brizzle
Lindsay Parsons
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Post by brizzle on Nov 28, 2014 18:09:22 GMT
Try to rise above it and look at the bigger picture.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 28, 2014 18:28:15 GMT
Try to rise above it and look at the bigger picture. Well, I don't feel there is anything to rise above. It's possible to want to talk about something without there being anything in particular at stake, or to simply want the correct decision without needing to feel aggrieved. If you don't want to talk about it coz we won, then that's fine, too.
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brizzle
Lindsay Parsons
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Post by brizzle on Nov 28, 2014 18:41:39 GMT
Try to rise above it and look at the bigger picture. Well, I don't feel there is anything to rise above. It's possible to want to talk about something without there being anything in particular at stake, or to simply want the correct decision without needing to feel aggrieved. If you don't want to talk about it coz we won, then that's fine, too.I find myself a little confused at that statement, so perhaps it's time to leave the party eh?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 19:22:11 GMT
At the training ground yesterday. MM appealed as he wasn't sure, every other player admitted it was a header. Even Luther accepts it was a header having spoken to the others. He admits he wasn't in a position to know himself having gone over backwards trying to get the ball in. Problem is the players views were obscured by the cheating handballers dive.theres nothing to block the view I (we) had and it's the clearest handball you'll ever see from that view,not an iota of doubt in my mind it's 100% a handball.Im actually glad it wasnt given now because knowing us we would have missed the pen and still be pegged back by the 10 men!Its best left now as only the player involved can confirm the truth and that doesn't look like it will happen.
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Post by beesknees on Nov 28, 2014 19:26:34 GMT
Taken from pausehouse.com/watch?v=Dfp60VQEYXwPicture 1 Ball is inline with arm and appears from behind the goal to be struck. Picture 2 The moment the ball strikes the players head, arm can be seen to have moved downward when compared to picture 1 Picture 3 and 4 Ball rises sharply but continues in the same direction, arm continues to move away from the ball Those who claim it is handball suggest he used his arm to force the ball over the bar but the arm is moving away from the ball and the second picture shows the ball at the point of impact with the players head. At no time does a movement of the arm warrant the ball traveling in the direction it does afterwards. I'm leaving this now as there really isnt anything for me to add.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 28, 2014 20:28:07 GMT
Taken from pausehouse.com/watch?v=Dfp60VQEYXwPicture 1 Ball is inline with arm and appears from behind the goal to be struck. Picture 2 The moment the ball strikes the players head, arm can be seen to have moved downward when compared to picture 1 Picture 3 and 4 Ball rises sharply but continues in the same direction, arm continues to move away from the ball Those who claim it is handball suggest he used his arm to force the ball over the bar but the arm is moving away from the ball and the second picture shows the ball at the point of impact with the players head. At no time does a movement of the arm warrant the ball traveling in the direction it does afterwards. I'm leaving this now as there really isnt anything for me to add. Come back! Come Back! What if the ball hit the arm first and then the head? What you need is two more pics before those, so you can chart the ball's trajectory.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 20:44:49 GMT
I'm not leaving this until we hear what Hotspot and Snicko have to say about it
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Post by dickgherkin on Nov 28, 2014 21:09:27 GMT
Taken from pausehouse.com/watch?v=Dfp60VQEYXwPicture 1 Ball is inline with arm and appears from behind the goal to be struck. Picture 2 The moment the ball strikes the players head, arm can be seen to have moved downward when compared to picture 1 Picture 3 and 4 Ball rises sharply but continues in the same direction, arm continues to move away from the ball Those who claim it is handball suggest he used his arm to force the ball over the bar but the arm is moving away from the ball and the second picture shows the ball at the point of impact with the players head. At no time does a movement of the arm warrant the ball traveling in the direction it does afterwards. I'm leaving this now as there really isnt anything for me to add. Come back! Come Back! What if the ball hit the arm first and then the head? What you need is two more pics before those, so you can chart the ball's trajectory. Ahhhhhhhh...... a 2 strike, double impact theory. Interesting..... I had swung firmly back to the head camp after swearing on the saints at the time it was a hand. Now it could be a head AND a hand........ I'm back in the game.....
