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Post by bluetornados on Aug 14, 2024 7:55:03 GMT
US police officer charged with fatally shooting pregnant woman..Max Matza, BBC News.
i2-prod.themirror.com/incoming/article643848.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/0_SDC_MDG_CHP_68199JPG.jpg Ta'Kiya Young was fatally shot in the chestA police officer accused of shooting a pregnant woman in Ohio has been charged with her murder. Ta'Kiya Young, 21, was around 25 weeks pregnant at the time of her death last August. Her unborn daughter also died in the police shooting. On Tuesday, a grand jury in the city of Columbus found sufficient evidence to file charges against Blendon Township police officer Connor Grubb for murder, involuntary manslaughter and assault. Bodycam video of the fatal encounter released last year showed police attempting to stop Ms Young from driving away so they could question her about alleged shoplifting. In the video she appeared to drive toward the officer who fired the fatal shot as he commanded her to exit the car. Ms Young was suspected of shoplifting alcohol from a Kroger grocery store, investigators say. Lawyers for Mr Grubb say he fired in self-defence. "When viewed through the eyes of a reasonable police officer, the evidence will show that our client's actions were justified, when there is video evidence that Officer Grubb was being hit by a moving vehicle," said his lawyers Mark Collins and Kaitlyn Stephens. The local chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) labour union on Tuesday slammed the indictment as "politically motivated". "We stand firm in advocating for an impartial justice system that focuses on truth and facts, not politics," said chapter president Brian Steel. "Like all law enforcement officers, Officer Grubb had to make a split-second decision, a reality all too familiar for those who serve to protect our communities," he also said, adding decisions were often made under "extreme pressure and often in life-threatening situations". i2-prod.themirror.com/incoming/article643847.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/0_TaKiya-Young-24226855803017.jpgConnor Grubb, who was indicted Tuesday, Aug. 13th, 2024, on murder and other charges in the shooting of Ta'Kiya YoungBlendon Township Police Chief John Belford said in a video statement that it was immediately beginning a disciplinary process where it would review the facts and then decide the best course of action against the officer. "I want to be very clear: we're not passing any judgment on whether Officer Grubb acted properly. We haven't seen the evidence," Chief Belford said. A lawyer representing Ms Young's family, Sean Walton, called the arrest a "solemn victory in the pursuit of justice" and "yet another symbol of the urgent need for reform in police conduct and accountability". “The actions that led to the death of Ta’Kiya - the unnecessary aggression, the chilling commands that amounted to ‘comply or die’ - were there for us all to witness in dreadful clarity," he said. Ms Young's grandmother, Nadine Young, told CBS News that the past year had been very difficult for the family, including Ms Young's two young sons. "It's been agony, it's been like a whirlwind of hurt and pain," she said. Video from the 24 August 2023 encounter shows the two officers speaking with Ms Young for about one minute before the shot is fired. Both officers were in the car park for an unrelated call. Ms Young was the mother of two boys, aged six and three. She was due to give birth in November. i2-prod.themirror.com/incoming/article643849.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/1_SDC_MDG_CHP_68201JPG.jpgBody camera video of police officers approaching Ta’Kiya Young
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 4, 2024 21:04:18 GMT
14-year-old Colt Gray is in custody after four killed in Georgia high school shooting..Report by Nathan Williamsichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/d64d/live/5b3dc100-6aea-11ef-b970-9f202720b57a.jpgA 14-year-old boy is to be charged with murder after four people were killed and nine injured in a shooting at a Georgia high school on Wednesday. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said those killed were two pupils and two teachers at Apalachee High School in Winder, Barrow County. The boy, named as Colt Gray, a pupil, was arrested by two officers on the school campus and was in custody, a spokesman said. He will be charged as an adult. Local sheriff Judd Smith described the attack as "pure evil". Officers first recieved reports of a shooting at the school of around 1,900 pupils around 10:20 local time (13:20BST). "Within minutes law enforcement was on scene, as well as two school resource officers assigned to the school who immediately encountered the subject," the sheriff said in a news conference. "The subject immediately surrendered. He gave up, got on the ground. And the officers took him into custody." Officials said the suspect is a student at the school. They said no motive had been identified and "we don’t know of any targets at this point". They have not said what type of weapon was used, or how many bullets were fired. Dozens of police officers swiftly responded to the school, which