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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 11, 2024 20:48:36 GMT
I remember the gun ban in the UK. I had some friends who belonged to gun clubs and used to shoot for pleasure on the ranges. The gun ban only really affected these people, because their weapons were registered. The criminals still kept their weapons ! In fact, gun crime in the UK is now bigger than it was before the gun ban! The US is a completely different kettle of fish. The sheer amount of weapons in the public domain makes virtually any attempt at gun control pointless. The authorities just don't have the resources to control it. I remember the first firearms amnesty here (just) there was a Giles cartoon of some granny driving a German tank into a police station,the amount of weapons including MPs was amazing, however the Liverpool Skorpion shootings and that one some years back in Birmingham with a MAC 10 jus show how easy it is for criminals to access deadly weapons. As you say the law abiding people with registered weapons have been penalised (bound to happen after Dunblane and Hungerford) but how can they stop criminals from buying smuggled weapons ? its the same as drugs,supply and demand,probably get much worse with all the weapons floating around in Ukraine, need draconian sentences for smuggling,selling or possession of firearms and the rope for using them in murders. The Balkens conflict was the catalist for the explosion of weapons throughout Europe.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 13, 2024 22:18:08 GMT
The gun restrictions on firearms works in the UK with 29 firearm homicides in 2023 period. This compares with over 18,874 in the USA. However there was nearly the same number of suicides from shooting in the US. The overall number is however coming down.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 14, 2024 5:06:07 GMT
Locals living in high-rise block of Luton flats 'heard bangs' before police found three people 'shot' dead - as man, 18, is arrested..by Ryan Hooper
i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/13/89639317-13847059-image-a-14_1726230808864.jpg A police car outside the property where the bodies were found as a man 18 is being questionedNeighbours living in a block of flats where three people were found dead said they heard 'bangs' that sounded like 'gun shots'. Detectives have launched a triple murder probe following the grisly discovery inside the 15-storey high-rise block in Luton, Bedfordshire, at 5.30am on friday. All three were pronounced dead at the scene, leading to armed police swarming the Leabank tower block and surrounding area. Cops have arrested an 18-year-old man on suspicion of murder, with Bedfordshire Police announcing a weapon has since been recovered. The force refused to confirm what weapon was recovered, when asked by MailOnline. However, neighbours have described hearing loud 'bangs' which they feared were gun shots. Police were first scrambled to reports of concerns for welfare at the flat in Leabank, off Wauluds Bank Drive. Three people were found with injuries before later being declared dead at the scene, Bedfordshire Police said. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/14/89641301-13847059-image-a-56_1726233907657.jpgBedfordshire Police said the deaths are being treated as an isolated incident. In a press briefing this afternoon, Assistant Chief Constable John Murphy said that a weapon had been recovered during a search of the area. 'That 18-year-old man is currently in custody at Luton Police Station,' he said. 'We've also been conducting a number of searches in the area and those searches have resulted in the recovery of a weapon. 'At this stage I'm not in a position to go into the detail around the age or ethnicity or any further details about the victims while we're in the process of contacting the next of kin and our full focus at the moment is on supporting the families.' He said the incident appeared to 'very isolated', adding: 'At this stage we are not looking for anybody else in relation to the homicide investigation.'
