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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 29, 2015 15:29:05 GMT
All about opinions, but I reckon Kaid and Clarkeson, and O'Toole (if he could be bothered) would tear this division apart. Clarke inherited the keeper and defence was my point, and they weren't the reason we got relegated. Unless the goals are about 4 feet higher in L2 then Taylor would still miss the target more often than not. "Unless the goals are about 4 feet higher in L2" Remember our first game at The Mem Vs Stockport? Both goals scored at the South stand, both goals wouldnt have counted at any other league ground. The cross bar was about 11 inches to high, The FA did not reprimand us because we both benefited. Yes, they used my todger as the exact difference between the goalframes..
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 29, 2015 15:33:02 GMT
Quite agree with you but why when everyone could see it didn't John Ward bring someone in to try and rectify it last season, it will always remain one of those mystery's I guess we'll wonder about. EP reported that he tried, and when he reported back to the BoD at the end of the transfer window that he had failed to bring in a new striker, that's when he was effectively relieved of his duties and ''moved upstairs''. Why couldn't he bring anyone in? Was it money, was it that there was a problem with players coming to this club? Maybe Geoff will spill the beans in his book At both Q&A sessions held at the Mem either Nick or Toni (can't remember which one sorry) said John had been offered money to bring in new players and that he had assured the Board at their regular meetings that he considered we had sufficient players in to see out the season, I believe the supporters club had also offered to provide money too. There did appear to be a problem recruiting players to come here but I suppose when we had been struggling at the foot of League 2 for three seasons that's not hardly surprising really but who really knows ? As you say Geoff's book if it ever materialises could be a good read
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 29, 2015 15:43:11 GMT
Hadn't JW also declared he wanted to stand down due to personal reasons, if so, perhaps, unsurprisingly, he had other things on his mind? Regardless we only have one side of the story perhaps JW gave NH a long list of players and NH didn't want to spend the money?
Although DC's recent signings have hardly been that inspiring?
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Post by brizzle on Mar 29, 2015 15:48:36 GMT
I watched the game on an internet stream yesterday so it's my first chance to compare what I actually saw with the SteveK forum reports and I find myself agreeing with him in most respects. The standard of play shocked me, because I haven't seen Rovers live since 2010 in League 1, but I thought Leadbitter looked good and can understand why Taylor causes controversy because he is clearly industrious yet so tame in front of goal. It's probably classed as heresy to say it but I did not like the demeanor of Easter and Lines.The way Rovers played yesterday showed that the whole club is gripped with tension and anxiety. You can tell it from the way fans snap at each other on the forums, the tone of the Chairman's recent interview, the weird protest announcement from the club last week and even from the faces of the players on the pitch. God's teeth, this all sounds familiar. Is this the start of it all again, then?
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Post by swissgas on Mar 29, 2015 16:32:05 GMT
I watched the game on an internet stream yesterday so it's my first chance to compare what I actually saw with the SteveK forum reports and I find myself agreeing with him in most respects. The standard of play shocked me, because I haven't seen Rovers live since 2010 in League 1, but I thought Leadbitter looked good and can understand why Taylor causes controversy because he is clearly industrious yet so tame in front of goal. It's probably classed as heresy to say it but I did not like the demeanor of Easter and Lines.The way Rovers played yesterday showed that the whole club is gripped with tension and anxiety. You can tell it from the way fans snap at each other on the forums, the tone of the Chairman's recent interview, the weird protest announcement from the club last week and even from the faces of the players on the pitch. God's teeth, this all sounds familiar. Is this the start of it all again, then? Well I haven't commented on the team for a long long time because I haven't seen them play but I'm still interested in the strategy. And the new strategy which virtually every Rovers fan has applauded was the one of building the team around good characters like Mildenhall, Monkouse & Mansell, keeping our relatively strong defence of Brown, Parkes, & McChrystal and bringing in genuinely hungry players like Taylor, Leadbitter and of course Sinclair. At a critical stage of the season I could understand the need to add quality but it would seem logical to keep the strategy, which appeared to be working well, in place. So it was surprising that rather than maintain the principles, which most fans agreed were a refreshing change from previous seasons, we brought in Lines and Easter. My concern was that these were convenient signings which didn't involve much effort rather than the result of Darrell Clarke identifying specific targets which addressed the weaknesses in his team. I saw them on TV for 90 minutes yesterday, which I agree is not much on which to base an opinion, but to me they didn't seem to fit with the team ethos which I've heard so much about. I hope I'm wrong and they go on to have a positive influence on the team in the remaining games.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 16:37:03 GMT
When you deliberately misquote someone to make a point I think you've just conceded the debate. Really ? You'd better point that out to me so I can apologise in that case. Looks that way. Scroll back to page 1, I've stated that I honestly don't care about the opinions of people who think, You have quoted me but forgotten to include what it is that I don't care about. Unless of course you agree that some fans should f off and do something else on a Saturday?
