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Post by JeffNZ on Jul 23, 2019 1:33:17 GMT
As I had suspected the Paddy Power sash logo with Huddersfield Town was a marketing scam but a great one in my opinion.
Seems like Paddy Power are sponsoring The Terriers to have a clean shirt or more explicitly one without any sponsors logos.
I love the idea of Rovers playing in a non-sponsored shirt so putting aside the fact it would be a gambling company, here's hoping our fiture sponsors are Paddy Power.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 23, 2019 7:23:48 GMT
doing Newport and Motherwell as well and apparently there are more to come
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 11:03:03 GMT
would love that at rovers,much better than the hideous branded kits.
Great marketing video.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 12:43:12 GMT
Would much rather have a corporate logo than take money from a company who make profit from destroying people's lives.
Betting isn't for fun or entertainment, it's not a game, the companies exist to take money from people stupid enough to get involved.
Even if you do find a way to win, they don't pay. Just ask Phil Ivey.
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Post by Rex on Jul 23, 2019 17:52:40 GMT
Would much rather have a corporate logo than take money from a company who make profit from destroying people's lives. Betting isn't for fun or entertainment, it's not a game, the companies exist to take money from people stupid enough to get involved. Even if you do find a way to win, they don't pay. Just ask Phil Ivey. Betting companies exist to make money, just like any other company. I wouldn't deny it f**ks some people up, just as alcohol and million and one other things in this life does. I drink, gamble and do a whole host of other things too much, but it's my life and my choice. I will be going racing at Salisbury this weekend and I can pretty much guarantee I will have a good time, win or lose (and ultimately I know I will lose) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 19:22:53 GMT
Would much rather have a corporate logo than take money from a company who make profit from destroying people's lives. Betting isn't for fun or entertainment, it's not a game, the companies exist to take money from people stupid enough to get involved. Even if you do find a way to win, they don't pay. Just ask Phil Ivey. Betting companies exist to make money, just like any other company. I wouldn't deny it fs some people up, just as alcohol and million and one other things in this life does. I drink, gamble and do a whole host of other things too much, but it's my life and my choice. I will be going racing at Salisbury this weekend and I can pretty much guarantee I will have a good time, win or lose (and ultimately I know I will lose) Hope not too many horses die for your entertainment at the event. |
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Post by Rex on Jul 23, 2019 19:35:27 GMT
Betting companies exist to make money, just like any other company. I wouldn't deny it fs some people up, just as alcohol and million and one other things in this life does. I drink, gamble and do a whole host of other things too much, but it's my life and my choice. I will be going racing at Salisbury this weekend and I can pretty much guarantee I will have a good time, win or lose (and ultimately I know I will lose) Hope not too many horses die for your entertainment at the event. Me too. I hope not too many people die building football stadiums for your entertainment in the next world cup. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 20:23:56 GMT
Hope not too many horses die for your entertainment at the event. Me too. I hope not too many people die building football stadiums for your entertainment in the next world cup. Is that the best you've got as a defence for an industry that continues to produce a death in competition every second day? Sat behind that, there are no statistics for deaths outside of competition. |
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Post by Rex on Jul 23, 2019 20:39:34 GMT
Me too. I hope not too many people die building football stadiums for your entertainment in the next world cup. Is that the best you've got as a defence for an industry that continues to produce a death in competition every second day? Sat behind that, there are no statistics for deaths outside of competition. I was genuinely shocked when I recently found out the number of horse deaths at racecourses , especially the amount at flat racing. But no , it's not 'the best I've got' , it's just an observation that we live in a cruel, cruel world and those of us that live in the west have a pretty good time of things compared to others. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 20:55:00 GMT
Is that the best you've got as a defence for an industry that continues to produce a death in competition every second day? Sat behind that, there are no statistics for deaths outside of competition. I was genuinely shocked when I recently found out the number of horse deaths at racecourses , especially the amount at flat racing. But no , it's not 'the best I've got' , it's just an observation that we live in a cruel, cruel world and those of us that live in the west have a pretty good time of things compared to others. Who am I to judge, it just seems obscene to me that it continues. But it's legal, and there doesn't seem to be a huge movement against it, so it looks as if my view that the industry is disgusting is the minority one. |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Jul 24, 2019 7:12:56 GMT
Southend are the latest to take the Paddy Power shilling.
