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Post by oldie on Feb 15, 2022 8:04:10 GMT
The only reason the Police and the CPS are pursuing this case is because 1) They tick a lot of boxes by securing a DV conviction. They don’t give a flying if the “victim” doesn’t want to pursue the case, they’d rather f@ck up an otherwise strong marriage in order to get one across the line, they just don’t care how much damage they cause. 2) JB is a high profile target and the Police and CPS will be salivating at the prospect of being able to parade his head around on a stick. This won’t be a jury trial, it is so minor it is a summary only hearing, yet they are prepared to throw the kitchen sink at it to secure a conviction. They really are pathetic when you consider how much more serious crime goes uninvestigated and unpunished. The Police and the CPS have been totally politicised and are now forced to dance to the tune played by the Woke agendaists and have long given up any pretence at being independent. Sad, but true. 1) I take it you don't like the police 2) I am interested that you think hitting / beating / kicking a woman is a 'minor' offence 3) 'Woke' - an insult thrown around by people [usually 'Trumpian' / Johnson style right wing supporters] against anyone whom they can't articulate an argument because they have a different opinion usually those who actually care about others such as women who get beaten. Boom. Well said Cheshire |
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Post by oldie on Feb 15, 2022 8:04:47 GMT
Hi, I came to see how we got on against Mansfield, am I in the right place? No. |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Feb 15, 2022 8:22:29 GMT
Hi, I came to see how we got on against Mansfield, am I in the right place? We drew 0-0, should’ve had a penalty. Meanwhile those people who are anti Joey Barton (a minority, but a very loud one) are digging their bunkers so deep they now resemble the 17th green at St Andrews. Literally nothing the club or team does (and trust me there has been significant progress on and off the pitch in the last 6 months) is not good enough for them. The Joey Barton ultras brigade are also small in number but vocal, more so on social media. It’s basically become a Rovers culture war, with no winners. Me? I just support and want the best for BRFC. We are going the right way, albeit more slowly than I would like. Anything else is just noise, there just happens to be rather a lot of it right now. |
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Post by oldie on Feb 15, 2022 8:57:01 GMT
Hi, I came to see how we got on against Mansfield, am I in the right place? We drew 0-0, should’ve had a penalty. Meanwhile those people who are anti Joey Barton (a minority, but a very loud one) are digging their bunkers so deep they now resemble the 17th green at St Andrews. Literally nothing the club or team does (and trust me there has been significant progress on and off the pitch in the last 6 months) is not good enough for them. The Joey Barton ultras brigade are also small in number but vocal, more so on social media. It’s basically become a Rovers culture war, with no winners. Me? I just support and want the best for BRFC. We are going the right way, albeit more slowly than I would like. Anything else is just noise, there just happens to be rather a lot of it right now. I will give you the training ground. But I am not sure what progress has been made in the last 6 months. You could argue that if after relegation last term we reset to zero. So from zero, the team has stabilised to mid table L2. That's a rather large step backwards to gain half a step forward. |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Feb 15, 2022 9:12:15 GMT
We drew 0-0, should’ve had a penalty. Meanwhile those people who are anti Joey Barton (a minority, but a very loud one) are digging their bunkers so deep they now resemble the 17th green at St Andrews. Literally nothing the club or team does (and trust me there has been significant progress on and off the pitch in the last 6 months) is not good enough for them. The Joey Barton ultras brigade are also small in number but vocal, more so on social media. It’s basically become a Rovers culture war, with no winners. Me? I just support and want the best for BRFC. We are going the right way, albeit more slowly than I would like. Anything else is just noise, there just happens to be rather a lot of it right now. I will give you the training ground. But I am not sure what progress has been made in the last 6 months. You could argue that if after relegation last term we reset to zero. So from zero, the team has stabilised to mid table L2. That's a rather large step backwards to gain half a step forward. The shop, The bars, the matchday experience, players who care about the shirt, the fan engagement, rebuilding with the Supporters Trust, the Community Trust, the women’s team, improved performances if not results, the CEO and the team he’s built around him, the training ground AND the aqueduct. But apart from that, what has Bristol Rovers ever given us? |
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Post by bloogas on Feb 15, 2022 9:40:52 GMT
1) I take it you don't like the police Certainly don't. I fought a case (too complex to go into here) and the way the police and CPS colluded to manipulate the process was a marvel to behold. I still can't get over the John Menesnes case - an innocent man shot dead but no-one censured. |
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Post by alftupper on Feb 15, 2022 9:44:08 GMT
Rain is forecast, during tomorrow evening`s match. Barton Out!!
