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Post by stevek192 on Mar 28, 2015 23:46:49 GMT
OK Today was not a performance that gave a good account of the Conference League but if we look at it in the context that we have got our most difficult game out of the way and have lost no ground on Barnet at all then the only minus point is that Grimsby overtook us but let's be honest and say if they win their next 5 matches and finish above us then they have deserved it. I personally think that the same can be said of Barnet. I don't agree with those who say we didn't deserve a draw today because however poor we were Macclesfield were no better and IMO a draw was a fair result.
For those who have been very critical of the team after todays game then look back to our first three games which yielded 1 point and even had some fans mentioning the dreaded r word!! I think to find ourselves 1 point off the top spot with 5 games to go is a credit to the Manager and the players and I will go as far as to say that if any of us,Grimsby or Barnet win their 5 remaining games then they will be Champions because I don't honestly think that more than 1 of the teams will win the 5 games.
In truth I do have worries myself about the team today in that I am still not convinced that DC knows what his best team is and he does not seem prepared to give certain players the benefit of a run of games and therefore we cannot expect these players to be giving consistent performances. A steady flow of long high balls to 2 short attackers is hardly going to retain possession and to me its obvious that if we are going to play that way then we need Blissett on from the start. Taylor and Easter do not seem like a partnership that is going to work given the type of balls that are played and then there is the question of our midfield and I have seen Balanta playing about 5 times and each time he comes on in a different position- is he a right winger,left winger,striker or an "in the hole" player? He does not appear to possess the pace to be a winger. I am not sure that the "in and out of the team" is working with Dawson either.Wingers are rarely consistent and therefore need a run of games. Tactically again we appeared to be constantly directing the ball down the left from every goalkick which becomes a bit predictable by about the tenth minute! Anyway we may as well forget all this because the results up until now cannot really been complained about but perhaps this is DC's weakness in that the points total has been obtained playing a certain way and the Manager is therefore understandably probably frightened to take a chance by changing those tactics to go at the opposition from the start.
I will try to be kind in my assessments because at the end of the day a point away to the fourth team in the League is not a bad result and was obtained in difficult weather conditions.
Puddy 7 Handled the ball well and made two outstanding saves.I am not even going to criticise his kicking because he is obviously told to aim every kick down the left which with a difficult wind does not leave much room for error and as for those who started chanting "Mildenhall" when two kicks went into touch I suggest they think before they show themselves up as distribution is not exactly Mildenhalls strong point and do they honestly think they did Puddy any good?
Leadbitter 6.5 One awful cross apart I thought he had a decent game.
McCrystal 6 Strong in the air but again his distribution wasn't the best.
Parkes 6.5 Did well in the conditions. Strong in the air and on the ground and very little went past him
Brown 6.5 Strong performance. tried his best to attack and hope that he is not going to be totally relived of free kick duty.
Balanta 5 Defensively I thought he gave a decent performance especially seeing how poor at defending Dawson was when he came on however I am not sure what his best position is as i think he needs to be in the game more and play clever through balls but most of our play goes down the left. He does not seem to have the pace to play down the wing.
Lockyer 5 Most of the mark is for his defensive play as his passing overall today was very poor and therefore one of the reasons why very little creativity came from our midfield
Lines 5.5 Not one of his better games but still looked the best option in the midfield but struggled with the pace on his passing with the wind.
Monkhouse 5 Lost in the game too much. Has the ability but seems to be too keen to play a simple backward pass or just play in Brown. Wasted in my opinion.
Easter 5 Tried hard but with a very poor service and lacking a targetman to play him in was not really involved much.
Taylor 5 Wasteful on two occasions and did not really form a partnership with Easter. some good things but overall a mixed performance.
Subs Dawson, Blissett Not long enough to mark but I thought Blissett did well and Dawson was very poor. Messing Dawson about does not seem to be paying dividends.
