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Feb 19, 2016 19:33:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 19:33:43 GMT
1. How does this change Bristol Rovers' stadium plans? 2. Will the South Gloucestershire UWE stadium proceed? 3. Could a new stadium instead be built in Bristol? 4. Could a new stadium ever be built in Eastville?
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Feb 19, 2016 19:42:14 GMT
Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 19, 2016 19:42:14 GMT
The UWE will be built. The New Chairman stated they want to buy the land from UWE plus a bit near it for commercial use
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Feb 19, 2016 19:47:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 19:47:46 GMT
1. It doesn't. 2. Yes. 3. Bristol will grow. 4. Obviously not.
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Feb 19, 2016 20:02:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 20:02:36 GMT
1. It doesn't. 2. Yes. 3. Bristol will grow. 4. Obviously not. 1. Do today's revelations not reduce Rovers' dependence on UWE's involvement? 2. Is there anything left to stop building work commencing at UWE? 3. What commerce/industry/community/employment will develop around the UWE? 4. How long is ever? And why obviously?
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Feb 19, 2016 20:06:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 20:06:14 GMT
1. It doesn't. 2. Yes. 3. Bristol will grow. 4. Obviously not. 1. Do today's revelations not reduce Rovers' dependence on UWE's involvement? 2. Is there anything left to stop building work commencing at UWE? 3. What commerce/industry/community/employment will develop around the UWE? 4. How long is ever? And why obviously? 1. The new chairman has said they will talk with UWE about Freehold rather than lease. 2. See above and they have also said waiting outcome of court. 3. They want to build two strips of land next to UWE. 4. Why when we will have UWE, it is not far from Eastville / Lockleaze.
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Feb 19, 2016 20:20:56 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 20:20:56 GMT
1. Do today's revelations not reduce Rovers' dependence on UWE's involvement? 2. Is there anything left to stop building work commencing at UWE? 3. What commerce/industry/community/employment will develop around the UWE? 4. How long is ever? And why obviously? 1. The new chairman has said they will talk with UWE about Freehold rather than lease. 2. See above and they have also said waiting outcome of court. 3. They want to build two strips of land next to UWE. 4. Why when we will have UWE, it is not far from Eastville / Lockleaze. Would the UWE stadium not proceed now regardless of a dispute with a supermarket landbuyer? If so, then why wait? On the other wing, UWE may not be far to fly or drive, but it is further to walk for all species.
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Feb 19, 2016 20:34:27 GMT
Post by Bridgeman on Feb 19, 2016 20:34:27 GMT
1. The new chairman has said they will talk with UWE about Freehold rather than lease. 2. See above and they have also said waiting outcome of court. 3. They want to build two strips of land next to UWE. 4. Why when we will have UWE, it is not far from Eastville / Lockleaze. Would the UWE stadium not proceed now regardless of a dispute with a supermarket landbuyer? If so, then why wait? On the other wing, UWE may not be far to fly or drive, but it is further to walk for all species. How far away will UWE be from the Mem, are there any pubs near to it ? One assumes there will retail opportunities created as part of the development with supporters shop, separate supporters bars etc to improve the match day experience.
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Feb 19, 2016 20:40:14 GMT
Post by lostinspace on Feb 19, 2016 20:40:14 GMT
is there not a clause in the UWE'S funding rules that the stadium /or the footage area is not for sale to "other parties" and that the proposed stadium is for lease only, with access to parts for the users of the Uni'
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Feb 19, 2016 20:40:51 GMT
Post by strung out on Feb 19, 2016 20:40:51 GMT
Would the UWE stadium not proceed now regardless of a dispute with a supermarket landbuyer? If so, then why wait? On the other wing, UWE may not be far to fly or drive, but it is further to walk for all species. How far away will UWE be from the Mem, are there any pubs near to it ? One assumes there will retail opportunities created as part of the development with supporters shop, separate supporters bars etc to improve the match day experience. The site of the UWE stadium is about a mile and a half away from the Mem as the crow flies.
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Feb 19, 2016 20:42:59 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 20:42:59 GMT
1. The new chairman has said they will talk with UWE about Freehold rather than lease. 2. See above and they have also said waiting outcome of court. 3. They want to build two strips of land next to UWE. 4. Why when we will have UWE, it is not far from Eastville / Lockleaze. Would the UWE stadium not proceed now regardless of a dispute with a supermarket landbuyer? If so, then why wait? On the other wing, UWE may not be far to fly or drive, but it is further to walk for all species. They want to build the UWE on freehold terms (as in own the land) not on a 900 year lease from UWE. I would expect as well that if they own the land it then means they can name the stadium. As talks have been confirmed to have been going on since September last year I expect that things will happen. The dispute as you put it could still mean that the club gets compensation, they also need to know the outcome as we will need somewhere to play whilst new stadium is being built.
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Feb 19, 2016 20:54:28 GMT
Post by Topper Gas on Feb 19, 2016 20:54:28 GMT
Suggestion by the new Chairman on 20men's show was the court is irrelevant (perhaps everybody's accepts we've lost?) but the club just need time to consider all the stadium plans before proceeding, lets hope when they discuss matters with the UWE they don't find loads of issues with whatever NH has agreed with them.