was placed on lockdown and cleared, with pupils later released to their families. "This is going to take multiple days for us to get answers as to what happened and why this happened," Sheriff Smith said. Alexsandra Romero, a second year pupil, said she was sitting in classroom when someone came barging in and yelled at students, warning them to get down. "I can just remember my hands were shaking," she told the Atlanta Journal Constitution. "I felt bad because everybody was crying, everybody was trying to find their siblings. "I can still picture everything, like the blood, the shouting..." Georgia Governor Brian Kemp said on Twitter/X that he was "praying for the safety of those in our classrooms" and that he was directing "all available state resources". In a statement, President Biden said he and First Lady Jill Biden were "mourning the deaths of those whose lives were cut short due to more senseless gun violence". "What should have been a joyous back-to-school season in Winder, Georgia, has now turned into another horrific reminder of how gun violence continues to tear our communities apart," he said. Speaking at a campaign rally in New Hampshire, Vice-President Kamala Harris called the shooting "a senseless tragedy". "It's just outrageous that every day in our country... that parents have to send their children to school worried about whether their child will come home alive. "It doesn't have to be this way." Attorney General Merrick Garland, the top law enforcement official in the US, said federal agents were aiding the investigation. "I'm devastated for the families who have been affected by this terrible tragedy," he said.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 4, 2024 21:30:38 GMT
How the hell do kids of 14 get hold of guns? I appreciate they love their weapons in the US but don't they even secure their weapons? My son works in agriculture in the UK and had to jump through many hoops to get a gun licence and the guns have to be secure and only accessible by the licence holder.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 5, 2024 7:47:49 GMT
US school shooting suspect, 14, quizzed about threats last year..Report by Max Matza, BBC Newsi2-prod.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/article33602437.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200e/0_shooting.jpgA boy accused of killing four people at his high school in Georgia was interviewed last year by police about anonymous online threats, the FBI has said. Colt Gray, 14, denied to police in May 2023 he was behind internet posts that contained images of guns, warning of a school shooting. The suspect opened fire on Wednesday at Apalachee High School in the city of Winder, killing two teachers and two pupils, investigators say. Eight students and one teacher were injured. He was arrested on campus and will be prosecuted as an adult. Police have identified the victims as teachers Christina Irimie and Richard Aspinwall and 14-year-old students Mason Schermerhorn and Christian Angulo. In a news conference, Georgia Bureau of Investigation director Chris Hosey said the gun used was an "AR-platform style weapon". In a statement, the FBI said its National Threat Operations Center had alerted local law enforcement in May 2023 after receiving anonymous tips about "online threats to commit a school shooting at an unidentified location and time". The agency said that within 24 hours investigators had determined that the threats originated in Georgia. i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/article33602438.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/1_apalachee.jpgSheriff's deputies interviewed the boy and his father, who "stated he had hunting guns in the house, but the subject did not have unsupervised access to them", the FBI said. The suspect, who was 13 years old at the time, denied making the online threats and officials "alerted local schools for continued monitoring of the subject". "At the time, there was no probable cause for an arrest or to take any additional law enforcement action on the local, state or federal levels," added the FBI statement. Sheriff Jud Smith described the attack as "pure evil" and said officers were on scene within minutes of receiving 911 calls at 10:20 local time (14:20 GMT). Two officers assigned to the school "immediately encountered the subject", the sheriff said, adding that the boy "immediately surrendered". The boy has been interviewed and spoke with investigators once while in custody, Sheriff Smith said. The sheriff added that no motive had been identified and that law enforcement did not know of "any targets at this point". Students described chaotic scenes as alerts went out that an attacker was on campus. Classes at Apalachee began last month, but many students across the US are returning to schools this week. Lyela Sayarath, who was in the alleged attacker's class, told CNN that the suspect left the room at the beginning of an algebra lesson. She said he came back and knocked on the door, which had locked automatically, but another student refused to let him in after noticing he had a gun. Lyela told CNN the attacker then went to the classroom next door, where he began shooting. Marques Coleman, 14, said he saw the attacker holding a "big gun" just before the shooting began. "I got up, I started running, he started shooting like, like 10 times. He shot at least 10 times," he told CBS News, the BBC's US partner. "My teacher started barricading the door with desks," he said. After standing up, the pupil said he saw "one of my classmates on the ground bleeding so bad", another girl shot in the leg and a friend shot in the stomach. A vigil was held on Wednesday evening in the city of 18,000 residents about 50 miles (80km) from Atlanta. This was the 23rd US school shooting of 2024, according to a database maintained by magazine Education Week, which counts 11 dead and 38 injured in such attacks so far this year. David Riedman, who runs the K-12 School Shooting Database, told Reuters news agency that the shooting in Georgia was the first "planned attack" at a school during this autumn term.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 5, 2024 19:21:41 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Sept 5, 2024 19:54:42 GMT
The Manchester airport thugs are free,walking the streets. The Police have been talking to Imans and community leaders at Mosques. 2TK regime. Blatant.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 6, 2024 11:22:24 GMT
Rather than do something about restricting guns, JD Vance says that “I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” Mr. Vance said, adding that he believed gun restrictions were not the way to effectively prevent school shootings. “We have got to bolster security in our schools.” So schools in the US need to become more like maximum security prisons rather than the Government do something about guns.... Poor US kids. Shootings are just a fact of life. Not in the UK they aren't. Wonder why? www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/us/politics/jd-vance-fact-of-life-school-shootings.html
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Post by oldie on Sept 6, 2024 11:49:00 GMT
Rather than do something about restricting guns, JD Vance says that “I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” Mr. Vance said, adding that he believed gun restrictions were not the way to effectively prevent school shootings. “We have got to bolster security in our schools.” So schools in the US need to become more like maximum security prisons rather than the Government do something about guns.... Poor US kids. Shootings are just a fact of life. Not in the UK they aren't. Wonder why? www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/us/politics/jd-vance-fact-of-life-school-shootings.htmlA year or so ago I went to my grandkids pre school drop off. There was an armed police guard at the entrance, and on the way out we joined the cars leaving a Jewish School next door. For that school they a security guard carrying an automatic weapon. It's horrific, chilling to witness. And people actually support people like Trump and Vance. That beggars belief
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Post by aghast on Sept 6, 2024 19:43:02 GMT
Rather than do something about restricting guns, JD Vance says that “I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” Mr. Vance said, adding that he believed gun restrictions were not the way to effectively prevent school shootings. “We have got to bolster security in our schools.” So schools in the US need to become more like maximum security prisons rather than the Government do something about guns.... Poor US kids. Shootings are just a fact of life. Not in the UK they aren't. Wonder why? www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/us/politics/jd-vance-fact-of-life-school-shootings.htmlIt's an incredibly weak argument but the gun lobby seem able to control the agenda. Multiple shootings in schools? What can we do? Control the guns? No. We'll put security guards on the doors to keep the murderers out. That should address the issue. I'd be interested to hear from some of our pro-Trump/Republican posters on here with their views on guns in the US and whether they should be limited, and if they support the 'right to bear arms' argument.
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Post by oldie on Sept 6, 2024 21:59:07 GMT
Rather than do something about restricting guns, JD Vance says that “I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” Mr. Vance said, adding that he believed gun restrictions were not the way to effectively prevent school shootings. “We have got to bolster security in our schools.” So schools in the US need to become more like maximum security prisons rather than the Government do something about guns.... Poor US kids. Shootings are just a fact of life. Not in the UK they aren't. Wonder why? www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/us/politics/jd-vance-fact-of-life-school-shootings.htmlIt's an incredibly weak argument but the gun lobby seem able to control the agenda. Multiple shootings in schools? What can we do? Control the guns? No. We'll put security guards on the doors to keep the murderers out. That should address the issue. I'd be interested to hear from some of our pro-Trump/Republican posters on here with their views on guns in the US and whether they should be limited, and if they support the 'right to bear arms' argument. Can't wait for that.