Referee 5 Typical Conference referee. Very few are above local Amateur standard
DC 5 Something is missing in the way we are playing recently and tactically we are looking devoid of ideas and more players seem now to be below par.
Macclesfield 6 Strong team. Not sure if they were better than at the Mem or we were a lot worse!! I think they did a good job on us.
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Post by davehuddscousin on Mar 29, 2015 1:13:54 GMT
I think Taylor should have come off after that elbow attack. He looked groggy for about 5 minutes afterwards. I find him frustrating, his work rate is good, but too often he shoots straight at the opposition goalkeeper. I rated Lines at a 6, he put in a decent shift, and his free kicks were not that far away from creating something.
Luckily Barnet found Alfreton as difficult to beat up there as we did, but Grimsby are looking like title favourites.
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Post by Rex on Mar 29, 2015 8:50:53 GMT
OK Today was not a performance that gave a good account of the Conference League but if we look at it in the context that we have got our most difficult game out of the way and have lost no ground on Barnet at all then the only minus point is that Grimsby overtook us but let's be honest and say if they win their next 5 matches and finish above us then they have deserved it. I personally think that the same can be said of Barnet. I don't agree with those who say we didn't deserve a draw today because however poor we were Macclesfield were no better and IMO a draw was a fair result. For those who have been very critical of the team after todays game then look back to our first three games which yielded 1 point and even had some fans mentioning the dreaded r word!! I think to find ourselves 1 point off the top spot with 5 games to go is a credit to the Manager and the players and I will go as far as to say that if any of us,Grimsby or Barnet win their 5 remaining games then they will be Champions because I don't honestly think that more than 1 of the teams will win the 5 games. In truth I do have worries myself about the team today in that I am still not convinced that DC knows what his best team is and he does not seem prepared to give certain players the benefit of a run of games and therefore we cannot expect these players to be giving consistent performances. A steady flow of long high balls to 2 short attackers is hardly going to retain possession and to me its obvious that if we are going to play that way then we need Blissett on from the start. Taylor and Easter do not seem like a partnership that is going to work given the type of balls that are played and then there is the question of our midfield and I have seen Balanta playing about 5 times and each time he comes on in a different position- is he a right winger,left winger,striker or an "in the hole" player? He does not appear to possess the pace to be a winger. I am not sure that the "in and out of the team" is working with Dawson either.Wingers are rarely consistent and therefore need a run of games. Tactically again we appeared to be constantly directing the ball down the left from every goalkick which becomes a bit predictable by about the tenth minute! Anyway we may as well forget all this because the results up until now cannot really been complained about but perhaps this is DC's weakness in that the points total has been obtained playing a certain way and the Manager is therefore understandably probably frightened to take a chance by changing those tactics to go at the opposition from the start. I will try to be kind in my assessments because at the end of the day a point away to the fourth team in the League is not a bad result and was obtained in difficult weather conditions. Puddy 7 Handled the ball well and made two outstanding saves.I am not even going to criticise his kicking because he is obviously told to aim every kick down the left which with a difficult wind does not leave much room for error and as for those who started chanting "Mildenhall" when two kicks went into touch I suggest they think before they show themselves up as distribution is not exactly Mildenhalls strong point and do they honestly think they did Puddy any good?