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Post by baselswh on Sept 14, 2024 6:27:01 GMT
Locals living in high-rise block of Luton flats 'heard bangs' before police found three people 'shot' dead - as man, 18, is arrested..by Ryan Hooper
i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/13/89639317-13847059-image-a-14_1726230808864.jpg A police car outside the property where the bodies were found as a man 18 is being questionedNeighbours living in a block of flats where three people were found dead said they heard 'bangs' that sounded like 'gun shots'. Detectives have launched a triple murder probe following the grisly discovery inside the 15-storey high-rise block in Luton, Bedfordshire, at 5.30am on friday. All three were pronounced dead at the scene, leading to armed police swarming the Leabank tower block and surrounding area. Cops have arrested an 18-year-old man on suspicion of murder, with Bedfordshire Police announcing a weapon has since been recovered. The force refused to confirm what weapon was recovered, when asked by MailOnline. However, neighbours have described hearing loud 'bangs' which they feared were gun shots. Police were first scrambled to reports of concerns for welfare at the flat in Leabank, off Wauluds Bank Drive. Three people were found with injuries before later being declared dead at the scene, Bedfordshire Police said. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/14/89641301-13847059-image-a-56_1726233907657.jpgBedfordshire Police said the deaths are being treated as an isolated incident. In a press briefing this afternoon, Assistant Chief Constable John Murphy said that a weapon had been recovered during a search of the area. 'That 18-year-old man is currently in custody at Luton Police Station,' he said. 'We've also been conducting a number of searches in the area and those searches have resulted in the recovery of a weapon. 'At this stage I'm not in a position to go into the detail around the age or ethnicity or any further details about the victims while we're in the process of contacting the next of kin and our full focus at the moment is on supporting the families.' He said the incident appeared to 'very isolated', adding: 'At this stage we are not looking for anybody else in relation to the homicide investigation.' "Isolated incident",said the Police. Phew!
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Post by pop up pirate on Sept 17, 2024 10:16:26 GMT
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Post by oldie on Sept 17, 2024 11:05:41 GMT
Well, there is a right charmer for you.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 17, 2024 11:17:12 GMT
I'm sure he only had them for peaceful protest!
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Post by trymer on Sept 18, 2024 21:02:05 GMT
The gun restrictions on firearms works in the UK with 29 firearm homicides in 2023 period. This compares with over 18,874 in the USA. However there was nearly the same number of suicides from shooting in the US. The overall number is however coming down. I have to say that with the gun laws in the UK I find 29 firearm homicides quite shocking,especially if you compare the number of guns in the USA to the number of guns here.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 29, 2024 6:30:19 GMT
Manhunt underway after 17 people killed in South Africa mass shooting..by Frances Mao and Nomsa Maseko, BBC Newsreportafrique.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/images-115-946x630.jpegSeventeen people have been killed in a mass shooting in a remote South African town with a manhunt under way to find the perpetrators, police say. Two homesteads on the same street in the town of Lusikisiki, in the Eastern Cape, were targeted, police said, with 12 women and one man killed in one location, and three women and one man at a second location. An 18th victim is in a critical condition in hospital, the South Africa Police Service said. The police minister, Senzo Mchunu, is expected to visit the area where the attack occurred. Officials said the victims were relatives and neighbours in Nyathi village, Ngobozana in Lusikisiki. South African media reported the victims had been gathered at the houses to prepare to attend a traditional mourning ceremony for a mother and daughter who were murdered a year ago. They had been packing goods and presents, including furniture, for the event when the attack occurred on Friday night, according to the media reports. "We heard gunshots and doors that were kicked," Nomnikelo Ndlovu, one of the residents who was able to hide during the attack, told state broadcaster SABC. "We tried to hide and three people were shot. We are still traumatised." In a statement, the police minister said that there had been a total of 19 people sleeping in two homes in the same yard at one of the shooting locations. Mchunu added that there had been six survivors at that homestead - four women, a man, and a two-month-old child. A police spokesperson said earlier that the child was uninjured, but had been taken to hospital as a precaution. There were no survivors at the other homestead. Mchunu said a team of detectives and forensic experts, including crime scene managers from Pretoria, had been deployed "to piece all [the] evidence together in a bid to apprehend these brutal criminals". Officials have yet to determine the motive behind the attack or make any arrests. Regional cabinet member for community safety, Xolile Nqatha, told SABC that he hoped the critically injured man would make a "speedy" recovery, as "his recovery can help us shed more light" on the shooting. He also suggested that the assailants may have been known to the victims. South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world, according to the latest figures from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. There were more than 27,000 murders in 2022 - amounting to 45 people per 100,000, out of a population of almost 60 million. By comparison, the US rate is six per 100,000.