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Post by Icegas on Sept 7, 2024 1:59:30 GMT
Rather than do something about restricting guns, JD Vance says that “I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” Mr. Vance said, adding that he believed gun restrictions were not the way to effectively prevent school shootings. “We have got to bolster security in our schools.” So schools in the US need to become more like maximum security prisons rather than the Government do something about guns.... Poor US kids. Shootings are just a fact of life. Not in the UK they aren't. Wonder why? www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/us/politics/jd-vance-fact-of-life-school-shootings.htmlIt's an incredibly weak argument but the gun lobby seem able to control the agenda. Multiple shootings in schools? What can we do? Control the guns? No. We'll put security guards on the doors to keep the murderers out. That should address the issue. I'd be interested to hear from some of our pro-Trump/Republican posters on here with their views on guns in the US and whether they should be limited, and if they support the 'right to bear arms' argument. I believe that US citizens should never loose their 'rights to bear arms' as it's what their country was founded on, in order to potentially protect themselves from any attempt by a corrupt government ever taking over. That said the gun laws over there are way above my level of understanding. I get the rights to carry a hand gun/ pistol,and I think that should be protected, but these machine guns and weapons that are designed to kill fast on a battle field should never be allowed to be sold to the general public, and I would be happy with them being banned. My only worry for that would be if they stopped them, then how long would it be until all guns are banned? How a 14 year old boy got these weapons here is unbelievably unsettling.
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Post by trymer on Sept 8, 2024 18:47:01 GMT
How the hell do kids of 14 get hold of guns? I appreciate they love their weapons in the US but don't they even secure their weapons? My son works in agriculture in the UK and had to jump through many hoops to get a gun licence and the guns have to be secure and only accessible by the licence holder. Well because there are so few licensed firearms in Britain the police firearms officers can visit and check how weapons are stored,in the USA there are more guns than people,probably hundreds of thousands of unlicensed guns in the hands of criminals too. We still get shootings here like the ones in Liverpool last year or the year before,all of those guns were unlicensed (the shooters had previous convictions so they wouldnt have got a firearms license) all the guns had been smuggled into the country, Skorpion machine pistols and Glock pistol.
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Post by aghast on Sept 8, 2024 21:31:28 GMT
2023 stabbing murders:
UK 244 USA 1,630
2023 firearms murders:
UK 28 USA 42,967
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Post by Icegas on Sept 8, 2024 21:51:20 GMT
2023 stabbing murders: UK 244 USA 1,630 2023 firearms murders: UK 28 USA 42,967 Your point? America is a far more violent,and larger country than us. And according to you those were last year stats. Our gun comparison is of course going to be lower then their's, that due to our different gun laws. The stabbing percentage is far more comparable, given our different populations. I wonder what it would be given our stabbing increase daily in this country in 2024.
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Post by aghast on Sept 8, 2024 22:06:02 GMT
2023 stabbing murders: UK 244 USA 1,630 2023 firearms murders: UK 28 USA 42,967 Your point? America is a far more violent,and larger country than us. And according to you those were last year stats. Our gun comparison is of course going to be lower then their's, that due to our different gun laws. The stabbing percentage is far more comparable, given our different populations. I wonder what it would be given our stabbing increase daily in this country in 2024. Just pointing out that knife deaths are higher per capita in the USA than the UK and gun deaths are in a different universe altogether. Yet every time the Democrats attempt to reform firearms laws they are shouted down as anti-freedom liberals and the gun lobby roll into action. Perhaps this should be in the US elections section. But the thread is called Shootings in the UK and Around the World, so it's pretty relevant.
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 11, 2024 12:15:12 GMT
A suspended sentence!!!!! WTF. Yet other first offenders have been sent to prison for over a year for something they posted on Facebook?!?!?!!