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Post by Rex on Mar 29, 2015 16:42:49 GMT
Really ? You'd better point that out to me so I can apologise in that case. Looks that way. Scroll back to page 1, I've stated that I honestly don't care about the opinions of people who think, You have quoted me but forgotten to include what it is that I don't care about. Unless of course you agree that some fans should f off and do something else on a Saturday?
I said I wish they would, not that they should, and there is a difference. I get bored s**tless with the same people turning up every week, who really can't wait to jump on a moment of bad play to vent their spleen. I think we would be a happier and more successful club without them.
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 29, 2015 16:56:55 GMT
Really ? You'd better point that out to me so I can apologise in that case. Looks that way. Scroll back to page 1, I've stated that I honestly don't care about the opinions of people who think, That's fine BG I accept you honestly don't care about the opinions of people who think, that's your perogative but where have I deliberately misquoted your post ?
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Post by Rex on Mar 29, 2015 16:59:23 GMT
Looks that way. Scroll back to page 1, I've stated that I honestly don't care about the opinions of people who think, That's fine BG I accept you honestly don't care about the opinions of people who think, that's your perogative but where have I deliberately misquoted your post ?
I was confused about what he was saying at first, but I think he meant that he doesn't care about the opinions of people who wish some Rovers fans would f off and do something else on a Saturday (i.e he doesn't care about my opinion)
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 29, 2015 17:09:42 GMT
That's fine BG I accept you honestly don't care about the opinions of people who think, that's your perogative but where have I deliberately misquoted your post ?
I was confused about what he was saying at first, but I think he meant that he doesn't care about the opinions of people who wish some Rovers fans would f off and do something else on a Saturday (i.e he doesn't care about my opinion)
I understand that Rex but I cannot see where I have deliberately misquoted anything from his post and I'm nothing to do with any post suggesting Rovers fans would f off and do something else on a Saturday. I'm quite deliberate how I present my opinions to try not to offend those who have a different one.
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Post by LJG on Mar 29, 2015 17:21:15 GMT
Where we were - the league.
Where we are - non-league.
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Post by dido on Mar 29, 2015 17:27:45 GMT
And I thought the real Bamber Gascoigne was a supercilious bore!
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Post by bowleggedchicken on Mar 29, 2015 18:41:38 GMT
Yes, I think is a vast improvement on last season.
I didn't know the defence was the part of the team DC has the least to do with, I had rather hoped as the manager he would be involved with all of it, and I suspect he is.
Until - or if- this midfield and attack are in L2 no one actually knows. My guess is that they would be okayish, but nothing spectacular.
All about opinions, but I reckon Kaid and Clarkeson, and O'Toole (if he could be bothered) would tear this division apart. Clarke inherited the keeper and defence was my point, and they weren't the reason we got relegated. Unless the goals are about 4 feet higher in L2 then Taylor would still miss the target more often than not.