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Post by trymer on Sept 29, 2024 8:41:55 GMT
Manhunt underway after 17 people killed in South Africa mass shooting..by Frances Mao and Nomsa Maseko, BBC Newsreportafrique.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/images-115-946x630.jpegSeventeen people have been killed in a mass shooting in a remote South African town with a manhunt under way to find the perpetrators, police say. Two homesteads on the same street in the town of Lusikisiki, in the Eastern Cape, were targeted, police said, with 12 women and one man killed in one location, and three women and one man at a second location. An 18th victim is in a critical condition in hospital, the South Africa Police Service said. The police minister, Senzo Mchunu, is expected to visit the area where the attack occurred. Officials said the victims were relatives and neighbours in Nyathi village, Ngobozana in Lusikisiki. South African media reported the victims had been gathered at the houses to prepare to attend a traditional mourning ceremony for a mother and daughter who were murdered a year ago. They had been packing goods and presents, including furniture, for the event when the attack occurred on Friday night, according to the media reports. "We heard gunshots and doors that were kicked," Nomnikelo Ndlovu, one of the residents who was able to hide during the attack, told state broadcaster SABC. "We tried to hide and three people were shot. We are still traumatised." In a statement, the police minister said that there had been a total of 19 people sleeping in two homes in the same yard at one of the shooting locations. Mchunu added that there had been six survivors at that homestead - four women, a man, and a two-month-old child. A police spokesperson said earlier that the child was uninjured, but had been taken to hospital as a precaution. There were no survivors at the other homestead. Mchunu said a team of detectives and forensic experts, including crime scene managers from Pretoria, had been deployed "to piece all [the] evidence together in a bid to apprehend these brutal criminals". Officials have yet to determine the motive behind the attack or make any arrests. Regional cabinet member for community safety, Xolile Nqatha, told SABC that he hoped the critically injured man would make a "speedy" recovery, as "his recovery can help us shed more light" on the shooting. He also suggested that the assailants may have been known to the victims. South Africa has one of the highest murder rates in the world, according to the latest figures from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. There were more than 27,000 murders in 2022 - amounting to 45 people per 100,000, out of a population of almost 60 million. By comparison, the US rate is six per 100,000. I saw this yesterday, the murder rate 45 per 100,000 and USA 6 per 100,000 ! 'Regional cabinet member for community safety' hmmm I hope that his pay isnt performance related.
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 2, 2024 11:43:50 GMT
Have I Got News For You star and Private Eye editor Ian Hislop 'targeted in gun attack' after his taxi was 'shot at' near his offices during rush hour..by Jon Brady
i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/02/07/90353835-13914907-image-a-16_1727849241638.jpg Private Eye is as renowned for its satirical articles, jokes and cartoons as it is for its in-depth investigations into the rich and powerfulPrivate Eye editor Ian Hislop was targeted by a gunman who shot at his taxi last night during rush hour. The Have I Got News For You star, known for his exchanges with rival team captain Paul Merton, was in the back seat of the black cab when a firearm was discharged. The bullet struck the rear window of the hackney carriage shortly after 10am on Tuesday as the car sat in traffic in Soho, central London. Both escaped without injury, according to reports. The incident took place on Dean Street close to its junction with Oxford Street - close to where Private Eye's offices are located. The cab driver told detectives the car was at a standstill in traffic when he heard a noise akin to something striking the window. Police conducted a search of the area, closed roads, and are reviewing CCTV footage. Mr Hislop has been the editor of Private Eye since 1986. The weekly magazine is as famed for its satirical pieces and cartoons as it is for its in-depth investigations into politicians and City businesses. However, police have reportedly stressed that they are keeping an open mind as to any motive for the attack. A Metropolitan Police spokesperson told the Guardian, which first reported on the incident: 'Police were called at 10.10am on Tuesday, 1st October to a report of a firearms discharge on Dean Street, Westminster. 'The driver of a London black taxi reported he was stationary in traffic when a shot was fired towards his vehicle, striking the window. 'There were no injuries. An investigation has been launched.' MailOnline has contacted the Met and Private Eye for further comment. During his tenure as editor of the Eye, Ian Hislop is believed to have become one of the most sued men in English legal history. i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/02/07/90354425-13914907-Te-a-18_1727850127754.jpg The incident took place on Dean Street, close to the offices of Private Eye magazineThe magazine's fearlessness in printing allegations against the rich and powerful has made it a magnet for libel lawsuits brought by those who have the dubious honour of featuring in its pages. It reportedly sets a quarter of its budget aside to pay out in legal cases. Mr Hislop told the Independent in 2010: 'When I took over, I made a number of very pompous statements about how I was really going to cut the libel bills and this shoddy approach to libel wasn't going to exist any more. 'Then over the coming years, I managed to enter the Guinness Book of Records for the most money ever lost and hit a number of just huge payouts.'
