harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 17, 2017 16:57:58 GMT
Well that's me told then. Wonder when they changed that rule. we need to keep the riff raft out....genuine paid up fans only (thats a joke by the way) before I get death threats
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Post by pirate49 on Oct 17, 2017 17:11:18 GMT
'There are no elections again this year with no applications being received before the June 30th deadline. With Brian Seymour Smith announcing his resignation since that date this leaves us short of a Director on the Board and we will be discussing this situation with Football Club Chairman, Steve Hamer, over the coming weeks.'
So that's clarified then! (Anyone notice/remember a June 30th deadline?)
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 17, 2017 17:35:43 GMT
'There are no elections again this year with no applications being received before the June 30th deadline. With Brian Seymour Smith announcing his resignation since that date this leaves us short of a Director on the Board and we will be discussing this situation with Football Club Chairman, Steve Hamer, over the coming weeks.' So that's clarified then! (Anyone notice/remember a June 30th deadline?) With Chris Walker vice chair resigning and the former treasurer found guilty of taking funds due to online gambling addiction ...the committee is very light to say the least. Surely time for Pirate49 to offer his services ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 18:01:26 GMT
'There are no elections again this year with no applications being received before the June 30th deadline. With Brian Seymour Smith announcing his resignation since that date this leaves us short of a Director on the Board and we will be discussing this situation with Football Club Chairman, Steve Hamer, over the coming weeks.' So that's clarified then! (Anyone notice/remember a June 30th deadline?) This might be one for Angas. I'd assumed that BSS was not seeking re-election, rather than resigning, though I'm ready to believe I was wrong. Either way, though: If he's not seeking re-election, then that presupposes an election was due (with a request for nominations, which BSS would sit out); If he's resigned mid-term, surely there are procedures for that. What happened post Kim? Either way, what are they discussing with the FC Chairman? Or is all this like trying to find a sequential logic in the output of a random number generator, and bugger agreements and procedures?
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Post by droitwichgas on Oct 17, 2017 18:24:35 GMT
'There are no elections again this year with no applications being received before the June 30th deadline. With Brian Seymour Smith announcing his resignation since that date this leaves us short of a Director on the Board and we will be discussing this situation with Football Club Chairman, Steve Hamer, over the coming weeks.' So that's clarified then! (Anyone notice/remember a June 30th deadline?) This might be one for Angas. I'd assumed that BSS was not seeking re-election, rather than resigning, though I'm ready to believe I was wrong. Either way, though: If he's not seeking re-election, then that presupposes an election was due (with a request for nominations, which BSS would sit out); If he's resigned mid-term, surely there are procedures for that. What happened post Kim? Either way, what are they discussing with the FC Chairman? Or is all this like trying to find a sequential logic in the output of a random number generator, and bugger agreements and procedures? BSS has simply not stood for re-election, that being the case it seems odd there's been no appeals for new candidates on either of the forums or on the BRFCSC's own website prior to the 30th June deadline? As you say what's the FD got to do with the FC Chairman! Never mind at least we've still got KM as our FD!!!
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Post by Angas on Oct 17, 2017 18:25:55 GMT
I don't recall seeing any publicity on the subject, but then again I don't pay much attention these days. I believe BSS said he was "standing down" but I'd take that to mean "not standing for re-election". He's done 6 years he says (having only intended to do 3), so I guess this is the end of his second term.
Rules relating:-
5. BRSC Elections 5.1 A request for nominations for election to Officer and Committee posts will be issued by the Chairperson by 31st May each year via the following media: 5.1.1 BRSC Newsletter 5.1.2 BRSC website 5.1.3 At a minimum of one BRFC Matchday prior to 31st May - via programme, PA announcements and posters in all bar facilities 5.2 Anyone wishing to stand for election must be a fully paid up member (and in the case of the post of Chairperson having served on the EC for a period of at least one year) and complete a Nomination Form (See Appendix E). 5.3 Elections shall be held at the following frequency: BRSC Chairperson - every 2nd AGM BRSC elected BRFC Director(s) - every 3rd AGM BRSCSS Chairperson - every 2nd AGM Treasurer - every 3rd AGM Secretary - every 3rd AGM Ordinary EC members - every 2nd AGM 5.4 The positions referred to in 5.3 will be elected by postal
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Post by Angas on Oct 17, 2017 18:30:49 GMT
Just skimmed BSS's statement. He actually intended to stand for 5 years, not 3 as I thought. There's no clue as to when he would have informed the committee. "My intention was to stand for five years and then make way for someone else. However, with the changes which took place regarding the Football Club ownership, I decided to stay a year longer to try to offer stability. As the Football Club continues to move forward, I believe now is the time to step down. Both the Board of Bristol Rovers FC and the Executive of Bristol Rovers Supporters Club have been made fully aware of this decision." bristolroverssc.co.uk/2017/09/24/brians-blog-14/
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Post by Angas on Oct 17, 2017 18:36:45 GMT
Well that's me told then. Wonder when they changed that rule. we need to keep the riff raft out....genuine paid up fans only (thats a joke by the way) before I get death threats You're missing the point. 8.2 All people who were BRSC members for the season to which the AGM coverswill be given no less than 14 days notice by post (or other method of communication deemed appropriate by the EC) of the date, time and venue of the AGM. Admittance to the AGM shall be on production of that year’s membership card.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 19:15:59 GMT
Well it all seems very complicated: if Diector elections are every three years, how can anyone aim to serve for 5 years? Haven't the two previously been elected in different years? I'm sure both have been re-elected: what was the schedule of past elections?*
When all's said and done: person stands down; person needs replacing; organise replacement. They've not organised replacement but have discussed things (!) with the FC chairman. That smacks of 'shall we bother any more?' to me. If so, I think that's a discussion that should be shared before it's progressed.