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Post by bowleggedchicken on Mar 29, 2015 18:46:13 GMT
Yes, I think is a vast improvement on last season.
I didn't know the defence was the part of the team DC has the least to do with, I had rather hoped as the manager he would be involved with all of it, and I suspect he is.
Until - or if- this midfield and attack are in L2 no one actually knows. My guess is that they would be okayish, but nothing spectacular.
All about opinions, but I reckon Kaid and Clarkeson, and O'Toole (if he could be bothered) would tear this division apart. Clarke inherited the keeper and defence was my point, and they weren't the reason we got relegated. Unless the goals are about 4 feet higher in L2 then Taylor would still miss the target more often than not.
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Post by bowleggedchicken on Mar 29, 2015 18:55:45 GMT
You are spot on BG, the decline in the quality of players, although they do run about a lot and give 100%, Means it would need a major overall of the playing staff if we want to survive in in league 2 ....If we can gain promotion.How anyone can compare Bambi Bantana to Clarkson or OToole beggers belief.
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Post by Rex on Mar 29, 2015 19:29:17 GMT
You are spot on BG, the decline in the quality of players, although they do run about a lot and give 100%, Means it would need a major overall of the playing staff if we want to survive in in league 2 ....If we can gain promotion.How anyone can compare Bambi Bantana to Clarkson or OToole beggers belief. I think a major overhaul would be unnecessary and counter productive. Yes, it would be sensible to look at what we have got IF we go up, but let's not throw out any babies with the bath water.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 20:28:59 GMT
Regarding a point made earlier in the thread: Macc are full time. Low budget and on six week contracts apparently but they're not plumbers etc
Disappointed at the performance. Even more disappointed that some of the people standing near me were so abusive towards Monkhouse and Taylor.
I still think we'll go up
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 29, 2015 20:43:59 GMT
God's teeth, this all sounds familiar. Is this the start of it all again, then? Well I haven't commented on the team for a long long time because I haven't seen them play but I'm still interested in the strategy. And the new strategy which virtually every Rovers fan has applauded was the one of building the team around good characters like Mildenhall, Monkouse & Mansell, keeping our relatively strong defence of Brown, Parkes, & McChrystal and bringing in genuinely hungry players like Taylor, Leadbitter and of course Sinclair. At a critical stage of the season I could understand the need to add quality but it would seem logical to keep the strategy, which appeared to be working well, in place. So it was surprising that rather than maintain the principles, which most fans agreed were a refreshing change from previous seasons, we brought in Lines and Easter. My concern was that these were convenient signings which didn't involve much effort rather than the result of Darrell Clarke identifying specific targets which addressed the weaknesses in his team. I saw them on TV for 90 minutes yesterday, which I agree is not much on which to base an opinion, but to me they didn't seem to fit with the team ethos which I've heard so much about. I hope I'm wrong and they go on to have a positive influence on the team in the remaining games. But who decided to sign these two players our self appointed DoF or DC, if the former did he take the easy options or, like possibly with Balanta, he signed players in desperation as DC couldn't come up with any players, it looks like NH even called in a favour again from Leicester. Whilst Lines seemed to be part of the team yesterday Easter only seemed interested in getting himself on the score sheet. As for Balanta & Dawson the less said the better!
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Post by me on Mar 29, 2015 21:08:55 GMT
Seriously you were happy to watch what was probably one of the worse live TV games ever produced by a Rovers team without complaining? If fans don't complain Rovers will keep on producing this drivel, whilst we hope we can still go up I can't honestly see this team winning at Kidderminster or Dover the way they are playing. Back, to the OP Steve's called it right this week although I would have mentioned Lines' free kick as that was our only real goalscoring opportunity. So if fans complain, Rovers will start playing well?
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Post by oviedista on Mar 29, 2015 21:25:09 GMT
Am I reading this right - people are suggesting if we go up we need to have an overhaul and get payers in like the ones that got us relegated?
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