist on here for there views. So you aren't on here to debate, just to play silly games, that explains a lot. Some of your views expressed are far right on the political scale. They are similar to the National Front of the 70s, and they were definitely far right. It isn't an insult, it's just where some of your views sit. If you don't like that fact, then you might want to consider your views compared to others.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 18, 2024 15:52:00 GMT
Really, are we getting that childish? Yes, and it's my right to do so, because Ive had enough of certain individuals childishness on here, who are bullies and freely get away with it. I will drag it down to that level if it continues. People disagree with you, not because they are childish, but their views are different. Sometimes you have to be adult and accept that your views are not the only ones.
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Post by oldie on Aug 18, 2024 15:52:12 GMT
No matter how bad eg mass immigration gets,the rapes,the murders,thievery,bull s**t that we're financially better off,Britons behind terrorists on Council housing lists ,destruction of the UK,piece by piece etc,etc. We must tolerate,accept these horrors as the new norm . Victims of this are put down as collateral damage. All this so guilty feeling,virtue signalling middle class,Hamas supporting scum,globalists,No Borders group etc can carry on with their destruction of the nation state. The show must go on! My post was aimed at those that need to look in the mirror. I was in Gloucester today. I didn't witness any of that. Strange that
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 18, 2024 15:53:26 GMT
Proof or complain to mods, simples. I pointed out one small example out to you the other day you dismissed it as free speech. Put in a complaint to mods showing where someone has called you a 'racist' and it will be dealt with. Being told you have far right views is not the same as being called a racist.
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Post by baldrick on Aug 18, 2024 16:02:48 GMT
No matter how bad eg mass immigration gets,the rapes,the murders,thievery,bull s**t that we're financially better off,Britons behind terrorists on Council housing lists ,destruction of the UK,piece by piece etc,etc. We must tolerate,accept these horrors as the new norm . Victims of this are put down as collateral damage. All this so guilty feeling,virtue signalling middle class,Hamas supporting scum,globalists,No Borders group etc can carry on with their destruction of the nation state. The show must go on! My post was aimed at those that need to look in the mirror. So nobody on here then. Good.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 16:16:37 GMT
That's what gets to me. People completely defended this person after wrong rumours got out about his identity over these girls murders. The whole argument was HIJACKED by the radical,and extreme left, who made this a crusade on good people bringing up their views up on the attack,and uncontrolled immigration simply by calling everyone far-right that did so. You could not have had any views on the attack. You didn't know who did it, you didn't know anything about the victims, you didn't know anything about what action the police were taking. Instead you hijacked the tragedy of the murder of these children to jump up and down shouting about immigration. Honestly, you should be ashamed. First, I never shared any links of any fake names of the attacker on here. I only highlighted the issues with MASS immigration to our country. When the attacks first happened, news broke out that something was being kept from the British people intentionally.Now wiser heads would have waited ,but not everyone is a wise head after 3 girls had been chopped up at a dance party on our streets. False information came out online saying that the attacker had arrived on a boat to the UK as an illegal immigrant.But the media and the police , who both think they are very clever at this, withheld information even though they had arrested him at the site of the crime, so speculation grew. They created this speculation. Rightly or wrongly, this drew people out on to the streets after coming to an conclusion,that this attack was done by a immigrant,or a Muslim. Why is that?... Is it because they normally are? Well,could the reason also be, because EVERYONE has seen this story played out before? Twenty years of immigrants,or Islamic bombings and attacks on this country and throughout Europe. It was only 7 years ago that a Libyan migrant bombed Manchester arena.It was only in 2017 that a illegal immigrant who's asylum claim had been rejected went in a killing spree on London. People don't forget that,and those 3 babies getting killed, was the stall the broke the camels back. For years we voted for our boarder to be controlled and every government has ignored the British people's requests,and the loons on the left freely wanting to let more refugees, and illegal immigrants in to this country, regardless of how out of control our country is right now because of it! No, it's people like you who should be ashamed for calling innocent people 'far -right' or Nazis, purely for bringing this up situation up.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 16:25:07 GMT
Not exactly, firstly I wrote this as bait as I knew someone would be ignorant, and arrogant enough to challenge it. My two guesses were Oldie first, then you....So you win..🥇🏆 2nd, I didn't call any individual anything, until like myself and others on here who 'HAVE' been calling far- right and racist on here for there views. So you aren't on here to debate, just to play silly games, that explains a lot. Some of your views expressed are far right on the political scale. They are similar to the National Front of the 70s, and they were definitely far right. It isn't an insult, it's just where some of your views sit. If you don't like that fact, then you might want to consider your views compared to others. I'm not on here to play games,never have been, so don't try to insult me. But it gets to a point where I've tried to have respectable, honest and genuine conversations on here, but I've learnt that this is not always possible from some people who are bullies by nature, and continue to throw mud from the safety of their computer screen at anyone that they disagree with.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 16:29:00 GMT
I pointed out one small example out to you the other day you dismissed it as free speech. Put in a complaint to mods showing where someone has called you a 'racist' and it will be dealt with. Being told you have far right views is not the same as being called a racist. Really...? I disagree. Not surprising as you do it yourself, like in your last post about me and it's tone.