* Angas and/or anyone else: Sorry to be hopeless, and if you can't be arsed to look it up any more than I can, I don't blame you, and feel free not to bother. 10% of my inaction is down to not knowing where to look, 60% is from dread at the feeling of numbness setting in as I did so, and 20% each is down to 1) sheer idleness and 7) innumeracy.
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Post by Angas on Oct 17, 2017 19:52:31 GMT
The following members were elected under the previous constitution at the 2014 Annual Meeting: BRSC Director: Mr. B. Seymour-Smith. Ken was re-elected in 2015 I believe. Not sure how BSS could have planned to serve for five years (unless it's something to do with being BRSCSS Chairman (is he?) - elections for that position are every 2 years according to 5.3 above.) Presumably he'd intended to resign before the end of his term. Either way, he would have had to stand for re-election this year so you'd expect to find requests for nominations somewhere on the SC website. I've looked all the way back to May but have failed to find anything other than a couple of appeals for committee members - bristolroverssc.co.uk/2017/05/05/would-you-like-to-join-our-committee/ - No mention of Fans' Director applications at as far as I can see. *No, I can't be arsed either. But the commentary's making painful listening. The SC website seems to be the lesser of two evils right now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 21:31:02 GMT
I saw the half time score on here, so went away. Having braved coming back, the full-time score was quite a relief.
On the other subject, it seems then that BSS broke the binary options and neither stood down mid term, nor not stand for re-election; he just sort of expired. An election was due this year and they haven't called it. It sounds like the SS is being left to die and swept under the carpet. Not with a bang.... What does that make Ken? Lame duck? The unexpired? Neither here nor there?
Addressing the farce would be no bad thing, and if that means talking to the FC chairman, fair enough, but I think they should be a bit more up front about it and not just ignore the rules and muddle through as if it doesn't matter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 21:47:42 GMT
I saw the half time score on here, so went away. Having braved coming back, the full-time score was quite a relief. On the other subject, it seems then that BSS broke the binary options and neither stood down mid term, nor not stand for re-election; he just sort of expired. An election was due this year and they haven't called it. It sounds like the SS is being left to die and swept under the carpet. Not with a bang.... What does that make Ken? Lame duck? The unexpired? Neither here nor there? Addressing the farce would be no bad thing, and if that means talking to the FC chairman, fair enough, but I think they should be a bit more up front about it and not just ignore the rules and muddle through as if it doesn't matter. Shouldn't they seek a mandate from Share Scheme subscribers to discuss a fundamental change with the scheme and the way our million quid is represented? Then again, this is the SC we are talking about
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 19, 2017 7:19:55 GMT
BRSC AGM tonight at 730pm then fans forum with Hamer and Stewart. Remember your membership card
Who has their questions ready for Jim and Marcus etc?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 19, 2017 7:54:21 GMT
That’s done by the bloody manufacturer of the item. Dell, for instance, just one of the many who have a kill switch type thing built into their laptops. It was first discovered in printers and then in many other tech products. It’s so wrong and it was said laws were being introduced to combat this but I don’t hear of them just yet. Build your own, I do. If I can do it and especially with how oafishly clumsy I am, you can do it too. My main problem used to be breaking the clips that hold the processor chip in place. Luckily I was being mentored by someone so was able to practice on old kit. I have an old desktop I built in 2002 & it’s a RAID motherboard. I still occasionally use it as I now use it just to hold all 350 plus gigabit of my music on it & as a server if I ever get any problems with my set up now. I bet Henbury Gas Gas would help you is that all LOL I have a NAS drive which has 3 Tb of music, all converted from new & 2nd Hand CD purchased in Charity Shops But yes i will help any Gashead with a computer problem at vastly discounted rates when the come into my shop with some form of Gashead clothing on... I thought I had a huge collection of music. I ripped all of my CD to lossless or flac. What format did you choose Ian ? I find that many of the other formats just don’t record in high enough quality & audio is my passion. I dare to even start to think what I have spent of firstly separates and then finding avihifi.com and buying their DM10 active speakers. They have two amplifiers in each speaker, one at 250 W pc for bass and mid range and one at 150 for higher frequency. They have a dual wolfson and burr brown DAC system built in and a fantastic preamp. You just stream from any device you have. I use an Apple TV to stream to and then use TOSLINK/SODIF/optical out and to the speakers. You could yoU an airport express. I love these speakers and wouldn’t part with them. I’ e had LINN, NAIM, ARCAM, AUDIOLAB & many more but none come close to this set up. 3TB is just greedy Henbury Gas Gas
