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Post by Angas on Jul 17, 2018 12:00:15 GMT
Not necessarily. KP says Tom Gorringe stepped in. Plus the poster/flyer/mailshot doesn't actually say Wael would be speaking, we just assumed. I'm no wiser. So Tom produced the original thing that KP posted on here and distributed it without Wael's knowledge? That's not how I'm reading it. But if you think it's so, maybe you should ask Tom ...
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 17, 2018 12:01:38 GMT
Here you go
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 12:04:07 GMT
But the key thing is that some will jump on whatever paltry evidence they can to whine about the current owners. Personally I think it's pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 12:47:26 GMT
I'm no wiser. So Tom produced the original thing that KP posted on here and distributed it without Wael's knowledge? That's not how I'm reading it. But if you think it's so, maybe you should ask Tom ... I'm not thinking anything, it looks like a bit of a mess, but I would have thought that Tom would have popped on here to explain that Wael knew nothing about it and was a bit miffed at the suggestion that he would have given such a presentation. Welcome to our brave new world of improved communication.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 17, 2018 12:52:39 GMT
How would many of today's supporters have coped back in the days when the only information came from The Bristol Evening Post and Green 'Un? When if you wanted to ask the Board a question you wrote (yes wrote) a letter and waited for a reply that might never come. And imagine asking the Board to tell you their long term development plans..... How if you wanted to comment on events you did so down the pub or wrote (that bloody word again) a letter to the BEP or Green 'Un and waited..... The close season would have been a nightmare for today's generation....
I'm not saying we shouldn't be able to communicate with the club (that's 21st Century life for you) or that the Board communicating is a bad thing but just because we are supporters doesn't mean that we have a right to have every detail under our noses.
There are some on the forum who have a specific anti-Board agenda and there always will be. There are always going to be those who claim to be in the know but actually aren't. For the rest of us taking a broader view there are lots of good things happening on and off the field. The CEO has stated that the renovations of the Mem haven't started yet and the recent renovations are to improve supporter match day experience and make money.... But also interestingly hasn't said that the search for a possible site / ground is over.
Whatever happens I am excited for the new season. We are building slowly (probably too slow for a lot of people) but there are definite signs of moving in the right direction. Whether that continues or not is what football is all about. I am prepared to be patient. Whether I will still be at the end of the new season is another matter.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 17, 2018 12:54:49 GMT
That's not how I'm reading it. But if you think it's so, maybe you should ask Tom ... I'm not thinking anything, it looks like a bit of a mess, but I would have thought that Tom would have popped on here to explain that Wael knew nothing about it and was a bit miffed at the suggestion that he would have given such a presentation. Welcome to our brave new world of improved communication. Basic communication is all I and other ask for, no more and no less. It’s not difficult and I will say one last time, I am not anti AQ family nor am I in any argument with WAQ, I am pro Rovers. That’s it and that’s all. Make of it what you will but, contrary to some beliefs, malicious, I’m too old, ill and fed up for that crap
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 17, 2018 12:59:31 GMT
But the key thing is that some will jump on whatever paltry evidence they can to whine about the current owners. Personally I think it's pathetic. As opposed to the key thing is that the silence is deafening regarding the training ground or stadium redevelopment. No-one forced the owner or chairman to pipe up about those matters and it's quite they won't be forced into commentating on the delays now. Very few would give a flying f whether Wael or anyone else spoke at some bogus management conference. But they do care whether he follows up his previous statements
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 13:18:50 GMT
But the key thing is that some will jump on whatever paltry evidence they can to whine about the current owners. Personally I think it's pathetic. As opposed to the key thing is that the silence is deafening regarding the training ground or stadium redevelopment. No-one forced the owner or chairman to pipe up about those matters and it's quite they won't be forced into commentating on the delays now. Very few would give a flying f whether Wael or anyone else spoke at some bogus management conference. But they do care whether he follows up his previous statements I get the frustration I really do. But there is sweet fa anyone can do about this, or anything else fans demand from the owners.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 17, 2018 13:53:04 GMT
As opposed to the key thing is that the silence is deafening regarding the training ground or stadium redevelopment. No-one forced the owner or chairman to pipe up about those matters and it's quite they won't be forced into commentating on the delays now. Very few would give a flying f whether Wael or anyone else spoke at some bogus management conference. But they do care whether he follows up his previous statements I get the frustration I really do. But there is sweet fa anyone can do about this, or anything else fans demand from the owners. Fans? I thought you had accepted we were only customers? We can as fans raise any questions we like it is up to the owners whether they ignore us or keep us informed. I'm sure if they don't keep us on board and informed that they have already identified another source of replacement customers
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 17, 2018 13:57:48 GMT
Hopefully the Board have learned a lesson. Don't mis-lead (intentionally or not) your loyal customers. I say this in respect of the 'Category 2 training facility' and the 'full Stadium redevelopment'. I think one of the reasons Martyn Starnes has been brought in is to make sure we don't have any more PR disasters like we had post UWE from W A-Q and SH. Tom Gorringe also comes across as very able. I have a feeling we will actually have less communication. But I would rather have less communication that actually contains elements of reality. Expectation management. I agree with Oldie - we can't 'demand' anything. Just have a good whinge on here every now and again and let them know we aren't stupid. UTG.