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 22, 2024 13:39:53 GMT
Chris Kaba: MoD offers military support after armed Met officers turn in weapons..By Aoife Walsh & Joe Inwood, BBC News.
i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/article30986533.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/0_Chris-Kaba.jpgChris Kaba was shot through the windscreen of a carThe Ministry of Defence is offering armed soldiers to support London police after dozens of Met officers handed in their weapons. More than 100 police officers turned in permits allowing them to carry firearms, a source told the BBC. The Met Police said the action was being taken after an officer was charged with the murder of unarmed Chris Kaba, 24. He died after being shot in south London last year, A Met Police officer appeared in court on Thursday. In a statement, the Met said some officers were "worried" about how the charging decision "impacts on them". The MoD said it received a request - known as Military Aid to the Civil Authorities (MACA) - from the Home Office to "provide routine counter-terrorism contingency support to the Metropolitan Police, should it be needed". A MACA is offered to the police or the NHS in emergency situations - the military helped medical staff in the Covid pandemic and covered for striking border staff and paramedics last year. The Met said it was a "contingency option" that would only be used "in specific circumstances and where an appropriate policing response was not available". Military staff would not be used "in a routine policing capacity", it added. The move comes after Home Secretary Suella Braverman called for a review into armed policing. She said people "depend on our brave firearms officers to protect us". "In the interest of public safety they have to make split-second decisions under extraordinary pressures." She said that officers have her "full backing". "I will do everything in my power to support them," she added. In a letter to the home secretary, Met Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley welcomed the review, writing that a system where officers are investigated for "safely pursuing subjects" should not have been allowed to develop. Sir Mark said he would "make no comment" on any ongoing legal matters, but "the issues raised in this letter go back further". He said firearms officers are concerned that they will face years of legal proceedings, "even if they stick to the tactics and training they have been given". Previous reviews have not delivered change, he added. "Officers need sufficient legal protection to enable them to do their job and keep the public safe, and the confidence that it will be applied consistently and without fear or favour," he wrote. But in instances where officers act improperly, Sir Mark said the system "needs to move swiftly" rather than "tying itself in knots pursuing good officers through multiple legal processes". Mr Kaba died after a police operation in Streatham Hill on 5 September 2022. He was hit by a gunshot fired by a Met Police officer into the vehicle he was driving and died in hospital the following day, an inquest was told. The construction worker was months away from becoming a father when he was shot. His death prompted a number of protests. Update: Chris Kaba shot man in nightclub days before his death & Moment Chris Kaba tried to gun down gang rival in nightclub shooting just days before he was killed by Met Police marksman Martyn Blake..2 links to these reports below:www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyly5122yeowww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13987257/Chris-Kaba-video-nightclub-shooting.html
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Post by baselswh on Oct 22, 2024 14:10:14 GMT
PC Martin Blake has been found not guilty of killing gangster Chris Kaba.
Very pleased to hear it.
Kaba was just another gun shooting baby brain thug and our streets are a bit safer with him dead.
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 22, 2024 15:11:43 GMT
Another POS removed. The next question is just why the Police Officer was named in court?
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Post by baselswh on Oct 22, 2024 15:21:50 GMT
Another POS removed. The next question is just why the Police Officer was named in court? To keep Kabas community happy? Police are scared of Islam too.
