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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 20:03:19 GMT
What does Tubbs offer ahead of Gaffney, Taylor and Easter? I'd sooner spare the budget in case we need someone good on loan during the run in.
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Post by The Concept on Jan 17, 2016 20:05:43 GMT
Two-fold: - Ellis is getting frustrated and wanted some game time (and we need him getting some game time). - We need him to bang some goals in at Accrington on Tuesday night :-)
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 17, 2016 20:28:09 GMT
I see it more as DC making himself crystal clear that there is no issues with the player and he isn't forcing him out. Ellis has a loyal fan club, the manager is making sure that he doesn't get an undeserved whipping because he let him go up to Hartlepool. I'm hoping that the final piece in the transfer jigsaw is the signing of Tubbs, that would be a masterstroke by Higgs, and a huge final statement that he has given his manager 100% backing. I'm not a fan of Higgs, but he could win back a huge number of supporters in this window. Don't forget the same Nick Higgs who brought in Alan Gow and got rid of our only attacking threat, that showed any real enthusiasm in Eliot Richards. I always worry when the chairmen are involved. This, in my opinion, really should be a managers shout. I don't see why we couldn't keep Ellis. I feel that in Gaffney, we have a players that will allow players such as Taylor and Harrison the time and space to shine but there you go. This is Bristol Rovers eh, a club where the opportunity to interrupt and irritate is never passed by
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Post by Peter Parker on Jan 17, 2016 20:32:39 GMT
Taylor and Gaffney are first chice with Easter on the bench.
Ellis is fourth choice at best and can understand if he wants to play more games.
We have Bodin as an option upfront
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jan 17, 2016 20:39:42 GMT
Lawrence should be avail' next Sat and if Tubbs signs what a great prospect.Got our tickets for Muff and should be a full house.Well done everyone to-day.Leadbitter on a free from Hereford.Wow.Can't wait for Sat.Well done DC.Not a lot of dosh to play with but thee bist doin' gert Lush my babber.
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Post by gass on Jan 17, 2016 20:55:45 GMT
Sorry if I'm missing something, but where has this Tubbs talk come from?
I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 21:01:15 GMT
Sorry if I'm missing something, but where has this Tubbs talk come from? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere? Its an old-school rumour, not on the internet.
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Post by dido on Jan 17, 2016 21:16:12 GMT
"...- We need him to bang some goals in at Accrington on Tuesday night :-)..."
Surely he'll not want to miss the match at Asht*n G*te?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 21:25:45 GMT
Ellis is only going for a month. Darrell does not want Ellis to go but understands Ellis is frustrated with lack of football so had relucantly agreed to let him go out to out and get game time. Darrell said he chose Hartlepool for his loan destination as they are playing our rivals this month and Ellis wants to try and help us by scoring past them. When asked if we are short up front, Darrell replied that Bodin can play up front if needed. If it gets desperate then will look at getting in a player on loan. But Ellis is only going for a month so the chances of us getting desperate is unlikely.
This doesnt sound like there is an issue between Darrell and Ellis. It also doesnt sound like we have financial issues as suggested by some. It also sounds like Tubbs will not be joining us.
Can we just not make a deal out of this and instead see the good intentions by Ellis wanting game time to prove he is ready for more chances at Rovers and good intentions from Darrell making Ellis understand he is wanted but gave Ellis what he wants, showing they get on just fine.
Move on, nothing to see here. Good luck Ellis and see you soon.
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Post by matealotblue on Jan 17, 2016 21:31:47 GMT
Ellis is only going for a month. Darrell does not want Ellis to go but understands Ellis is frustrated with lack of football so had relucantly agreed to let him go out to out and get game time. Darrell said he chose Hartlepool for his loan destination as they are playing our rivals this month and Ellis wants to try and help us by scoring past them. When asked if we are short up front, Darrell replied that Bodin can play up front if needed. If it gets desperate then will look at getting in a player on loan. But Ellis is only going for a month so the chances of us getting desperate is unlikely. This doesnt sound like there is an issue between Darrell and Ellis. It also doesnt sound like we have financial issues as suggested by some. It also sounds like Tubbs will not be joining us. Can we just not make a deal out of this and instead see the good intentions by Ellis wanting game time to prove he is ready for more chances at Rovers and good intentions from Darrell making Ellis understand he is wanted but gave Ellis what he wants, showing they get on just fine.Move on, nothing to see here. Good luck Ellis and see you soon. At last. The situation is explained in clear words. Thought DC made it quite clear in his statement. But guess people wish to see it differently for whatever reason.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 22:12:50 GMT
That's nice and fluffy, and I've no doubt that Ellis and Darrell get on just fine together, but if DC rated him as a decent option up front for us, he wouldn't be going out on loan right now. "Good intentions" or not.