Leadbitter 6.5 One awful cross apart I thought he had a decent game. McCrystal 6 Strong in the air but again his distribution wasn't the best. Parkes 6.5 Did well in the conditions. Strong in the air and on the ground and very little went past him Brown 6.5 Strong performance. tried his best to attack and hope that he is not going to be totally relived of free kick duty. Balanta 5 Defensively I thought he gave a decent performance especially seeing how poor at defending Dawson was when he came on however I am not sure what his best position is as i think he needs to be in the game more and play clever through balls but most of our play goes down the left. He does not seem to have the pace to play down the wing. Lockyer 5 Most of the mark is for his defensive play as his passing overall today was very poor and therefore one of the reasons why very little creativity came from our midfield Lines 5.5 Not one of his better games but still looked the best option in the midfield but struggled with the pace on his passing with the wind. Monkhouse 5 Lost in the game too much. Has the ability but seems to be too keen to play a simple backward pass or just play in Brown. Wasted in my opinion. Easter 5 Tried hard but with a very poor service and lacking a targetman to play him in was not really involved much. Taylor 5 Wasteful on two occasions and did not really form a partnership with Easter. some good things but overall a mixed performance. Subs Dawson, Blissett Not long enough to mark but I thought Blissett did well and Dawson was very poor. Messing Dawson about does not seem to be paying dividends. Referee 5 Typical Conference referee. Very few are above local Amateur standard DC 5 Something is missing in the way we are playing recently and tactically we are looking devoid of ideas and more players seem now to be below par. Macclesfield 6 Strong team. Not sure if they were better than at the Mem or we were a lot worse!! I think they did a good job on us. Really? I honestly do wish some fans would f**k off and do something else on a Saturday. I couldn't give a flying f**k if they have 'paid their money and entitled to their opinion' or have 'travelled all that way, so can say what they want'. I know every team has them, but they are a cancer to whoever they follow- just saying  |
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Post by crater on Mar 29, 2015 9:15:26 GMT
Isn't the notion of a "best team" a non argument?
The manager will know pretty much 8 or 9 regular starters and change 2 or 3 around based on the opponent, the system he wants to play and form.
I'm actually more optimistic about automatic promotion today then I was before a ball was kicked yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 9:16:20 GMT
OK Today was not a performance that gave a good account of the Conference League but if we look at it in the context that we have got our most difficult game out of the way and have lost no ground on Barnet at all then the only minus point is that Grimsby overtook us but let's be honest and say if they win their next 5 matches and finish above us then they have deserved it. I personally think that the same can be said of Barnet. I don't agree with those who say we didn't deserve a draw today because however poor we were Macclesfield were no better and IMO a draw was a fair result. For those who have been very critical of the team after todays game then look back to our first three games which yielded 1 point and even had some fans mentioning the dreaded r word!! I think to find ourselves 1 point off the top spot with 5 games to go is a credit to the Manager and the players and I will go as far as to say that if any of us,Grimsby or Barnet win their 5 remaining games then they will be Champions because I don't honestly think that more than 1 of the teams will win the 5 games. In truth I do have worries myself about the team today in that I am still not convinced that DC knows what his best team is and he does not seem prepared to give certain players the benefit of a run of games and therefore we cannot expect these players to be giving consistent performances. A steady flow of long high balls to 2 short attackers is hardly going to retain possession and to me its obvious that if we are going to play that way then we need Blissett on from the start. Taylor and Easter do not seem like a partnership that is going to work given the type of balls that are played and then there is the question of our midfield and I have seen Balanta playing about 5 times and each time he comes on in a different position- is he a right winger,left winger,striker or an "in the hole" player? He does not appear to possess the pace to be a winger. I am not sure that the "in and out of the team" is working with Dawson either.Wingers are rarely consistent and therefore need a run of games. Tactically again we appeared to be constantly directing the ball down the left from every goalkick which becomes a bit predictable by about the tenth minute! Anyway we may as well forget all this because the results up until now cannot really been complained about but perhaps this is DC's weakness in that the points total has been obtained playing a certain way and the Manager is therefore understandably probably frightened to take a chance by changing those tactics to go at the opposition from the start. I will try to be kind in my assessments because at the end of the day a point away to the fourth team in the League is not a bad result and was obtained in difficult weather conditions. Puddy 7 Handled the ball well and made two outstanding saves.I am not even going to criticise his kicking because he is obviously told to aim every kick down the left which with a difficult wind does not leave much room for error and as for those who started chanting "Mildenhall" when two kicks went into touch I suggest they think before they show themselves up as distribution is not exactly Mildenhalls strong point and do they honestly think they did Puddy any good?
