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Post by LPGas on Nov 7, 2017 11:01:39 GMT
I am a sole trader. If you don't pay within 30 days you get a warning letter. 60 days you get a letter of impending court action. 90 days you go to court. And I wouldn't care if it was Wael, the Queen or my next door neighbour. Personally if I had put up some fencing, Id go and take some of it down. Until someone pays, it's still yours
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 7, 2017 11:29:38 GMT
If it was a choice between being a tennant, paying an affordable rent, on a long tennantcy agreement or staying at the Mem. What would you choose? I would prefer UWE with freehold (as we all do). But - if it's the choice between a very long term tenancy (say 125 year) at a 20,000 capacity UWE vs stagnating in a crappy bit of Horfield... then it's a no-brainer. If Dwane Sports don't want to do it - then they need to find someone who can. I trust this is exactly what they have been doing.
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Post by Peter Parker on Nov 7, 2017 11:35:37 GMT
If it was a choice between being a tennant, paying an affordable rent, on a long tennantcy agreement or staying at the Mem. What would you choose? I would prefer UWE with freehold (as we all do). But - if it's the choice between a very long term tenancy (say 125 year) at a 20,000 capacity UWE vs stagnating in a crappy bit of Horfield... then it's a no-brainer. If Dwane Sports don't want to do it - then they need to find someone who can. I trust this is exactly what they have been doing. but again that depends on the/any revenue we are able to keep. If we were to sign up to a Coventry style situation where the only money we goy would be our ticket sales, how would that be better
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 11:38:30 GMT
At that stage and even now I am more worried about inland revenue not being paid I have no proof they haven't but if they haven't and they get wind of legal action they will jump in pretty quick. As for all the back stage appointment s I would have thought get the team sorted first before anything else because a successful team generates more money than any appointments behind the scenes. Could it be all smoke and mirrors That escalated quickly, now we’re not paying our tax so we’re going into administration. Anyone else want to guess at something to spread a few more rumours? I never said we weren't paying our tax but that I was worried if we werent
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 7, 2017 11:48:51 GMT
I would prefer UWE with freehold (as we all do). But - if it's the choice between a very long term tenancy (say 125 year) at a 20,000 capacity UWE vs stagnating in a crappy bit of Horfield... then it's a no-brainer. If Dwane Sports don't want to do it - then they need to find someone who can. I trust this is exactly what they have been doing. but again that depends on the/any revenue we are able to keep. If we were to sign up to a Coventry style situation where the only money we goy would be our ticket sales, how would that be better It wouldn't. It depend on the T&Cs. We do not know exactly why the UWE fell through. My guess is that someone else will come in and resurrect it. We will not be undergoing a refurbishment of the Mem under the Al-Qadis. Our hope remains a future at the UWE.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 12:59:00 GMT
surely that depends on which one is going to generate the best/allow BRFC to keep the best revenue it can
Would you change your mortgage to a rental agreement just because it lowered your monthly payment? depends what i could use my new home for and who would keep the money generated by it
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 7, 2017 12:59:01 GMT
so, one scenario.......
DS were looking for a club to buy. Rovers' court case fails, meaning that they are cheap and fit the profile. With 'security' in the form of the Mem, and the promise of UWE, they act fast
subsequently they find out a range of things including but not limited to....
running a football club is much harder than it looks (a la Lord Sugar, as well as doubtless many others) the UWE deal wasn't what they thought/hoped - and that was a cornerstone of their original plan Wael was happy as a pig in wotsit, but the bankers weren't
so the bankers decided to lock down their current commitment while looking for a buyer. Meanwhile, as an important part of the shop window, the club is seen to progress visibly in terms of the squad and the management, and Wael continues to demonstrate how it can be managed to pay off long term, which might or might not include a bit of puffery about the potential of the Mem
plausible, but not necessarily accurate?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 13:00:32 GMT
That escalated quickly, now we’re not paying our tax so we’re going into administration. Anyone else want to guess at something to spread a few more rumours? I never said we weren't paying our tax but that I was worried if we werent why ?