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Feb 15, 2022 9:47:53 GMT
Rain is forecast, during tomorrow evening`s match. Barton Out!! . Pretty sure it is tonight. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Feb 15, 2022 10:46:40 GMT
I will give you the training ground. But I am not sure what progress has been made in the last 6 months. You could argue that if after relegation last term we reset to zero. So from zero, the team has stabilised to mid table L2. That's a rather large step backwards to gain half a step forward. The shop, The bars, the matchday experience, players who care about the shirt, the fan engagement, rebuilding with the Supporters Trust, the Community Trust, the women’s team, improved performances if not results, the CEO and the team he’s built around him, the training ground AND the aqueduct. But apart from that, what has Bristol Rovers ever given us? I'd add much improved medical services for the players, and the Fanzone on matchdays at The Mem. Improved communication from the club - now that the leadership team is complete, TG has given details of who is responsible for each section of the club. |
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Post by oldie on Feb 15, 2022 11:11:25 GMT
I will give you the training ground. But I am not sure what progress has been made in the last 6 months. You could argue that if after relegation last term we reset to zero. So from zero, the team has stabilised to mid table L2. That's a rather large step backwards to gain half a step forward. The shop, The bars, the matchday experience, players who care about the shirt, the fan engagement, rebuilding with the Supporters Trust, the Community Trust, the women’s team, improved performances if not results, the CEO and the team he’s built around him, the training ground AND the aqueduct. But apart from that, what has Bristol Rovers ever given us? All true in the last few years. But specifically over the last 6-18 months? A lot of those back of house improvements are potentially wasted if the front of house, on the pitch falls apart. Ultimately that is what people pay for |
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Post by alftupper on Feb 15, 2022 13:45:18 GMT
Rain is forecast, during tomorrow evening`s match. Barton Out!! . Pretty sure it is tonight. Good point. Well made. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Feb 15, 2022 14:08:18 GMT
The shop, The bars, the matchday experience, players who care about the shirt, the fan engagement, rebuilding with the Supporters Trust, the Community Trust, the women’s team, improved performances if not results, the CEO and the team he’s built around him, the training ground AND the aqueduct. But apart from that, what has Bristol Rovers ever given us? All true in the last few years. But specifically over the last 6-18 months? A lot of those back of house improvements are potentially wasted if the front of house, on the pitch falls apart. Ultimately that is what people pay for If you went to The Mem you would see that the things you mention haven't fallen apart. Roughly 7,000 Rovers fans are paying to go and watch the current team. |
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Post by towngas on Feb 15, 2022 14:50:18 GMT
Hi, I came to see how we got on against Mansfield, am I in the right place? We drew 0-0, should’ve had a penalty. Meanwhile those people who are anti Joey Barton (a minority, but a very loud one) are digging their bunkers so deep they now resemble the 17th green at St Andrews. Literally nothing the club or team does (and trust me there has been significant progress on and off the pitch in the last 6 months) is not good enough for them. The Joey Barton ultras brigade are also small in number but vocal, more so on social media. It’s basically become a Rovers culture war, with no winners. Me? I just support and want the best for BRFC. We are going the right way, albeit more slowly than I would like. Anything else is just noise, there just happens to be rather a lot of it right now. Sums the situation perfectly. Well said, sir. |
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Post by towngas on Feb 15, 2022 14:53:33 GMT
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Post by baselswh on Feb 15, 2022 14:56:12 GMT
The shop, The bars, the matchday experience, players who care about the shirt, the fan engagement, rebuilding with the Supporters Trust, the Community Trust, the women’s team, improved performances if not results, the CEO and the team he’s built around him, the training ground AND the aqueduct. But apart from that, what has Bristol Rovers ever given us? All true in the last few years. But specifically over the last 6-18 months? A lot of those back of house improvements are potentially wasted if the front of house, on the pitch falls apart. Ultimately that is what people pay for We have the best team since GCs promotion challengers and it's improving all the time. Trying to help you out here Oldie and stop you looking slightly mad. |
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Post by towngas on Feb 15, 2022 15:09:32 GMT