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 19, 2017 8:27:24 GMT
is that all LOL I have a NAS drive which has 3 Tb of music, all converted from new & 2nd Hand CD purchased in Charity Shops But yes i will help any Gashead with a computer problem at vastly discounted rates when the come into my shop with some form of Gashead clothing on... I thought I had a huge collection of music. I ripped all of my CD to lossless or flac. What format did you choose Ian ? I find that many of the other formats just don’t record in high enough quality & audio is my passion. I dare to even start to think what I have spent of firstly separates and then finding avihifi.com and buying their DM10 active speakers. They have two amplifiers in each speaker, one at 250 W pc for bass and mid range and one at 150 for higher frequency. They have a dual wolfson and burr brown DAC system built in and a fantastic preamp. You just stream from any device you have. I use an Apple TV to stream to and then use TOSLINK/SODIF/optical out and to the speakers. You could yoU an airport express. I love these speakers and wouldn’t part with them. I’ e had LINN, NAIM, ARCAM, AUDIOLAB & many more but none come close to this set up. 3TB is just greedy Henbury Gas Gas Ahh a man after my own heart ! Yes i have spent a small fortune in the past started in the 1970s with my first system of Teleton Amp, Garrard turntable and Wolfdale speakers ! Moved onto Rega Turntable, TEAC Cassette recorder, AR A60 Amp and mordaunt short Speakers...... Then the digital Age got to me and i purchased the first CD player to hit the market, Phillips CD101... also purchased one of the first CD's to hit the market, Dire Straits Love over Gold. it was a AAD disc which is a collectors item now... Moved onto DAT Tape and Mini Disc as well..... I record all my music in FLAC if i can and play back for my Computer system with High end ASUS sound card and mordaunt short Speakers Happy days !
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 19, 2017 10:58:26 GMT
BRSC AGM tonight at 730pm then fans forum with Hamer and Stewart. Remember your membership card Who has their questions ready for Jim and Marcus etc? Perhaps the SC executive committe or the expiring BSS can ask steve Hamee about all the rumours of our impending doom as there is no money to do anything
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 11:02:20 GMT
I saw the half time score on here, so went away. Having braved coming back, the full-time score was quite a relief. On the other subject, it seems then that BSS broke the binary options and neither stood down mid term, nor not stand for re-election; he just sort of expired. An election was due this year and they haven't called it. It sounds like the SS is being left to die and swept under the carpet. Not with a bang.... What does that make Ken? Lame duck? The unexpired? Neither here nor there? Addressing the farce would be no bad thing, and if that means talking to the FC chairman, fair enough, but I think they should be a bit more up front about it and not just ignore the rules and muddle through as if it doesn't matter. Shouldn't they seek a mandate from Share Scheme subscribers to discuss a fundamental change with the scheme and the way our million quid is represented? Then again, this is the SC we are talking about My guess is that this reflects a recognition that the role is pointless, that the FC board rarely if ever meets, so there's not really anything to elect anyone to. If that is the case, it's effectively the situation as before, minus the bullshot and going through the motions. It aligns with what Kim said 11 years ago. The question then would be what channels / consultation should be in place between the FC 'governance' (which isn't - maybe - a board of Directors) and the supporters. That might include (from the FC's point of view) whether that should be via the minority, underwhelming, and uppity SC. IF so, it's probably fair enough and a step forward, but something should have been said (maybe through the Directors' reports that they're supposed to do) before - some time during the last 20 months and certainly before they decided not to run the election, or to mention that. But hey, all might become clearer tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 11:14:39 GMT
Can't go tonight. Would someone please ask Mr Hamer if he agrees that Kenny Boy Masters needs a new suit and a pair of hair clippers?
Regards, Brad Pitt's brother. Cess.
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Post by pirate49 on Oct 19, 2017 11:41:53 GMT
It's the William Hartnell look.
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 19, 2017 14:41:11 GMT
....is it true BSS has won the euro lottery and is buying every attendee, even Kingswood a drink at tonight's meeting and donating some of his winnings to DC to buy Taylor back from the dark side for £5m come January the 1st.
But good news. Tom has sorted the pies so can he now sort the small matter of development of the Mem?
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