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 7, 2017 13:29:33 GMT
Would you change your mortgage to a rental agreement just because it lowered your monthly payment? depends what i could use my new home for and who would keep the money generated by it only if he could use the new home as cuckooing and the homeowner could take a percentage of deals completed !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 14:03:07 GMT
Without trying to be a cheeky sod, there's no actual proof in any of the allegations on this thread. It's merely someone saying that this has happened. Now it may have, it may not have, it probably has but to claim there's proof shown on this thread is clearly turnips.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 14:49:24 GMT
I never said we weren't paying our tax but that I was worried if we werent why ? So you wouldn't be worried if we werent paying the tax man. They have threatened to liquidate many clubs overs the last few years but accepted deals.eventually one club will fall foul that's why I am or could be worried
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 16:07:59 GMT
Would you change your mortgage to a rental agreement just because it lowered your monthly payment? depends what i could use my new home for and who would keep the money generated by it Fair enough, but the question did kind of assume that all other elements remained constant
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Post by PessimistGas on Nov 7, 2017 16:09:20 GMT
Without trying to be a cheeky sod, there's no actual proof in any of the allegations on this thread. It's merely someone saying that this has happened. Now it may have, it may not have, it probably has but to claim there's proof shown on this thread is clearly turnips. What constitutes proof? An official statement from the club?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 16:28:46 GMT
Without trying to be a cheeky sod, there's no actual proof in any of the allegations on this thread. It's merely someone saying that this has happened. Now it may have, it may not have, it probably has but to claim there's proof shown on this thread is clearly turnips. What constitutes proof? An official statement from the club? I mean, I'm after a bit more than forum user bs5 starting a thread.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 16:32:43 GMT
So you wouldn't be worried if we werent paying the tax man. They have threatened to liquidate many clubs overs the last few years but accepted deals.eventually one club will fall foul that's why I am or could be worried yes but why have you suddenly come up with not paying tax ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 16:33:42 GMT
What constitutes proof? An official statement from the club? I mean, I'm after a bit more than forum user bs5 starting a thread. knowing bs5 hes not your average forum bulls**tter
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Post by PessimistGas on Nov 7, 2017 16:42:36 GMT
What constitutes proof? An official statement from the club? I mean, I'm after a bit more than forum user bs5 starting a thread. It's a bit more than one thread and it's more than one person. There is a body of circumstantial evidence that has been mushrooming since at least August, and actually some time before. I understand the need to try think the think the best of things and make excuses, it's not a nice feeling.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 7, 2017 16:54:11 GMT
so, one scenario....... DS were looking for a club to buy. Rovers' court case fails, meaning that they are cheap and fit the profile. With 'security' in the form of the Mem, and the promise of UWE, they act fast subsequently they find out a range of things including but not limited to.... running a football club is much harder than it looks (a la Lord Sugar, as well as doubtless many others) the UWE deal wasn't what they thought/hoped - and that was a cornerstone of their original plan Wael was happy as a pig in wotsit, but the bankers weren't so the bankers decided to lock down their current commitment while looking for a buyer. Meanwhile, as an important part of the shop window, the club is seen to progress visibly in terms of the squad and the management, and Wael continues to demonstrate how it can be managed to pay off long term, which might or might not include a bit of puffery about the potential of the Mem plausible, but not necessarily accurate? Very plausible, and exactly as I see it. "Bit of puffery".
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Post by PessimistGas on Nov 7, 2017 17:00:54 GMT
so, one scenario....... DS were looking for a club to buy. Rovers' court case fails, meaning that they are cheap and fit the profile. With 'security' in the form of the Mem, and the promise of UWE, they act fast subsequently they find out a range of things including but not limited to.... running a football club is much harder than it looks (a la Lord Sugar, as well as doubtless many others) the UWE deal wasn't what they thought/hoped - and that was a cornerstone of their original plan Wael was happy as a pig in wotsit, but the bankers weren't so the bankers decided to lock down their current commitment while looking for a buyer. Meanwhile, as an important part of the shop window, the club is seen to progress visibly in terms of the squad and the management, and Wael continues to demonstrate how it can be managed to pay off long term, which might or might not include a bit of puffery about the potential of the Mem plausible, but not necessarily accurate? Very plausible, and exactly as I see it. "Bit of puffery". More plausible than the increasingly inventive excuses.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 17:26:28 GMT
Very plausible, and exactly as I see it. "Bit of puffery". More plausible than the increasingly inventive excuses. I think it’s fairly close to where we are.
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