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Post by francegas on Oct 22, 2024 16:46:03 GMT
Another POS removed. The next question is just why the Police Officer was named in court? Exactly. Now he has a bounty on his head. I'd shake that Police Officer by the hand and thank him for removing a scum bag from the community and saving the tax payer £1000s from a prison sentence. If he'd been found guilty of murder who in their right mind would want to join the Police Firearms dept through fear of just doing their job.
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2024 12:10:39 GMT
BBC reporting black communities in south London have been left traumatised by the courts verdict that PC Blake is not guilty of murdering the gangster.
Also,apparently there is a bounty of £10,000 on PC Blake's head and he is now in hiding.
The people putting up £10,000 for Blake's head,need locking up.
Luckily the Law is'nt dealing with Islam,or they would still be at the talking to community leaders stage ( imans) ,asking for forgiveness.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 6, 2024 16:41:37 GMT
BBC reporting black communities in south London have been left traumatised by the courts verdict that PC Blake is not guilty of murdering the gangster. Also,apparently there is a bounty of £10,000 on PC Blake's head and he is now in hiding. The people putting up £10,000 for Blake's head,need locking up. Luckily the Law is'nt dealing with Islam,or they would still be at the talking to community leaders stage ( imans) ,asking for forgiveness. Interesting. From this thread looks like the 'usual suspects' from those on the left of the political spectrum remain quiet on the issue. Which is good. The acquittal was bleeding obvious and common sense has prevailed. However the woke BBC are still stoking the fires of an allegedly racist Police force. Shameful. www.policeconduct.gov.uk/news/iopc-statement-response-panorama-documentary-chris-kaba-shootingCommunities in south London have been traumatised by gangs, gun crime and violent drug dealers for years. I do not believe they have been traumitised when one of the members of such a gang, guilty of gun crime and violence, has permanently been removed from the streets. And I really don't care if the violent thug that has been shot is black, white, chinese or eskimo. Other ethnicities available on request. It is not about race. But the BBC continue their extreme far left, 'everything is racist' narrative.
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Post by baldrick on Nov 6, 2024 16:52:45 GMT
BBC reporting black communities in south London have been left traumatised by the courts verdict that PC Blake is not guilty of murdering the gangster. Also,apparently there is a bounty of £10,000 on PC Blake's head and he is now in hiding. The people putting up £10,000 for Blake's head,need locking up. Luckily the Law is'nt dealing with Islam,or they would still be at the talking to community leaders stage ( imans) ,asking for forgiveness. Interesting. From this thread looks like the 'usual suspects' from those on the left of the political spectrum remain quiet on the issue. Which is good. The acquittal was bleeding obvious and common sense has prevailed. However the woke BBC are still stoking the fires of an allegedly racist Police force. Shameful. www.policeconduct.gov.uk/news/iopc-statement-response-panorama-documentary-chris-kaba-shootingCommunities in south London have been traumatised by gangs, gun crime and violent drug dealers for years. I do not believe they have been traumitised when one of the members of such a gang, guilty of gun crime and violence, has permanently been removed from the streets. And I really don't care if the violent thug that has been shot is black, white, chinese or eskimo. Other ethnicities available on request. It is not about race. But the BBC continue their extreme far left, 'everything is racist' narrative. I mentioned the anonymity rule change on the Labour thread.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 6, 2024 16:58:26 GMT
Interesting. From this thread looks like the 'usual suspects' from those on the left of the political spectrum remain quiet on the issue. Which is good. The acquittal was bleeding obvious and common sense has prevailed. However the woke BBC are still stoking the fires of an allegedly racist Police force. Shameful. www.policeconduct.gov.uk/news/iopc-statement-response-panorama-documentary-chris-kaba-shootingCommunities in south London have been traumatised by gangs, gun crime and violent drug dealers for years. I do not believe they have been traumitised when one of the members of such a gang, guilty of gun crime and violence, has permanently been removed from the streets. And I really don't care if the violent thug that has been shot is black, white, chinese or eskimo. Other ethnicities available on request. It is not about race. But the BBC continue their extreme far left, 'everything is racist' narrative. I mentioned the anonymity rule change on the Labour thread. I should have mentioned that. Fair play to Yvette Cooper on this one.
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