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Post by matealotblue on Jan 17, 2016 22:38:52 GMT
And if he didn't he'd be sold not loaned. I guess??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 22:40:11 GMT
That's nice and fluffy, and I've no doubt that Ellis and Darrell get on just fine together, but if DC rated him as a decent option up front for us, he wouldn't be going out on loan right now. "Good intentions" or not. Darrell has made it clear that he doesnt want Ellis to go because he is an important squad player. But Ellis has made it clear that he wants a run of starting games because he needs game time. Rory and Matty are Darrell's front 2. Its hard to argue anything different to that. Easter is very capable of filling in and as Darrell said, Bodin can do so too. Personally I am delighted that Ellis is wanting to go out to get game time instead of being happy to sit on the bench getting 5 minutes here and there. Shows he is hungry. Remember, its just a month. Not for the rest of the season. Whats wrong with letting a player leave to get game time for a month, in the hope that he come back in fine form and obviously more happier too. Then he will be ready for the run in for the rest of the season with us. And if he doesnt return in fine form, at least he comes back with minutes under his belt. I can see nothing but positive from this. Why make an issue out of it? Seems strange to me. We just beat 3rd place Oxford, moved up to 4th in the league and something so understandable is happening to Ellis, that can only benefit him and us too, but conspiracy theories about Ellis and Darrell seem more important to some. Lets say Darrell said no to Ellis. Then what? We will have a unhappy Ellis still not getting enough game time to keep him happy. What benefit will that be to him and the club?
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Post by alloutofgas on Jan 17, 2016 22:43:34 GMT
We can always recall him!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 22:55:29 GMT
There's no conspiracy theory, but you won't convince me we're 'better off' for having loaned a good player out at a pivotal point in the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 22:55:27 GMT
If Rory, Matty and Easter fail to impress over this next month and if Ellis bangs them in for Hartlepool, it would be very hard for Darrell to leave Ellis out of the starting 11 when he returns. Darrell will get credit for allowing Ellis to go get match sharp and form and Ellis will get credit for proving himself.
If Rory, Matty and Easter all do well over this next month and if Ellis bangs them in for Hartlepool, it would be great have 4 inform strikers ready for the run in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 23:05:01 GMT
Or, he goes there and doesn't play.
Or, he goes there and performs poorly.
Or, he goes there, scores a boatload and doesn't want to come back.
Lots of things could happen, but in the meantime it leaves us a player short on the bench.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 17, 2016 23:05:20 GMT
I haven't heard any of the radio interview but it would appear Ellis is unlikely to start for us as 1st or 2nd choice striker. Ellis will get game time to get his fitness up for when he returns, he has gone to a team that is of no competition to us but could be playing against teams who are around us in the league and could potentially affect the result in our favour. I hope he does well and comes back fighting for a place in the team, we might still need him in the run in. I think getting Tubbs is a red herring unless he is prepared to take a large drop in salary. Lets give praise where this is due.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 23:13:16 GMT
There's no conspiracy theory, but you won't convince me we're 'better off' for having loaned a good player out at a pivotal point in the season. Thats fine, if I cant convince you then fair enough. Just seems strange to me that you rather have a good player being unhappy about his lack of game time. If he is not in Darrell's starting 11 plans for the next month then please answer where is the harm of him going out on loan to get the game time he needs meaning he comes back happy and hopefully proved himself to Darrell that he can start games? You dont seem to be answering questions put forth to you. You mention its a pivotal point of the season but if he aint in Darrell's starting 11 plans for the next month anyway then where is the harm? Only negative thing I can see is he comes back injured. But there is a lot more positives than this negative. Say he comes back injured. Darrell has already said he can loan in another player and we got cover with Bodin too. You mention 'better off'.... how about he will be fitter? how about he will be happier? what about if he scores past Accrington, Cambridge, Notts Co and Exeter = all who he will be playing within the next month and all who are chasing a play off spot. His goals past these teams would benefit us obviously. Im not trying to have a go at you, I really not. Im just struggling to understand your issue here that you cant see anything good from this. Strange.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 17, 2016 23:14:16 GMT
and not forgetting the monkey hangers beat why come yesterday without Ellis, but as Accy are rather match games short of late, and now with a man eager to impress then let him off the leash fot the aforementioned 'hangers
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