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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 16:58:43 GMT
Make him VP so he can quit and we can get promoted. Dunford quits and we always get promoted.
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Post by harrybuckle on Oct 4, 2015 18:31:42 GMT
Make him VP so he can quit and we can get promoted. Dunford quits and we always get promoted. Di you know we had Dr W G Grace as our Vice President in 1889 and look what happened to him
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 19:05:03 GMT
are you serious ? hes a no class numpty , mem Why shouldn't he be offered it? He deserves it for his decades of hard work, getting the Mem for one thing. he did untold hard work but undid it all with his behaviour these last ten years never forget hed let the club go before his pension speech
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 9:43:43 GMT
The one thing I find irony in is that KS & GD now have some exchanges via Twitter. I can't help but laugh at that, given that GD was the Devil incarnate prior to him "leaving" i think Geoff would certainly appear to be more than a bit peeved at how it all happened. In all honesty, I am not interested in it now as I got far too involved in the silliness. What does raise my hackles a bit is the lack on integrity. I'll say no more as I really don't want to go over it again. I just wish everyone could get back to attending games and bans were lifted but then, I think even that wouldn't end well. KP - it will end as and when NH stands down or we have new owners. Ding dong?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 20, 2016 12:38:46 GMT
Mr Dunford should be President of the Club - not Vice President are you serious ? hes a no class numpty , Serious question, now we have the information available that NH and the club have owed Mrs Dunford monies that are from the estate of Denis, do you still feel the same way ? I habe to say, with Geoff knowing this then he has been very restrained as I see it. It's one thing owing money but to owe it to an estate of someone who has died is pretty low. Just my opinion
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 1:59:52 GMT
are you serious ? hes a no class numpty , Serious question, now we have the information available that NH and the club have owed Mrs Dunford monies that are from the estate of Denis, do you still feel the same way ? I habe to say, with Geoff knowing this then he has been very restrained as I see it. It's one thing owing money but to owe it to an estate of someone who has died is pretty low. Just my opinion first ive heard of it, higgs and gd are as bad as each other in my books, as for money thats what moneymen do, remember geoff wouldve let the cub go under before his pension comment
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 21, 2016 16:54:26 GMT
Serious question, now we have the information available that NH and the club have owed Mrs Dunford monies that are from the estate of Denis, do you still feel the same way ? I habe to say, with Geoff knowing this then he has been very restrained as I see it. It's one thing owing money but to owe it to an estate of someone who has died is pretty low. Just my opinion first ive heard of it, higgs and gd are as bad as each other in my books, as for money thats what moneymen do, remember geoff wouldve let the cub go under before his pension comment As I am opening up I can say that it was after the game with Altrincham that Geoff made his demand to have his money back. I agree they are as bad as each other fella and I feel both have used to club to their own ends and they both have networked with people that they never would have, had they not have been in the positions they were. They both basically had Robers as their own mans club/ Masonic lodge etc etc. Whatever happens next, I feel we will be better placed than we ever could have imagined when under the guardianship of either man. Geoff just doesn't seem to be able to live without either having a dig at certain people at the club and his ramblings about his book have taken on epic proportions. He blocked me on Twitter but he does that regularly and when people ask genuine questions, without anger or hostility. There are a fair few coming forward now and ready to say what they know now. I imagine both will be a little worried about the truth becoming public knowledge, for those that care. I had a chat with a club man who said " see, all Nick wanted was to put the club into good hands" lol. I replied, in detail. Anyway, it's in the past now & I sincerely hope that our new owners give the manager and team their full attention. For me, I would honestly be happy to see the team do better as I have never been overly bothered by a new stadium.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 18:23:09 GMT
the new stadium [or improved mem] is vital if we need to grow
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Post by nrthcmngas on Feb 22, 2016 2:38:23 GMT
These people are always going to be egotistical, why do you need a position other than to make yourself feel importan? you all know managers at work that are the same, but what is the alternative, anarchy? I think a measured and fair is the only option, most people don't really know what is best for them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 11:53:46 GMT
These people are always going to be egotistical, why do you need a position other than to make yourself feel importan? you all know managers at work that are the same, but what is the alternative, anarchy? I think a measured and fair is the only option, most people don't really know what is best for them. a fair and honest chairman is whats needed. i certainly dont need a telling me whats best for me
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 23, 2016 16:50:36 GMT
These people are always going to be egotistical, why do you need a position other than to make yourself feel importan? you all know managers at work that are the same, but what is the alternative, anarchy? I think a measured and fair is the only option, most people don't really know what is best for them. a fair and honest chairman is whats needed. i certainly dont need a telling me whats best for me Totally agree fella. The part " most people don't know what's best for them" would certainly no go down well with me. I don't think it's for others to make that decision and much is learned from life experience and in making mistakes but that's a totally different conversation
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 24, 2016 9:30:53 GMT
Has Geoff been paid up and his shares now with the owners ? I can't see anything written about him or deltavon etc.
