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Post by alloutofgas on Nov 26, 2014 16:34:40 GMT
Just watched the ScreenSoccer highlights from last night. Blatant handball. Justice was done at the end. Glad Martin Allen hasn't moaned about our late winner, he knows it could have been a lot worse.
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Post by willgashead on Nov 26, 2014 16:55:34 GMT
Link?
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Post by Wickwar Gas on Nov 26, 2014 17:02:00 GMT
How people can say it was not handball I do not know, I saw it live and have seen two links and it is still handball!
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Post by Rex on Nov 26, 2014 17:17:04 GMT
I saw it live and had a great view and thought it was not a penalty, the only links I have seen are very sketchy, so I am still going with my original view the ref got it right. One thing I don't understand though is why several people have accused the ref of 'bottling it'. Refs give penalties on a reasonably regular basis and there is no reason whatsoever that a ref would change his mind unless he thought his original decision was wrong, and good for him to be brave enough to change a decision when he thinks he has made a mistake.
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Post by Gas Since 1957 on Nov 26, 2014 17:56:44 GMT
Just watched the highlights on the OS and it's looking like a clear handball to me. Never mind, we won anyway!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 18:04:25 GMT
Having seen the 'proper' highlights I don't think it was handball.
What he was doing with his arm is anyones guess though and if it had been given he'd only have himself to blame.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Nov 26, 2014 18:24:32 GMT
Couldn't tell at the time if it was a hand or not, but it looks like a handball to me on the videos and screengrabs, the reaction of the player is also very telling to me definitely not the reaction of a player that just made a legal physics defying clearance off the line IMO.
But couldn't give a monkeys anyway, thanks to Balanta.
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Post by brizzle on Nov 26, 2014 18:28:35 GMT
Just watched the highlights on the OS and it's looking like a clear handball to me. Never mind, we won anyway!And that is precisely the point, we won anyway thank goodness. Mind you if would have been a different case if we'd drawn . . . or even worse, lost the game.
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Post by simonj on Nov 26, 2014 18:41:53 GMT
Having seen the 'proper' highlights I don't think it was handball. What he was doing with his arm is anyones guess though and if it had been given he'd only have himself to blame. Not that it matters, but check out the still photo on the match page you will see clearly it was handball, and can feel satisfied 98% of people aren't going mad. Also shows why the ref gave it, despite being bullied out of it.
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Post by toteend on Nov 26, 2014 18:44:47 GMT
Just watched screen soccer and it's easy to freeze the action. It was the best headed clearance I've ever seen. I feel sorry for Blissett, because it would have been an amazing goal. So no moaning, a fairly won result. No complaints from Barnet about being robbed.
We beat them fair and square, but not by a fair margin.
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Post by Rex on Nov 26, 2014 18:48:09 GMT
Just watched screen soccer and it's easy to freeze the action. It was the best headed clearance I've ever seen. I feel sorry for Blissett, because it would have been an amazing goal. So no moaning, a fairly won result. No complaints from Barnet about being robbed. We beat them fair and square, but not by a fair margin. I do feel sorry for the defender (Togwell?) . he pulled off what I thought was one of the best bits of defending I have ever seen, and most people think he cheated! Ah well, 3 points for us is the main thing.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 26, 2014 18:59:31 GMT
Surely we can get this thing cleared up once and for all? Even on photo evidence, there still seems to be contentious issues.
Can some independent broadcast company (Soccor AM?)analyse the footage and provide a fair conclusion?
Interview the player and defenders as well as all our side?
While it could be an amazing clearance, it would yield just as amazing an offial decision (as I thought the lino and ref were poor again). Conversely, if it was handball it is cheating and while everyone says justice for us, Barnet's next opponents would be dealt with a weakened squad.
And in that case there should be some punitive damages..
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Post by dido on Nov 26, 2014 19:04:28 GMT
Why is no-one quoting our manager who said his players told him it was NOT a penalty? (I know McChrystal claimed hands but that is what professionals do).
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Post by brizzle on Nov 26, 2014 19:13:24 GMT
Surely we can get this thing cleared up once and for all? Even on photo evidence, there still seems to be contentious issues. Can some independent broadcast company (Soccor AM?)analyse the footage and provide a fair conclusion? Interview the player and defenders as well as all our side? While it could be an amazing clearance, it would yield just as amazing an offial decision (as I thought the lino and ref were poor again). Conversely, if it was handball it is cheating and while everyone says justice for us, Barnet's next opponents would be dealt with a weakened squad. And in that case there should be some punitive damages.. I'll admit to being a little slow on the uptake on occasions, so bear with me. But this post is a wind-up isn't it?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 26, 2014 19:34:09 GMT
Surely we can get this thing cleared up once and for all? Even on photo evidence, there still seems to be contentious issues. Can some independent broadcast company (Soccor AM?)analyse the footage and provide a fair conclusion? Interview the player and defenders as well as all our side? While it could be an amazing clearance, it would yield just as amazing an offial decision (as I thought the lino and ref were poor again). Conversely, if it was handball it is cheating and while everyone says justice for us, Barnet's next opponents would be dealt with a weakened squad. And in that case there should be some punitive damages.. I'll admit to being a little slow on the uptake on occasions, so bear with me. But this post is a wind-up isn't it? Perhaps tongues and cheeks were involved with the post. And as we are talking parts of the body no one is seeing that along with the hand on the balls!
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Post by brizzle on Nov 26, 2014 19:47:49 GMT
I'll admit to being a little slow on the uptake on occasions, so bear with me. But this post is a wind-up isn't it? Perhaps tongues and cheeks were involved with the post. And as we are talking parts of the body no one is seeing that along with the hand on the balls! Phew, that's a relief.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 26, 2014 19:58:33 GMT
Perhaps tongues and cheeks were involved with the post. And as we are talking parts of the body no one is seeing that along with the hand on the balls! Phew, that's a relief. You get your own relief from your own hand balls...!!!
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Post by bs20gas on Nov 26, 2014 21:52:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 22:29:30 GMT
I dunno. It's like replays of dubious catches in cricket - the more you watch it, the less clear it becomes
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 22:42:30 GMT
100% not a penalty. He raises his arm, looking like he was going to punch the ball away but heads it first. If he had handballed it, the ball would have come back out into the six yard box.
Superb clearance, no ref bottling it, great decision from the official.
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