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Post by stevek192 on Aug 3, 2015 9:59:21 GMT
Lets be honest if Lansdown really wanted Bristol Rugby club back in this side of Bristol what better place than their spiritual home where he could afford to update the Mem but I can't really see him stopping his steamrolling of Ashton Gate now.
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Post by droitwichgas on Aug 3, 2015 11:15:23 GMT
If the new plan is for a similar but smaller stadium then permission would be a formality you would think. Also it doesn't work like that. Planning permission was awarded to the site and if UWE wanted to they could build it to the plans approved for Higgs's application. Or thus submit ameneded plans, unless S glos were really goign to stick to the min 20K size staduim then I would imagine the plans would be approved even quicker than our own were?
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Post by droitwichgas on Aug 3, 2015 11:20:21 GMT
Lets be honest if Lansdown really wanted Bristol Rugby club back in this side of Bristol what better place than their spiritual home where he could afford to update the Mem but I can't really see him stopping his steamrolling of Ashton Gate now. Surely he'd have a couple of problems to overcome at the Mem, firstly he can't develope unless we agree/benefit from the work, secondly, if he just buys the Mem that then gives us chance to move to the UWE. Just moving to the UWE really hit us as we'd be stuck at the run down Mem whilst being millions in debt. Although surely he hasn't got £20m more to spend North of the river just on the rugby club?
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Post by The Gas on Aug 3, 2015 11:31:57 GMT
If the chance to build a new stadium at UWE disappears, I cannot see any potential investor wanting to get involved with BRFC.
That potential is the only thing in our favour.
I can see an EGM at BRFC being demanded shortly, but it is within the rights of BRFC to refuse such a request, even if 5% of the shareholding requested one.
Things could get very bleak, but I remain optimistic something will turn up at the last minute.
Just a short quote for NH, "no taxes without representation"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 11:41:58 GMT
Lets be honest if Lansdown really wanted Bristol Rugby club back in this side of Bristol what better place than their spiritual home where he could afford to update the Mem but I can't really see him stopping his steamrolling of Ashton Gate now. The value of The Mem as a stadium is probably c£3m, it was £2.3m 9 years ago. The value as the land for housing is c£15m. If Higgs wanted to get his money back which option would he choose?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 11:45:44 GMT
Lets be honest if Lansdown really wanted Bristol Rugby club back in this side of Bristol what better place than their spiritual home where he could afford to update the Mem but I can't really see him stopping his steamrolling of Ashton Gate now. Surely he'd have a couple of problems to overcome at the Mem, firstly he can't develope unless we agree/benefit from the work, secondly, if he just buys the Mem that then gives us chance to move to the UWE. Just moving to the UWE really hit us as we'd be stuck at the run down Mem whilst being millions in debt. Although surely he hasn't got £20m more to spend North of the river just on the rugby club? He's a business man and a very clever one so I don't see any chance that Steve Lansdown would do any sort of deal with his only football business rival. He will stand back and wait for Rovers to hit the bottom of their spiral before he made any move if he ever wanted too of course. As for how much money he has, £20m is equivalent to you and I buying a new car to him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 11:47:58 GMT
If the chance to build a new stadium at UWE disappears, I cannot see any potential investor wanting to get involved with BRFC. That potential is the only thing in our favour. I can see an EGM at BRFC being demanded shortly, but it is within the rights of BRFC to refuse such a request, even if 5% of the shareholding requested one. Things could get very bleak, but I remain optimistic something will turn up at the last minute. Just a short quote for NH, "no taxes without representation" I don't see why Higgs would refuse an EGM because he would win every vote that was proposed at the EGM so he would have nothing to fear other than some awkward questions and he isn't very good with those.