I would ask him but he blocked me on Twitter because of #SmirkGate.
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Feb 24, 2016 11:20:18 GMT
look many here will know I've had my disagrements with GD as have ex directors, but they can remain civil on this issue and reflective of the good DD and GD did for the club, as well as the less good times and look at it in a balanced way.
I'm amazed some people thinking prior to the recent investment Higgs was right to turn away any money from social events and the like, but I guess that's the degree of apathy he'd managed to get fans to which will now go away.
Fact is every former director who had a decent period of service in terms of length of service is a Life Vice President, not to include GD in this is a disgrace and I have to say more of an insult to Denis than anything else. It's a part of the vindictive nature of the previous regime which needs to be wiped from our history.
If nothing else persuades you of this it should be that people banned from golf days and valentines balls under GDs Board all say he should get the same recognition as other previous long serving directors, and yes as others have said even KS, who has more to be pissed of with previous regimes than anyone else I know, has siad this should happen
I for one hope the new owners will end all bans, petty vindictive ommissions and exclusions and all Rovers fans, expect criminals, can attend games, golf days, valentines balls and weddings/wakes held at the stadium (yes some cant even come to wedding receptions or wakes for f**ks sake)
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 24, 2016 11:24:20 GMT
and all Rovers fans, expect criminals well, that's probably realistic but not very politically correct!
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 24, 2016 11:27:18 GMT
If nothing else persuades you of this it should be that people banned from golf days and valentines balls under GDs Board ...............I for one hope the new owners will end all bans, petty vindictive ommissions and exclusions and all Rovers fans, expect criminals, can attend games, golf days, valentines balls and weddings/wakes held at the stadium (yes some cant even come to wedding receptions or wakes for fs sake) I must admit that I'd forgotten about the extent of the reported petulance and control freakery
there's quite a history of it when you look back
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 24, 2016 11:48:06 GMT
look many here will know I've had my disagrements with GD as have ex directors, but they can remain civil on this issue and reflective of the good DD and GD did for the club, as well as the less good times and look at it in a balanced way. I'm amazed some people thinking prior to the recent investment Higgs was right to turn away any money from social events and the like, but I guess that's the degree of apathy he'd managed to get fans to which will now go away. Fact is every former director who had a decent period of service in terms of length of service is a Life Vice President, not to include GD in this is a disgrace and I have to say more of an insult to Denis than anything else. It's a part of the vindictive nature of the previous regime which needs to be wiped from our history. If nothing else persuades you of this it should be that people banned from golf days and valentines balls under GDs Board all say he should get the same recognition as other previous long serving directors, and yes as others have said even KS, who has more to be pissed of with previous regimes than anyone else I know, has siad this should happen I for one hope the new owners will end all bans, petty vindictive ommissions and exclusions and all Rovers fans, expect criminals, can attend games, golf days, valentines balls and weddings/wakes held at the stadium (yes some cant even come to wedding receptions or wakes for fs sake) How do you or we define criminals ? I agree that this is a golden opportunity to put to bed all of the nonsensical stuff that went on. I do wonder though, has there been just too much damage done ? Anyway, I am sure that those people, who had an axe to grind, can speak for themselves and I hope for a good outcome.
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Post by irishrover on Feb 24, 2016 11:58:51 GMT
look many here will know I've had my disagrements with GD as have ex directors, but they can remain civil on this issue and reflective of the good DD and GD did for the club, as well as the less good times and look at it in a balanced way. I'm amazed some people thinking prior to the recent investment Higgs was right to turn away any money from social events and the like, but I guess that's the degree of apathy he'd managed to get fans to which will now go away. Fact is every former director who had a decent period of service in terms of length of service is a Life Vice President, not to include GD in this is a disgrace and I have to say more of an insult to Denis than anything else. It's a part of the vindictive nature of the previous regime which needs to be wiped from our history. If nothing else persuades you of this it should be that people banned from golf days and valentines balls under GDs Board all say he should get the same recognition as other previous long serving directors, and yes as others have said even KS, who has more to be pissed of with previous regimes than anyone else I know, has siad this should happen I for one hope the new owners will end all bans, petty vindictive ommissions and exclusions and all Rovers fans, expect criminals, can attend games, golf days, valentines balls and weddings/wakes held at the stadium (yes some cant even come to wedding receptions or wakes for fs sake) How do you or we define criminals ? I agree that this is a golden opportunity to put to bed all of the nonsensical stuff that went on. I do wonder though, has there been just too much damage done ? Anyway, I am sure that those people, who had an axe to grind, can speak for themselves and I hope for a good outcome. Well I think criminals are generally defined as 'people who have committed a crime'! But I assume what Mancgas is on about is people who have banning orders and who have damaged the premises etc which seems fair enough. I don't think he's saying that ex-cons should be banned from going to football matches - that would seem a tad harsh....