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Post by oldie on Aug 18, 2024 16:42:52 GMT
You could not have had any views on the attack. You didn't know who did it, you didn't know anything about the victims, you didn't know anything about what action the police were taking. Instead you hijacked the tragedy of the murder of these children to jump up and down shouting about immigration. Honestly, you should be ashamed. First, I never shared any links of any fake names of the attacker on here. I only highlighted the issues with MASS immigration to our country. When the attacks first happened, news broke out that something was being kept from the British people intentionally.Now wiser heads would have waited ,but not everyone is a wise head after 3 girls had been chopped up at a dance party on our streets. False information came out online saying that the attacker had arrived on a boat to the UK as an illegal immigrant.But the media and the police , who both think they are very clever at this, withheld information even though they had arrested him at the site of the crime, so speculation grew. They created this speculation. Rightly or wrongly, this drew people out on to the streets after coming to an conclusion,that this attack was done by a immigrant,or a Muslim. Why is that?... Is it because they normally are? Well,could the reason also be, because EVERYONE has seen this story played out before? Twenty years of immigrants,or Islamic bombings and attacks on this country and throughout Europe. It was only 7 years ago that a Libyan migrant bombed Manchester arena.It was only in 2017 that a illegal immigrant who's asylum claim had been rejected went in a killing spree on London. People don't forget that,and those 3 babies getting killed, was the stall the broke the camels back. For years we voted for our boarder to be controlled and every government has ignored the British people's requests,and the loons on the left freely wanting to let more refugees, and illegal immigrants in to this country, regardless of how out of control our country is right now because of it! No, it's people like you who should be ashamed for calling innocent people 'far -right' or Nazis, purely for bringing this up situation up. And the people who accentuated these false rumours were Andrew Tate, Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson. You support at least two of those people. The rest of what you have written is contradictory and confused. But I am glad you wrote it. It just confirms the absolutely ill considered and utterly irrational views that you hold
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 16:46:44 GMT
First, I never shared any links of any fake names of the attacker on here. I only highlighted the issues with MASS immigration to our country. When the attacks first happened, news broke out that something was being kept from the British people intentionally.Now wiser heads would have waited ,but not everyone is a wise head after 3 girls had been chopped up at a dance party on our streets. False information came out online saying that the attacker had arrived on a boat to the UK as an illegal immigrant.But the media and the police , who both think they are very clever at this, withheld information even though they had arrested him at the site of the crime, so speculation grew. They created this speculation. Rightly or wrongly, this drew people out on to the streets after coming to an conclusion,that this attack was done by a immigrant,or a Muslim. Why is that?... Is it because they normally are? Well,could the reason also be, because EVERYONE has seen this story played out before? Twenty years of immigrants,or Islamic bombings and attacks on this country and throughout Europe. It was only 7 years ago that a Libyan migrant bombed Manchester arena.It was only in 2017 that a illegal immigrant who's asylum claim had been rejected went in a killing spree on London. People don't forget that,and those 3 babies getting killed, was the stall the broke the camels back. For years we voted for our boarder to be controlled and every government has ignored the British people's requests,and the loons on the left freely wanting to let more refugees, and illegal immigrants in to this country, regardless of how out of control our country is right now because of it! No, it's people like you who should be ashamed for calling innocent people 'far -right' or Nazis, purely for bringing this up situation up. And the people who accentuated these false rumours were Andrew Tate, Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson. You support at least two of those people. The rest of what you have written is contradictory and confused. But I am glad you wrote it. It just confirms the absolutely ill considered and utterly irrational views that you hold Contradictory how?