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Post by pirateer on Aug 3, 2015 11:49:20 GMT
Lets be honest if Lansdown really wanted Bristol Rugby club back in this side of Bristol what better place than their spiritual home where he could afford to update the Mem but I can't really see him stopping his steamrolling of Ashton Gate now. The value of The Mem as a stadium is probably c£3m, it was £2.3m 9 years ago. The value as the land for housing is c£15m. If Higgs wanted to get his money back which option would he choose? If i was Nick Higgs i would sell the mem to the UWE for housing/student flats and use then use the money to buy into the stadium on 50/50 deal with the UWE. That's assuming that the UWE need student accomadation and that Higgs isn't just looking to clear his debts and run.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 12:05:00 GMT
The value of The Mem as a stadium is probably c£3m, it was £2.3m 9 years ago. The value as the land for housing is c£15m. If Higgs wanted to get his money back which option would he choose? If i was Nick Higgs i would sell the mem to the UWE for housing/student flats and use then use the money to buy into the stadium on 50/50 deal with the UWE. That's assuming that the UWE need student accomadation and that Higgs isn't just looking to clear his debts and run. I'm not sure that UWE would be able to be a 50% share holder in a private limited company and that is if they wanted to in the first place. I expect after witnessing recent events they would stand well clear.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Aug 3, 2015 12:07:34 GMT
Has Hicks ever said he's looking to clear his debts and run?
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 3, 2015 12:13:45 GMT
If the chance to build a new stadium at UWE disappears, I cannot see any potential investor wanting to get involved with BRFC. That potential is the only thing in our favour. I can see an EGM at BRFC being demanded shortly, but it is within the rights of BRFC to refuse such a request, even if 5% of the shareholding requested one. Things could get very bleak, but I remain optimistic something will turn up at the last minute. Just a short quote for NH, "no taxes without representation" I don't see why Higgs would refuse an EGM because he would win every vote that was proposed at the EGM so he would have nothing to fear other than some awkward questions and he isn't very good with those. As long as NH remembers to vote
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 12:16:29 GMT
It's not happening lads.
#ITK
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 12:22:37 GMT
I don't see why Higgs would refuse an EGM because he would win every vote that was proposed at the EGM so he would have nothing to fear other than some awkward questions and he isn't very good with those. As long as NH remembers to vote
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 12:23:46 GMT
It's not happening lads. #ITK Which scenario isn't happening?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 12:27:31 GMT
It's not happening lads. #ITK Which scenario isn't happening? The University building any form of stadium themselves.
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Post by droitwichgas on Aug 3, 2015 12:33:56 GMT
Surprised either the B Post haven't led with this news today or a complete denial wasn't made on the OS?
As far as the UWE buying the Mem for studnet accomadation I can't really see that happening particularly when there's no guarantee they'd get pp. Although I can't see why the UWE can't enter a partnership with a PLC, what's stopping them doing so?
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Post by RG2 Gas on Aug 3, 2015 12:35:04 GMT
Which scenario isn't happening? The University building any form of stadium themselves. Or the Rovers building it either. Not worth wasting any more precious time on it, we're all wasting our breath and could be out there doing something more productive with our lives instead! :-D
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Post by The Gas on Aug 3, 2015 13:00:18 GMT
If the chance to build a new stadium at UWE disappears, I cannot see any potential investor wanting to get involved with BRFC. That potential is the only thing in our favour. I can see an EGM at BRFC being demanded shortly, but it is within the rights of BRFC to refuse such a request, even if 5% of the shareholding requested one. Things could get very bleak, but I remain optimistic something will turn up at the last minute. Just a short quote for NH, "no taxes without representation" I don't see why Higgs would refuse an EGM because he would win every vote that was proposed at the EGM so he would have nothing to fear other than some awkward questions and he isn't very good with those. I'm not saying he would, just covering all bases.
Yes, he has enough votes to win BUT some very difficult questions can be put forward which would be very uncomfortable for BRFC>
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 13:46:57 GMT
I don't see why Higgs would refuse an EGM because he would win every vote that was proposed at the EGM so he would have nothing to fear other than some awkward questions and he isn't very good with those. I'm not saying he would, just covering all bases.
Yes, he has enough votes to win BUT some very difficult questions can be put forward which would be very uncomfortable for BRFC>
As we know from past experience, they are within their rights not to answer them as John M found out at the clubs last EGM when the then chairman thanked him for his question and then told him he wasn't going to answer it.
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Post by Thatslife on Aug 3, 2015 15:19:05 GMT
Far too many fans naively claimed that "Higgs was a Gashead" & "Higgs knows what he's doing so don't question!" My favourite was all the 'you have no right to question him unless you can afford to buy the club' crap. He is a Gas head, you have to be to have put up with the on field shenanigans. He knows what he is doing............ I hope, as the alternative doesn't bare thinking about
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