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Post by Angas on Jul 17, 2018 14:13:24 GMT
That's not how I'm reading it. But if you think it's so, maybe you should ask Tom ... I'm not thinking anything, it looks like a bit of a mess, but I would have thought that Tom would have popped on here to explain that Wael knew nothing about it and was a bit miffed at the suggestion that he would have given such a presentation. Welcome to our brave new world of improved communication. Ah, I see I was too subtle. I thought the wink might be enough. I'll make do with entertaining myself then As for Tom. Personally I don't see any need for anyone to bother correcting misinformation on here. Strikes me it'd be a full time job and I hope they've all got better things to do. Plus what would we all talk about if every false statement was put straight. I agree, I'd love to have more communication. But until they've got something definite to say anything they do publish will no doubt be torn to pieces, so I think I'd sooner wait until there's something worth hearing.
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Post by dido on Jul 17, 2018 15:02:52 GMT
How refreshing Angas....that you are able (as ever) to take a level-headed, non-confrontational,non-cryptic, non-sarcastic position and express it clearly. Brava!
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Post by droitwichgas on Jul 17, 2018 20:32:22 GMT
Hopefully the Board have learned a lesson. Don't mis-lead (intentionally or not) your loyal customers. I say this in respect of the 'Category 2 training facility' and the 'full Stadium redevelopment'. I think one of the reasons Martyn Starnes has been brought in is to make sure we don't have any more PR disasters like we had post UWE from W A-Q and SH. Tom Gorringe also comes across as very able. I have a feeling we will actually have less communication. But I would rather have less communication that actually contains elements of reality. Expectation management. I agree with Oldie - we can't 'demand' anything. Just have a good whinge on here every now and again and let them know we aren't stupid. UTG. It seems Starnes wasn't "brought in" but he invited himself into the club according to today's piece in the Bristol Post!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 21:41:06 GMT
Most of the negative people on here will be negative no matter what. They were negative under the old owners they are negative under the new owners They were negative when we were near the top of the conference They were negative during the league 2 promotion season. They have been negative since we were back in league one. If we win league one and build a new ground there will be some very sensible reason for them to be negative. Thats what negative people are like,the important thing is not to let them drag you down imo.
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Post by Angas on Jul 17, 2018 21:45:11 GMT
How refreshing Angas....that you are able (as ever) to take a level-headed, non-confrontational,non-cryptic, non-sarcastic position and express it clearly. Brava! Ha ha. I save the confrontational sarcastic stuff for the actual world rather than the virtual one these days. Less time consuming and more chance of having the last word
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 18, 2018 19:49:25 GMT
Someone fabricated that poster / flyer / mailshot or whatever it was that Jooles has on the first post in this thread? Well I never! Not necessarily. KP says Tom Gorringe stepped in. Plus the poster/flyer/mailshot doesn't actually say Wael would be speaking, we just assumed. Well, it does really. It says that the problems with the UWE would be the topic.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 18, 2018 19:51:06 GMT
Not necessarily. KP says Tom Gorringe stepped in. Plus the poster/flyer/mailshot doesn't actually say Wael would be speaking, we just assumed. I'm no wiser. So Tom produced the original thing that KP posted on here and distributed it without Wael's knowledge? Wael was going to go then had something else come up in Jordan and Tom Gorringe stepped in. It’s that simple but I think you’re just having a laugh, at least, I hope so
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 18, 2018 19:55:18 GMT
Most of the negative people on here will be negative no matter what. They were negative under the old owners they are negative under the new owners They were negative when we were near the top of the conference They were negative during the league 2 promotion season. They have been negative since we were back in league one. If we win league one and build a new ground there will be some very sensible reason for them to be negative. Thats what negative people are like,the important thing is not to let them drag you down imo. Absolute tosh
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 20:05:59 GMT
I'm no wiser. So Tom produced the original thing that KP posted on here and distributed it without Wael's knowledge? Wael was going to go then had something else come up in Jordan and Tom Gorringe stepped in. It’s that simple but I think you’re just having a laugh, at least, I hope so So Wael did intend discussing, with people not directly involved, the reasons that the UWE deal didn't happen? Oh I give up, when does the football start again?
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Post by Angas on Jul 18, 2018 21:45:01 GMT
Wael was going to go then had something else come up in Jordan and Tom Gorringe stepped in. It’s that simple but I think you’re just having a laugh, at least, I hope so So Wael did intend discussing, with people not directly involved, the reasons that the UWE deal didn't happen? I very much doubt he'd have given any more detail on "What went wrong and why the plug was eventually pulled" than we've already been told. I struggle to believe that anyone really thinks otherwise.
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