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 17:59:35 GMT
Yes, and it's my right to do so, because Ive had enough of certain individuals childishness on here, who are bullies and freely get away with it. I will drag it down to that level if it continues. People disagree with you, not because they are childish, but their views are different. Sometimes you have to be adult and accept that your views are not the only ones. Cheshire.. with respect, please don't patronize me as I don't need you to explain the laws of the Universe to me. From day one, I've always been open to different viewpoints and stances in conversations on here, and to be corrected if I'm wrong. This goes all the way back the old official Rovers forum,and when I was on ArseChat. Ive defend my opinions at great length as I believe I have the truth on my side. If I'm wrong, I'm willing to admit that I'm wrong, unlike others on here are.As I know I'm not perfect.Im also perfectly fine if others disagree with me. The only time my back gets up is when 'keyboard warriors' on here, attack people on the other side of an argument by using insults,or by using virtue signaling tactics and shout down anything you say by insulting and calling them racist or fascist. Thats when I get childish, as they are very good at what they do, as it mostly goes undetected or, ignored on here.
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Post by oldie on Aug 18, 2024 18:53:03 GMT
People disagree with you, not because they are childish, but their views are different. Sometimes you have to be adult and accept that your views are not the only ones. Cheshire.. with respect, please don't patronize me as I don't need you to explain the laws of the Universe to me. From day one, I've always been open to different viewpoints and stances in conversations on here, and to be corrected if I'm wrong. This goes all the way back the old official Rovers forum,and when I was on ArseChat. Ive defend my opinions at great length as I believe I have the truth on my side. If I'm wrong, I'm willing to admit that I'm wrong, unlike others on here are.As I know I'm not perfect.Im also perfectly fine if others disagree with me. The only time my back gets up is when 'keyboard warriors' on here, attack people on the other side of an argument by using insults,or by using virtue signaling tactics and shout down anything you say by insulting and calling them racist or fascist. Thats when I get childish, as they are very good at what they do, as it mostly goes undetected or, ignored on here. Just for you Ice "Through early morning fog I see visions of the things to be the pains that are withheld for me I realize and I can see... That suicide is painless It brings on many changes and I can take or leave it if I please. I try to find a way to make all our little joys relate without that ever-present hate but now I know that it's too late, and..." From one of the greatest films
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Post by Icegas on Aug 18, 2024 19:16:31 GMT
Cheshire.. with respect, please don't patronize me as I don't need you to explain the laws of the Universe to me. From day one, I've always been open to different viewpoints and stances in conversations on here, and to be corrected if I'm wrong. This goes all the way back the old official Rovers forum,and when I was on ArseChat. Ive defend my opinions at great length as I believe I have the truth on my side. If I'm wrong, I'm willing to admit that I'm wrong, unlike others on here are.As I know I'm not perfect.Im also perfectly fine if others disagree with me. The only time my back gets up is when 'keyboard warriors' on here, attack people on the other side of an argument by using insults,or by using virtue signaling tactics and shout down anything you say by insulting and calling them racist or fascist. Thats when I get childish, as they are very good at what they do, as it mostly goes undetected or, ignored on here. Just for you Ice "Through early morning fog I see visions of the things to be the pains that are withheld for me I realize and I can see... That suicide is painless It brings on many changes and I can take or leave it if I please. I try to find a way to make all our little joys relate without that ever-present hate but now I know that it's too late, and..." From one of the greatest films Firstly,I've stated on here before, that my father committed suicide by jumping off the Clifton suspension bridge in December of 2009. So I don't take kindly,nor am I willing to accept any of your weird, attempts at trying to be humourous in regards this subject that you have quoted. Have some class.. not for myself, nor my father, but the subject in general.
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