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 24, 2016 12:12:49 GMT
How do you or we define criminals ? I agree that this is a golden opportunity to put to bed all of the nonsensical stuff that went on. I do wonder though, has there been just too much damage done ? Anyway, I am sure that those people, who had an axe to grind, can speak for themselves and I hope for a good outcome. Well I think criminals are generally defined as 'people who have committed a crime'! But I assume what Mancgas is on about is people who have banning orders and who have damaged the premises etc which seems fair enough. I don't think he's saying that ex-cons should be banned from going to football matches - that would seem a tad harsh.... Ok, thanks for the clarification as it sidetracked me. I guess that it all now depends to what extent a life VP can manipulate within the club structure. I would really like to think that a line could be drawn under all the went on beforehand BUT I never underestimate the level some will stoop to, to carry on a grudge. Christ on a bike, I've learned a lot just by posting and reading on here & I like to think I can now post without going into the hate filled diatribe that I once did. I have apologised to those who I feel I have unnecessarily offended, some accept it and we move on but some just don't have the capacity to forgive and forget. I hope, for the clubs sake, that ALL Rovers fans can come to a game and not have to have any worries of being told to leave. We have had a long enough period of sniping and counters and it would be great if we all really could just get along. Life really is too short
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Feb 24, 2016 12:41:25 GMT
look many here will know I've had my disagrements with GD as have ex directors, but they can remain civil on this issue and reflective of the good DD and GD did for the club, as well as the less good times and look at it in a balanced way. I'm amazed some people thinking prior to the recent investment Higgs was right to turn away any money from social events and the like, but I guess that's the degree of apathy he'd managed to get fans to which will now go away. Fact is every former director who had a decent period of service in terms of length of service is a Life Vice President, not to include GD in this is a disgrace and I have to say more of an insult to Denis than anything else. It's a part of the vindictive nature of the previous regime which needs to be wiped from our history. If nothing else persuades you of this it should be that people banned from golf days and valentines balls under GDs Board all say he should get the same recognition as other previous long serving directors, and yes as others have said even KS, who has more to be pissed of with previous regimes than anyone else I know, has siad this should happen I for one hope the new owners will end all bans, petty vindictive ommissions and exclusions and all Rovers fans, expect criminals, can attend games, golf days, valentines balls and weddings/wakes held at the stadium (yes some cant even come to wedding receptions or wakes for fs sake) How do you or we define criminals ? I agree that this is a golden opportunity to put to bed all of the nonsensical stuff that went on. I do wonder though, has there been just too much damage done ? Anyway, I am sure that those people, who had an axe to grind, can speak for themselves and I hope for a good outcome. Hi should have been clearer, those who have committed a crime which in turn renders them in breach of the Ground Regulations, ie orders preventing access to football stadia and the like.
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Feb 24, 2016 12:52:15 GMT
Well I think criminals are generally defined as 'people who have committed a crime'! But I assume what Mancgas is on about is people who have banning orders and who have damaged the premises etc which seems fair enough. I don't think he's saying that ex-cons should be banned from going to football matches - that would seem a tad harsh.... Ok, thanks for the clarification as it sidetracked me. I guess that it all now depends to what extent a life VP can manipulate within the club structure. I would really like to think that a line could be drawn under all the went on beforehand BUT I never underestimate the level some will stoop to, to carry on a grudge. Christ on a bike, I've learned a lot just by posting and reading on here & I like to think I can now post without going into the hate filled diatribe that I once did. I have apologised to those who I feel I have unnecessarily offended, some accept it and we move on but some just don't have the capacity to forgive and forget. I hope, for the clubs sake, that ALL Rovers fans can come to a game and not have to have any worries of being told to leave. We have had a long enough period of sniping and counters and it would be great if we all really could just get along. Life really is too short Life VP is a completely 'titular' appointment (some may say the first three letters are quite apt, I couldnt possibly comment) ie a name which carries no authority or power, simply a recognition of past service good or bad People will always have differing opinions on the good and bad bit. Whatever any one thinks rightly or wrongly about what these people did, they did put financial support in when others didnt and if folk didnt do this we'd have been bankrupt decades ago. Historically retiring (as opposed to resigning) directors have attained this title, GD is the only one I know of who hasnt and it would just be another wound healed. I'm in the process of trying to get some other wounds healed and hopefully your aim of all getting along and anyone being able to attend what they want to if legally able wll be achieved shortly and the history consigned to past where it should be.
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