Looks like they got a set of off the shelf kits from Doug Hillard sports, not that I’m looking to give Tom Gorringe ideas or anything...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 8:55:18 GMT
I'd ban betting advertising in the UK, unlike drink and drugs you can feed your addiction while sat on your sofa through your phone. I can't imagine how difficult it would be for a recovering addict to watch football on the TV now. Every second advert is for a betting company, 12/20 Premier League teams are sponsored by betting companies this season and it's even worse in the, wait for it... Sky Bet Championship. The betting industry is here to stay but personally I'd like to see a blanket ban on them being able to advertise.
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Post by jackthegas on Jul 24, 2019 12:30:07 GMT
I'd ban betting advertising in the UK, unlike drink and drugs you can feed your addiction while sat on your sofa through your phone. I can't imagine how difficult it would be for a recovering addict to watch football on the TV now. Every second advert is for a betting company, 12/20 Premier League teams are sponsored by betting companies this season and it's even worse in the, wait for it... Sky Bet Championship. The betting industry is here to stay but personally I'd like to see a blanket ban on them being able to advertise. I think pre-watershed betting adverts during sporting events are being discontinued later this year, which I think is a step in the right direction. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 13:16:12 GMT
I'd ban betting advertising in the UK, unlike drink and drugs you can feed your addiction while sat on your sofa through your phone. I can't imagine how difficult it would be for a recovering addict to watch football on the TV now. Every second advert is for a betting company, 12/20 Premier League teams are sponsored by betting companies this season and it's even worse in the, wait for it... Sky Bet Championship. The betting industry is here to stay but personally I'd like to see a blanket ban on them being able to advertise. I think pre-watershed betting adverts during sporting events are being discontinued later this year, which I think is a step in the right direction. I think it was whistle to whistle advertising. So no in play adverts. I also think it's quite sad kids can't actually wear the same shirts as their heroes. |
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Post by Rex on Jul 25, 2019 6:20:46 GMT
I'd ban betting advertising in the UK, unlike drink and drugs you can feed your addiction while sat on your sofa through your phone. I can't imagine how difficult it would be for a recovering addict to watch football on the TV now. Every second advert is for a betting company, 12/20 Premier League teams are sponsored by betting companies this season and it's even worse in the, wait for it... Sky Bet Championship. The betting industry is here to stay but personally I'd like to see a blanket ban on them being able to advertise. Well I suppose you can't feed drink and drug addictions through your phone, but you can certainly do so sat on your sofa  An awful lot of people like to gamble in various forms, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that you will ever make a long term profit doing so, but it does provide a bit of enjoyment for many, it also destroy's SOME peoples lives. Drinking does the same, other drugs do the same. Bambers point about horse racing deaths is a valid one (about 200 a year) , although I would imagine if you eradicate all kinds of harm to animals then we would live in a very different world amd one that probably the majority wouldn't like. I suppose it all comes down to where individuals draw their own personal line. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 13:23:26 GMT
No sponsorship from betting companies or the like please. Animals involved in this farce are treated like s**t. Once they are no longer able to to cut the mustard they are culled. I re-home ex racing greyhounds from Ireland and elsewhere. There are always dogs available to become your forever friend. Go to Bristol dawg website or message me on here you won't regret it.
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Post by irishrover on Jul 25, 2019 13:53:58 GMT
I'd ban betting advertising in the UK, unlike drink and drugs you can feed your addiction while sat on your sofa through your phone. I can't imagine how difficult it would be for a recovering addict to watch football on the TV now. Every second advert is for a betting company, 12/20 Premier League teams are sponsored by betting companies this season and it's even worse in the, wait for it... Sky Bet Championship. The betting industry is here to stay but personally I'd like to see a blanket ban on them being able to advertise. I first started following football properly as a 10 year old in 1993 and, contrary to the big 'everything's changed' narrative I think most things are quite similar but I feel like the betting thing has fundamentally changed the way many people follow the game. I know people did always bet on football but I don't remember it being as widespread or as systematically engrained in the culture of being a football fan as it is now. Gambling was associated with horses and dogs and had a slightly unfashionable reputation as something old men did. It certainly wasn't in any way seen as part of youth culture when I was growing up. I don't know anyone in my wider friendship group from my 'bog standard comp' who gambled regularly and I never remember people my age betting on football even when I was in my early-mid 20s. It just wasn't something you did or really talked about. Now I see a whole generation of football fans bought up with the culture of constantly gambling on football as an integral part of following the sport. Online betting has clearly transformed this.