The only reason the Police and the CPS are pursuing this case is because 1) They tick a lot of boxes by securing a DV conviction. They don’t give a flying if the “victim” doesn’t want to pursue the case, they’d rather f@ck up an otherwise strong marriage in order to get one across the line, they just don’t care how much damage they cause. 2) JB is a high profile target and the Police and CPS will be salivating at the prospect of being able to parade his head around on a stick. This won’t be a jury trial, it is so minor it is a summary only hearing, yet they are prepared to throw the kitchen sink at it to secure a conviction. They really are pathetic when you consider how much more serious crime goes uninvestigated and unpunished. The Police and the CPS have been totally politicised and are now forced to dance to the tune played by the Woke agendaists and have long given up any pretence at being independent. Sad, but true. 1) I take it you don't like the police 2) I am interested that you think hitting / beating / kicking a woman is a 'minor' offence 3) 'Woke' - an insult thrown around by people [usually 'Trumpian' / Johnson style right wing supporters] against anyone whom they can't articulate an argument because they have a different opinion usually those who actually care about others such as women who get beaten. Trust me, I KNOW the targets and policy ordinary Police Officers have to follow with regard to DV matters. Those targets and policies allow no deviation from an absolute aim of securing a conviction at all costs. There is no room for common sense or considering the wishes of people once the understandable immediate trauma of an incident has passed and clear and rational thinking can be applied. It’s not a case of not liking the Police, I have great respect but Policing has become politicised to a point where discretion has become a dirty word and everything is governed by policy. As for your 3rd point - Really? Woke is just an insult thrown about by anyone who isn’t rabidly left wing, which is what you really mean. I leave you with the disgraceful abdication of the Council and the Police when they conspired to leave the Colston statue unguarded then stood back and allowed a baying mob to tear it down and dump it in the river. Followed by the Crown court debacle where the judge allowed totally biased people with nothing to add to the actual ocourances on that day spout off and influence the jury to bring in a NG verdict on those defendants. If those collective actions weren’t Woke, please explain what they were. |
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Post by towngas on Feb 15, 2022 15:12:43 GMT
All true in the last few years. But specifically over the last 6-18 months? A lot of those back of house improvements are potentially wasted if the front of house, on the pitch falls apart. Ultimately that is what people pay for We have the best team since GCs promotion challengers and it's improving all the time. Trying to help you out here Oldie and stop you looking slightly mad. Don’t bother Baz. He’s beyond redemption. He actually believes Corbyn would have been a good Prime Minister. Ooh, me sides! |
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Post by Bath Gas on Feb 15, 2022 16:20:07 GMT
The only reason the Police and the CPS are pursuing this case is because 1) They tick a lot of boxes by securing a DV conviction. They don’t give a flying if the “victim” doesn’t want to pursue the case, they’d rather f@ck up an otherwise strong marriage in order to get one across the line, they just don’t care how much damage they cause. 2) JB is a high profile target and the Police and CPS will be salivating at the prospect of being able to parade his head around on a stick. This won’t be a jury trial, it is so minor it is a summary only hearing, yet they are prepared to throw the kitchen sink at it to secure a conviction. They really are pathetic when you consider how much more serious crime goes uninvestigated and unpunished. The Police and the CPS have been totally politicised and are now forced to dance to the tune played by the Woke agendaists and have long given up any pretence at being independent. Sad, but true. 1) I take it you don't like the police 2) I am interested that you think hitting / beating / kicking a woman is a 'minor' offence 3) 'Woke' - an insult thrown around by people [usually 'Trumpian' / Johnson style right wing supporters] against anyone whom they can't articulate an argument because they have a different opinion usually those who actually care about others such as women who get beaten. 2) Hasn't the law put the Barton case into this category, hence why it is being heard at the Magistrates' Court? It doesn't mean that members of the public consider it to be an unimportant crime - but in the eyes of the law, it's not mega. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2022 16:38:59 GMT
I'm still waiting for some to explain why the rallying call reproduced above asking for unconditional support was good but that the rallying call that came into our Inboxes asking for unconditional support was bad.
Oldie, Swiss, KP etc ??
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Post by towngas on Feb 15, 2022 16:43:01 GMT
1) I take it you don't like the police 2) I am interested that you think hitting / beating / kicking a woman is a 'minor' offence 3) 'Woke' - an insult thrown around by people [usually 'Trumpian' / Johnson style right wing supporters] against anyone whom they can't articulate an argument because they have a different opinion usually those who actually care about others such as women who get beaten. 2) Hasn't the law put the Barton case into this category, hence why it is being heard at the Magistrates' Court? It doesn't mean that members of the public consider it to be an unimportant crime - but in the eyes of the law, it's not mega. Ah, but your sensible assessment doesn’t fit with the Anti-Barton at all costs agenda. |
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