Leadbitter 6.5 One awful cross apart I thought he had a decent game. McCrystal 6 Strong in the air but again his distribution wasn't the best. Parkes 6.5 Did well in the conditions. Strong in the air and on the ground and very little went past him Brown 6.5 Strong performance. tried his best to attack and hope that he is not going to be totally relived of free kick duty. Balanta 5 Defensively I thought he gave a decent performance especially seeing how poor at defending Dawson was when he came on however I am not sure what his best position is as i think he needs to be in the game more and play clever through balls but most of our play goes down the left. He does not seem to have the pace to play down the wing. Lockyer 5 Most of the mark is for his defensive play as his passing overall today was very poor and therefore one of the reasons why very little creativity came from our midfield Lines 5.5 Not one of his better games but still looked the best option in the midfield but struggled with the pace on his passing with the wind. Monkhouse 5 Lost in the game too much. Has the ability but seems to be too keen to play a simple backward pass or just play in Brown. Wasted in my opinion. Easter 5 Tried hard but with a very poor service and lacking a targetman to play him in was not really involved much. Taylor 5 Wasteful on two occasions and did not really form a partnership with Easter. some good things but overall a mixed performance. Subs Dawson, Blissett Not long enough to mark but I thought Blissett did well and Dawson was very poor. Messing Dawson about does not seem to be paying dividends. Referee 5 Typical Conference referee. Very few are above local Amateur standard DC 5 Something is missing in the way we are playing recently and tactically we are looking devoid of ideas and more players seem now to be below par. Macclesfield 6 Strong team. Not sure if they were better than at the Mem or we were a lot worse!! I think they did a good job on us. Really? I honestly do wish some fans would f off and do something else on a Saturday. I couldn't give a flying f if they have 'paid their money and entitled to their opinion' or have 'travelled all that way, so can say what they want'. I know every team has them, but they are a cancer to whoever they follow- just saying I agree that they should shut the f... up,but I dont know that we can afford to lose any supporters,Rovers average support seems quite old and I cant see new supporters replacing the older ones if things dont improve on the pitch... I didnt go yesterday and I looked forward to Steves report,I was one of the people at Barnet away thinking that the worst could happen,I didnt expect Rovers to be top 3 now thats for sure. I dont like the way the ball gets hoofed out of defence,if you boot the ball over the midfield how can . the midfielders make chances for the forwards ? . I am a bit worried about what will happen if Rovers dont get promoted,the crowds have been good this season,but the novelty wont be there next season,also attracting players will become harder, maybe we need to look at how clubs like Luton or Grimsby have adjusted to the Conference and try to do it quicker than they did. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 29, 2015 9:18:42 GMT
Seriously you were happy to watch what was probably one of the worse live TV games ever produced by a Rovers team without complaining?
If fans don't complain Rovers will keep on producing this drivel, whilst we hope we can still go up I can't honestly see this team winning at Kidderminster or Dover the way they are playing.
Back, to the OP Steve's called it right this week although I would have mentioned Lines' free kick as that was our only real goalscoring opportunity.
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Post by ismellgas on Mar 29, 2015 9:24:17 GMT
People singing Mildenhall just cause he kicked a few balls out?? What a joke,puddy had a great game and every save stuck to him
Moldy would have spilled a couple of those shots or tried punching them and that puts the defence straight back under pressure,puddy has safe hands and he stopped the ball from going in the net that is what he is there for? Who gives a f**k if he kicked it out a few times,if moldy was in goal we would of lost FACT
WELL DONE WILL GREAT GAME GAS NUMBER 1
Takes me back to the do you think monkey is underrated thread hahahhaha he shouldn't start the game would rather have gosling on going at defenders rather than him foot on ball and passing backwards again. Borrrrring
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Post by Igitur on Mar 29, 2015 9:25:31 GMT
Any of the clowns chanting "Mildenhall" wish to come on and defend themselves?