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Feb 19, 2016 21:07:02 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 21:07:02 GMT
Would the UWE stadium not proceed now regardless of a dispute with a supermarket landbuyer? If so, then why wait? On the other wing, UWE may not be far to fly or drive, but it is further to walk for all species. They want to build the UWE on freehold terms (as in own the land) not on a 900 year lease from UWE. I would expect as well that if they own the land it then means they can name the stadium. As talks have been confirmed to have been going on since September last year I expect that things will happen. The dispute as you put it could still mean that the club gets compensation, they also need to know the outcome as we will need somewhere to play whilst new stadium is being built. Will freehold and absolute ownership by BRFC really be acceptable to UWE? What would it otherwise be called? I'm still not sure why the dispute as I put it should now delay breaking ground. If you're rich enough, being lumbered with unneeded land in BS7 seems to me unlikely to bring anything but greater profit on the long run, hence landbanking by supermarkets. With wealth comes independence, with which comes patience, with which comes more wealth.
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Feb 19, 2016 21:22:38 GMT
Post by laughinggas on Feb 19, 2016 21:22:38 GMT
How far away will UWE be from the Mem, are there any pubs near to it ? One assumes there will retail opportunities created as part of the development with supporters shop, separate supporters bars etc to improve the match day experience. The site of the UWE stadium is about a mile and a half away from the Mem as the crow flies. But that's a sober crow!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 21:33:42 GMT
The site of the UWE stadium is about a mile and a half away from the Mem as the crow flies. But that's a sober crow! How dare you? I'm often sober, and quite clearly a duck.
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Feb 19, 2016 21:38:16 GMT
Post by lostinspace on Feb 19, 2016 21:38:16 GMT
How dare you? I'm often sober, and quite clearly a duck. now if you were a newt....................
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 21:40:49 GMT
How dare you? I'm often sober, and quite clearly a duck. now if you were a newt.................... I might eat myself. Not in a dirty way.
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Feb 19, 2016 21:48:14 GMT
Post by LPGas on Feb 19, 2016 21:48:14 GMT
Would the UWE stadium not proceed now regardless of a dispute with a supermarket landbuyer? If so, then why wait? On the other wing, UWE may not be far to fly or drive, but it is further to walk for all species. How far away will UWE be from the Mem, are there any pubs near to it ? One assumes there will retail opportunities created as part of the development with supporters shop, separate supporters bars etc to improve the match day experience. Brigey mate I reckon you will be able to catch the train over to the Abbey station. I know if it takes trains from WSM that's how I would get there
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Post by Captain Jayho on Feb 19, 2016 21:49:46 GMT
Have just watched the interviews with Wael and Steve Hamer. Have to say that Wael is remarkably understated for a rich middle-eastern chap - not what I was expecting at all. Seems like a genuine guy who understands the long haul that it might take to make progress.
With regard to the stadium he was very committed to the club needing a new stadium but awfully non-committal about whether UWE would be that stadium. I think part of it is that he doesn't want to promise what he can't 100% guarantee delivery of - that came through when he was asked about a number of other topics as well. But I picked up a genuine question mark over the building of UWE from the way he responded. You have to wonder if he has other ideas. He seems like a pretty shrewd businessman and if the length of time they've been doing due diligence on the club for is any guage then we could be in for a bit of a wait on the stadium.
It's an interesting question regarding the freehold on the stadium land because wasn't one of the benefits with the lease of the land from UWE so that the stadium couldn't be asset-stripped from the club at any stage in the future? Or am I just making that up? I can't see how the UWE will change their minds about this and I do wonder if we're in for some pretty protracted negotiations and ultimately a possible change of plan.
On balance I am pretty happy though - he certainly isn't trying to talk up what he's going to do and seems realistic about re-structuring and building a solid base for the club rather than shouting from the rooftops how we'll be in the champions league in 5 years time. He also baulked when asked if he'd still be here in 5-10 years, saying he thought the question would be more like 50 years!
Proof in pudding of course but quietly optimistic.
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Feb 19, 2016 21:58:42 GMT
Post by LPGas on Feb 19, 2016 21:58:42 GMT
They want the free hold and two strips of land next to the ground for commercial development. I suspect a hotel with a nice top floor
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Feb 19, 2016 22:01:00 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 22:01:00 GMT
With regard to the stadium he was very committed to the club needing a new stadium but awfully non-committal about whether UWE would be that stadium. I think part of it is that he doesn't want to promise what he can't 100% guarantee delivery of - that came through when he was asked about a number of other topics as well. But I picked up a genuine question mark over the building of UWE from the way he responded. You have to wonder if he has other ideas. He seems like a pretty shrewd businessman and if the length of time they've been doing due diligence on the club for is any guage then we could be in for a bit of a wait on the stadium. I take your point, and alternative ideas to the UWE might be interesting too, but do you not suspect that being a club with a potentially greater attendance with planning permission for a greater stadium is what makes Rovers a greater investment opportunity than some other clubs? Or do you suspect another reason the Al Qadi family chose Rovers?
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