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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 19:30:56 GMT
My OP was a reflection of my yearning to see teams, especially Rovers, with NO sponsorship on their shirts but I had a suspicion it might morph into a conversation around betting hence my "putting aside" comment. As it has, I may as well throw in my observations which are limited to what I see on TV, online and my biennial trips back to the UK. The frequency and range of gambling ads in the UK astounded me. It appeared that 33% of TV ads I saw, particularly during sports events, were for some form of gambling. Sky are one of the worse culprits who seem determined to push their betting arm at every opportunity. I also agree with Irish re the impact it has on the younger generation who seemed incapable of watching any sporting event without having a bet on it. Gambling is an addiction which, as there appears to be minimal regulation in the UK, is eagerly fed and encouraged by the whole industry. Things are highly regulated here in NZ with no private bookmakers and only the state run TAB permitted to take bets on horse racing and other events. Lotto is also run by the government with all profits ploughed back into community based projects. Gambling TV adds are minimal and equally balanced by gambling addiction warning and support ads. We do have a problem here with Pokies (slot machines) addiction but overall gambling is not a big thing at all in NZ society. In the UK gambling has become pervasive and so engrained into society that imposing regulation to level of that in NZ would now be near impossible but I feel some form of action is needed as the impact to communities and families is immense and will only increase. I genuinely feel for youngsters these days. By the time they have gambled, drunk, taken foreign holidays, made the monthly payment on a new car, TV subscription, monthly payments for the phone and iPad they don't have enough left over to buy a house. Tbf we can’t buy houses for the cost of a Party 7, packet of woodbines and a bag of chips any more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 20:38:54 GMT
I genuinely feel for youngsters these days. By the time they have gambled, drunk, taken foreign holidays, made the monthly payment on a new car, TV subscription, monthly payments for the phone and iPad they don't have enough left over to buy a house. Tbf we can’t buy houses for the cost of a Party 7, packet of woodbines and a bag of chips any more. Neither could my generation. But we were prepared to do things like use shipping pallets with a mattress as a bed until we found something that we could afford. Try convincing the sort of person who bleats on endlessly about 'how easy' it was back then to hand back all of their luxuries, cook their own food, forget holidays for at least 10 years, do all of the DIY and improvements / repairs that a house needs etc. And yes, I did go several years without seeing a Rovers' game because money was just that tight. No sympathy whatsoever for today's whining entitled snowflakes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 21:00:36 GMT
I look forward to the football starting.
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Post by Rex on Jul 25, 2019 21:03:36 GMT
Tbf we can’t buy houses for the cost of a Party 7, packet of woodbines and a bag of chips any more. Neither could my generation. But we were prepared to do things like use shipping pallets with a mattress as a bed until we found something that we could afford. Try convincing the sort of person who bleats on endlessly about 'how easy' it was back then to hand back all of their luxuries, cook their own food, forget holidays for at least 10 years, do all of the DIY and improvements / repairs that a house needs etc. And yes, I did go several years without seeing a Rovers' game because money was just that tight. No sympathy whatsoever for today's whining entitled snowflakes.Yeah alright, what was the ratio of your salary to your first mortgage? 3/1 ? Good luck getting that now. Sometimes you talk a bit of sense, but using terms like 'whining entitled snowflakes' just makes you seem a bit of a fool. Just my opinion of course
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Post by The Concept on Jul 25, 2019 21:11:41 GMT
Never been a fan of all blue (or all white) back of shirts.
Never was keen on the squares crest we had for a while.
But if you're going to bring them back, for a one off, then the anniversary of the 1989/90 Third Division Championship is a good time. Still hope they don't use that badge though.
Another great little video by the Rovers media / marketing folks.
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Post by dido on Jul 26, 2019 5:32:10 GMT
Neither could my generation. But we were prepared to do things like use shipping pallets with a mattress as a bed until we found something that we could afford. Try convincing the sort of person who bleats on endlessly about 'how easy' it was back then to hand back all of their luxuries, cook their own food, forget holidays for at least 10 years, do all of the DIY and improvements / repairs that a house needs etc. And yes, I did go several years without seeing a Rovers' game because money was just that tight. No sympathy whatsoever for today's whining entitled snowflakes.Yeah alright, what was the ratio of your salary to your first mortgage? 3/1 ? Good luck getting that now. Sometimes you talk a bit of sense, but using terms like 'whining entitled snowflakes' just makes you seem a bit of a fool. Just my opinion of course A bit of a fool, Rex? You do Bambi a disservice there. He is more than that. Plus.....mattress on his pallets; 'sheer luxury'.
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Post by Teigngas on Jul 26, 2019 7:03:16 GMT
Gambling being seen as the norm in this country started with the introduction of the National Lottery in my opinion. It paved the way for gambling to be the norm rather than the exception.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 7:38:27 GMT
Sometimes you talk a bit of sense Steady on, there. Once a season, tops.
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Post by pirate49 on Jul 26, 2019 16:31:24 GMT
Poplar Insulation announced as back of shirt sponsors for next three years.
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Post by gastastrophe on Jul 26, 2019 17:27:58 GMT
I'm no fan of Bamber. Far from it. But anyone who thinks the likes of him or I had it any easier in our day ..... you are the true fools on here.
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Post by Rex on Jul 26, 2019 17:41:56 GMT
I'm no fan of Bamber. Far from it. But anyone who thinks the likes of him or I had it any easier in our day ..... you are the true fools on here. I have no idea how old Bamber is, or how hard his life has been, but when it comes to buying houses, I would say it was an awful lot easier for my generation (I was born in 64) than it is for the current generation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 1:42:27 GMT
Must admit i just love to see football kit with no crappy adverts on them,its great. On wider issues we should ban all advertising and the constant demand for increased production,growth etc. As a human race we need to start thinking about saving the planet earth instead of making lots of money. I would quite like to see us play in plain blue shirts and white shorts just like we did 1970 approx until 1973.
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Post by Rex on Jul 27, 2019 5:35:10 GMT
Must admit i just love to see football kit with no crappy adverts on them,its great. On wider issues we should ban all advertising and the constant demand for increased production,growth etc. As a human race we need to start thinking about saving the planet earth instead of making lots of money. I would quite like to see us play in plain blue shirts and white shorts just like we did 1970 approx until 1973. And watch the modern world as we know it collapse.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jul 27, 2019 8:25:10 GMT
Well this thread escalated quickly!
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Post by Rex on Jul 27, 2019 8:32:37 GMT
Well this thread escalated quickly! Didn't it just! I think when the 'serious stuff' discussions were banned it led to the forum being used less and less, so when something like this comes along it gets a bit more feisty! We'll be at 3 pages soon- unheard of!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 13:14:29 GMT
Anyway lovely to see plain old fashioned football kit.
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Post by splitter on Jul 28, 2019 8:15:29 GMT
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Post by Rex on Jul 28, 2019 8:21:55 GMT
I can't say I normally care about our kit, as long as its blue, but that is actually quite smart.
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Post by One F in Dunford on Jul 28, 2019 8:33:14 GMT
I can't say I normally care about our kit, as long as its blue, but that is actually quite smart. I think that is a great looking kit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 8:33:39 GMT
Quarters the Rovers (not BMW) way round: good. Back not quartered at all: bad. Blue shorts: bad, but I wouldn't buy shorts. Sponsors: I preferred Bristol Energy. Meh. Overall: maybe seven out of ten?
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