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Post by ismellgas on Mar 29, 2015 9:42:17 GMT
Absolute joke he has cost us points this season,dartford and Eastleigh are a easy few to remember he is finished
We would be top now if puddy started from start of the season,he may not be the tallest in the world but he catches the ball
Some of the dicks on here that chanted for moldy obviously want a has been in goal,like one poster said who gives a f**k if you went to all the away games this season doesn't mean to say you pick the team
Dc done a great job and to some if the fans he's in a no win situation,play safe and get a result or go for it and risk losing,at this stage of the season with the teams we got to face I would go for the latter he's done his job and got us in the mix
Nice one dc
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Post by Igitur on Mar 29, 2015 10:17:21 GMT
Mildenhall is still a good goalkeeper to have in your squad, despite his odd mistake. It's the old thing make an error in midfield, often little happens, make an error as a keeper and often it's a goal. (Though his error against Eastleigh seemed to destroy the team from then on.)
Mildy was the best keeper in the league last season, and would easily get another club even league 2.
Televised games put players 'in the shop window' and Puddy will have been noted by other clubs as a steady competent keeper, I do not know when his contract is up but chants for the other keeper will not help his decision making.
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Post by Rex on Mar 29, 2015 11:37:59 GMT
Seriously you were happy to watch what was probably one of the worse live TV games ever produced by a Rovers team without complaining? If fans don't complain Rovers will keep on producing this drivel, whilst we hope we can still go up I can't honestly see this team winning at Kidderminster or Dover the way they are playing. Back, to the OP Steve's called it right this week although I would have mentioned Lines' free kick as that was our only real goalscoring opportunity. I thought it was a s**te game, but seriously, would you be happy if you were playing for a team near the top of the table, having a good game (and Puddy did have a good game) and your own fans were giving you stick? |
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Post by ismellgas on Mar 29, 2015 12:23:26 GMT
Puddy has kept us in the title race,If we win our next 5 and Barnet Grimsby don't we are up but if we lost yesterday Barnet could afford to draw one
It's as you were and I'm happy to be the ones waiting for mistakes to take the title,5 in a row we can do this:) were going to have massive support for the last 5 games and that Barnet draw keeps it all alive again let's not f**k this up gas
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Post by buckrippers on Mar 29, 2015 12:28:43 GMT
Seriously you were happy to watch what was probably one of the worse live TV games ever produced by a Rovers team without complaining? If fans don't complain Rovers will keep on producing this drivel, whilst we hope we can still go up I can't honestly see this team winning at Kidderminster or Dover the way they are playing. Back, to the OP Steve's called it right this week although I would have mentioned Lines' free kick as that was our only real goalscoring opportunity. You're a funny fish, Topper. If I had written that you would have destroyed me for "being negative" and then claimed I didn't have a right to comment because I wasn't there. I saw it on TV as did you by the sounds of things... same sort of performance as we gave at Dartford on a poor pitch. I saw them both. I have a tendency to feel we should be far more direct.I wouldn't want to see us play that way all the time, but trying to pass on a mudheap is asking for trouble. We could also do with a midfielder with a bit of "dog": Remember Ronnie Mauge? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 13:15:02 GMT
What a dreadful thread.
The happy clappers are in full voice, in fact, getting quite hostile now, shouting down anyone who dares complain, just because we have failed to beat a part time team of electricians and plumbers, again.
If we don't get promoted it won't be because of the goalkeeper, our 'goals against' column looks just fine.