I went on a cricket tour this week with a fairly diverse group of people and it struck me that all of the under 25s, whatever their background, were gambling on football or cricket all the time. In fact it was the dominant frame they used to discuss sport which, as a non-gambler, felt alien to me. Among the older guys on the tour most didn't bet, and those that did bet on horses more often than football and were noticeably less open in talking about it as if they still felt a bit of stigma attached to it among some of their peers. So I do think there's been a sea-change and I'm not massively comfortable with it because it seems to be specifically targeted at hooking in the young by spreading the idea that betting is somehow integral to following football in the same way it always has been with horse racing, for example. |
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Post by JeffNZ on Jul 25, 2019 15:26:03 GMT
My OP was a reflection of my yearning to see teams, especially Rovers, with NO sponsorship on their shirts but I had a suspicion it might morph into a conversation around betting hence my "putting aside" comment.
As it has, I may as well throw in my observations which are limited to what I see on TV, online and my biennial trips back to the UK.
The frequency and range of gambling ads in the UK astounded me. It appeared that 33% of TV ads I saw, particularly during sports events, were for some form of gambling. Sky are one of the worse culprits who seem determined to push their betting arm at every opportunity.
I also agree with Irish re the impact it has on the younger generation who seemed incapable of watching any sporting event without having a bet on it.
Gambling is an addiction which, as there appears to be minimal regulation in the UK, is eagerly fed and encouraged by the whole industry.
Things are highly regulated here in NZ with no private bookmakers and only the state run TAB permitted to take bets on horse racing and other events. Lotto is also run by the government with all profits ploughed back into community based projects.
Gambling TV adds are minimal and equally balanced by gambling addiction warning and support ads.
We do have a problem here with Pokies (slot machines) addiction but overall gambling is not a big thing at all in NZ society.
In the UK gambling has become pervasive and so engrained into society that imposing regulation to level of that in NZ would now be near impossible but I feel some form of action is needed as the impact to communities and families is immense and will only increase.
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Post by thecuregalore94 on Jul 25, 2019 17:26:59 GMT
I just want to watch televised football without Ray Winston leering at me during half time screeching 'BET IN PLAY NOOOOWWW YOU FAAAHKIN' MUGS'.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 17:45:39 GMT
My OP was a reflection of my yearning to see teams, especially Rovers, with NO sponsorship on their shirts but I had a suspicion it might morph into a conversation around betting hence my "putting aside" comment. As it has, I may as well throw in my observations which are limited to what I see on TV, online and my biennial trips back to the UK. The frequency and range of gambling ads in the UK astounded me. It appeared that 33% of TV ads I saw, particularly during sports events, were for some form of gambling. Sky are one of the worse culprits who seem determined to push their betting arm at every opportunity. I also agree with Irish re the impact it has on the younger generation who seemed incapable of watching any sporting event without having a bet on it. Gambling is an addiction which, as there appears to be minimal regulation in the UK, is eagerly fed and encouraged by the whole industry. Things are highly regulated here in NZ with no private bookmakers and only the state run TAB permitted to take bets on horse racing and other events. Lotto is also run by the government with all profits ploughed back into community based projects. Gambling TV adds are minimal and equally balanced by gambling addiction warning and support ads. We do have a problem here with Pokies (slot machines) addiction but overall gambling is not a big thing at all in NZ society. In the UK gambling has become pervasive and so engrained into society that imposing regulation to level of that in NZ would now be near impossible but I feel some form of action is needed as the impact to communities and families is immense and will only increase. I genuinely feel for youngsters these days. By the time they have gambled, drunk, taken foreign holidays, made the monthly payment on a new car, TV subscription, monthly payments for the phone and iPad they don't have enough left over to buy a house. |
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