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Post by baldrick on Sept 11, 2024 12:20:04 GMT
Some would have had him hanged by now. "A brain-damaged man jailed for life for murder as a teenager has had his conviction quashed by the Court of Appeal. Oliver Campbell was jailed in 1991 for murdering shopkeeper Baldev Hoondle in Hackney, east London. He was interviewed without a lawyer after his arrest and later convicted of murder and robbery while a friend, Eric Samuels, was found guilty of just the robbery. Three judges ruled on Wednesday that Mr Campbell's conviction was "unsafe"." news.sky.com/story/oliver-campbell-brain-damaged-man-who-was-jailed-for-life-over-murder-has-conviction-quashed-13212411
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 11, 2024 12:33:25 GMT
Rather than do something about restricting guns, JD Vance says that “I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” Mr. Vance said, adding that he believed gun restrictions were not the way to effectively prevent school shootings. “We have got to bolster security in our schools.” So schools in the US need to become more like maximum security prisons rather than the Government do something about guns.... Poor US kids. Shootings are just a fact of life. Not in the UK they aren't. Wonder why? www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/us/politics/jd-vance-fact-of-life-school-shootings.htmlIt's an incredibly weak argument but the gun lobby seem able to control the agenda. Multiple shootings in schools? What can we do? Control the guns? No. We'll put security guards on the doors to keep the murderers out. That should address the issue. I'd be interested to hear from some of our pro-Trump/Republican posters on here with their views on guns in the US and whether they should be limited, and if they support the 'right to bear arms' argument. I remember the gun ban in the UK. I had some friends who belonged to gun clubs and used to shoot for pleasure on the ranges. The gun ban only really affected these people, because their weapons were registered. The criminals still kept their weapons ! In fact, gun crime in the UK is now bigger than it was before the gun ban! The US is a completely different kettle of fish. The sheer amount of weapons in the public domain makes virtually any attempt at gun control pointless. The authorities just don't have the resources to control it. As to the "right to bear arms", well, to change basics in the Constitution is about as difficult in the US as it is to make changes to the NHS here, as it's seen as almost religious. Just what is "gun control" anyway? I read about it all the time, but to me it's just another of those throw away comments. How will "gun control" work in reality?
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Post by oldie on Sept 11, 2024 13:20:59 GMT
It's an incredibly weak argument but the gun lobby seem able to control the agenda. Multiple shootings in schools? What can we do? Control the guns? No. We'll put security guards on the doors to keep the murderers out. That should address the issue. I'd be interested to hear from some of our pro-Trump/Republican posters on here with their views on guns in the US and whether they should be limited, and if they support the 'right to bear arms' argument. I remember the gun ban in the UK. I had some friends who belonged to gun clubs and used to shoot for pleasure on the ranges. The gun ban only really affected these people, because their weapons were registered. The criminals still kept their weapons ! In fact, gun crime in the UK is now bigger than it was before the gun ban! The US is a completely different kettle of fish. The sheer amount of weapons in the public domain makes virtually any attempt at gun control pointless. The authorities just don't have the resources to control it. As to the "right to bear arms", well, to change basics in the Constitution is about as difficult in the US as it is to make changes to the NHS here, as it's seen as almost religious. Just what is "gun control" anyway? I read about it all the time, but to me it's just another of those throw away comments. How will "gun control" work in reality? I agree with this. The days of simple "gun control" legislation are long gone. You reap what you sow and the seeds of this disaster were sown a long time ago. Sometimes (and for obvious reasons I am very pro America) I am reminded of Oscar Wilde's famous jibe and think, how true. "America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between."
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Post by trymer on Sept 11, 2024 19:31:32 GMT
It's an incredibly weak argument but the gun lobby seem able to control the agenda. Multiple shootings in schools? What can we do? Control the guns? No. We'll put security guards on the doors to keep the murderers out. That should address the issue. I'd be interested to hear from some of our pro-Trump/Republican posters on here with their views on guns in the US and whether they should be limited, and if they support the 'right to bear arms' argument. I remember the gun ban in the UK. I had some friends who belonged to gun clubs and used to shoot for pleasure on the ranges. The gun ban only really affected these people, because their weapons were registered. The criminals still kept their weapons ! In fact, gun crime in the UK is now bigger than it was before the gun ban! The US is a completely different kettle of fish. The sheer amount of weapons in the public domain makes virtually any attempt at gun control pointless. The authorities just don't have the resources to control it. I remember the first firearms amnesty here (just) there was a Giles cartoon of some granny driving a German tank into a police station,the amount of weapons including MPs was amazing, however the Liverpool Skorpion shootings and that one some years back in Birmingham with a MAC 10 jus show how easy it is for criminals to access deadly weapons. As you say the law abiding people with registered weapons have been penalised (bound to happen after Dunblane and Hungerford) but how can they stop criminals from buying smuggled weapons ? its the same as drugs,supply and demand,probably get much worse with all the weapons floating around in Ukraine, need draconian sentences for smuggling,selling or possession of firearms and the rope for using them in murders.
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