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Post by Rex on Mar 29, 2015 13:37:29 GMT
What a dreadful thread. The happy clappers are in full voice, in fact, getting quite hostile now, shouting down anyone who dares complain, just because we have failed to beat a part time team of electricians and plumbers, again. If we don't get promoted it won't be because of the goalkeeper, our 'goals against' column looks just fine. The frustrating thing for me is that apparently you either have to be a 'happy clapper' or a 'moaner'. I just like to call a game as I see it, sometimes we win games, sometimes we don't, and during the course of 90 minutes there will be times when the opposition is on top. I still cannot see for the life of me, why anyone would think slagging off a keeper- who had a good game- was in anyway remotely helpful. |
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 29, 2015 13:47:05 GMT
Seriously you were happy to watch what was probably one of the worse live TV games ever produced by a Rovers team without complaining? If fans don't complain Rovers will keep on producing this drivel, whilst we hope we can still go up I can't honestly see this team winning at Kidderminster or Dover the way they are playing. Back, to the OP Steve's called it right this week although I would have mentioned Lines' free kick as that was our only real goalscoring opportunity. You're a funny fish, Topper. If I had written that you would have destroyed me for "being negative" and then claimed I didn't have a right to comment because I wasn't there. I saw it on TV as did you by the sounds of things... same sort of performance as we gave at Dartford on a poor pitch. I saw them both. I have a tendency to feel we should be far more direct.I wouldn't want to see us play that way all the time, but trying to pass on a mudheap is asking for trouble. We could also do with a midfielder with a bit of "dog": Remember Ronnie Mauge? We'll presumably have Mansell back next game (why isn't he captain?) driving on in midfield to provide that bit of 'dog', we'll also have Ellis back on the bench to bring on, how we missed having him as an option against Macclesfield. Come on Rovers, COYB's ! |
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Post by irishrover on Mar 29, 2015 13:51:35 GMT
What a dreadful thread.The happy clappers are in full voice, in fact, getting quite hostile now, shouting down anyone who dares complain, just because we have failed to beat a part time team of electricians and plumbers, again. If we don't get promoted it won't be because of the goalkeeper, our 'goals against' column looks just fine. Someone's taken the time and effort to write a detailed match report so I think that's a bit out of order really. |
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Post by swissgas on Mar 29, 2015 14:02:00 GMT
I watched the game on an internet stream yesterday so it's my first chance to compare what I actually saw with the SteveK forum reports and I find myself agreeing with him in most respects. The standard of play shocked me, because I haven't seen Rovers live since 2010 in League 1, but I thought Leadbitter looked good and can understand why Taylor causes controversy because he is clearly industrious yet so tame in front of goal. It's probably classed as heresy to say it but I did not like the demeanor of Easter and Lines.
The way Rovers played yesterday showed that the whole club is gripped with tension and anxiety. You can tell it from the way fans snap at each other on the forums, the tone of the Chairman's recent interview, the weird protest announcement from the club last week and even from the faces of the players on the pitch.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 29, 2015 14:04:59 GMT
What a dreadful thread. The happy clappers are in full voice, in fact, getting quite hostile now, shouting down anyone who dares complain, just because we have failed to beat a part time team of electricians and plumbers, again. ...and plasterers! Don't discriminate against everyone whom gets plastered.. |
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 29, 2015 14:05:54 GMT
What a dreadful thread. The happy clappers are in full voice, in fact, getting quite hostile now, shouting down anyone who dares complain, just because we have failed to beat a part time team of electricians and plumbers, again. If we don't get promoted it won't be because of the goalkeeper, our 'goals against' column looks just fine. Try not being so patronising to your fellow Gasheads, they may well have more respect for your views. No one I go to games with think we are the finished article and consider there is a lot of room for improvement. But we aren't 'happy clappers' either, ** we want better management, we want better players, we want a better team, we want to be in a better league, we want the club to be run better** but we aren't going to carry on negatively carping on and moaning about, it's counter productive. The players and the management are the one's we currently have, it's my job as a supporter to support them however limited their attributes might be or are you suggesting we should turn up at every game and boo them from start to finish. It's not perfect but compared with last season this is far far better. p.s. ** that's the hidden agenda some keep accusing this forum of having |
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