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 28, 2014 21:17:08 GMT
Reading this has cleared it up for me. It was 100% his head and 100% his hand lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 21:29:13 GMT
Have we ruled out a second gunman yet?
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Post by Blue Mist on Nov 28, 2014 22:24:27 GMT
With the benefit of stills and replays we still can't be conclusive. Even if your opinion is 'penalty' I think we can forgive the ref for that one.
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Post by toteend on Nov 28, 2014 23:48:46 GMT
Just got in, and looked at the Subs Bench programme. As our young un said, it's clearly a header. The programme slowed the action down to snails pace and everyone agreed it was a great header. You can watch it for yourself if you recorded it or indeed watched it live.
Best view of it by far and header 100%.
Filmed by a guy called Zebruger from the grassy knoll.
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Byron Anthony
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 29, 2014 0:15:21 GMT
We won yay!
Analysing these things is fun, but ultimately that's football
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Post by Rex on Nov 29, 2014 0:28:35 GMT
I would love to know what the defender has said, I honestly think that it was the best defensive clearance I have ever seen in years of watching football, does anyone have a social media link to Togwell (I think it was him)- I really want to know what he says.
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Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Nov 29, 2014 1:43:29 GMT
Taken from pausehouse.com/watch?v=Dfp60VQEYXwPicture 1 Ball is inline with arm and appears from behind the goal to be struck. Picture 2 The moment the ball strikes the players head, arm can be seen to have moved downward when compared to picture 1 Picture 3 and 4 Ball rises sharply but continues in the same direction, arm continues to move away from the ball Those who claim it is handball suggest he used his arm to force the ball over the bar but the arm is moving away from the ball and the second picture shows the ball at the point of impact with the players head. At no time does a movement of the arm warrant the ball traveling in the direction it does afterwards. I'm leaving this now as there really isnt anything for me to add. Well that clears all that up then....lol ! Mr Beesknees, thank you but we have several conspiracy theorists who still want to know to know who killed JFK and JR, don't suppose you have any video's or stills of those events do you ?
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Post by Bridgeman on Nov 29, 2014 1:53:50 GMT
At the training ground yesterday. MM appealed as he wasn't sure, every other player admitted it was a header. Even Luther accepts it was a header having spoken to the others. He admits he wasn't in a position to know himself having gone over backwards trying to get the ball in. Problem is the players views were obscured by the cheating handballers dive.theres nothing to block the view I (we) had and it's the clearest handball you'll ever see from that view,not an iota of doubt in my mind it's 100% a handball.Im actually glad it wasnt given now because knowing us we would have missed the pen and still be pegged back by the 10 men!Its best left now as only the player involved can confirm the truth and that doesn't look like it will happen. So are you saying our players are cheating as well by not agreeing it was handball too ?! I believe you are convinced the ball hit his arm or hand by what you saw, I was stood behind the goal to the left hand side so had as clear a view of the incident as you probably did too. I didn't appeal as I saw it came off his head so which of us is right, we probably both are However, I definitely agree with you, we normally play rubbish when other teams get reduced in numbers so I'm happy they kept their full team on the park, it makes our victory that much more enjoyable and even more so with the our winner at the death....UTG !
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Nov 29, 2014 2:00:31 GMT
Taken from pausehouse.com/watch?v=Dfp60VQEYXwPicture 1 Ball is inline with arm and appears from behind the goal to be struck. Picture 2 The moment the ball strikes the players head, arm can be seen to have moved downward when compared to picture 1 Picture 3 and 4 Ball rises sharply but continues in the same direction, arm continues to move away from the ball Those who claim it is handball suggest he used his arm to force the ball over the bar but the arm is moving away from the ball and the second picture shows the ball at the point of impact with the players head. At no time does a movement of the arm warrant the ball traveling in the direction it does afterwards. I'm leaving this now as there really isnt anything for me to add. Well that clears all that up then....lol ! Mr Beesknees, thank you but we have several conspiracy theorists who still want to know to know who killed JFK and JR, don't suppose you have any video's or stills of those events do you ? He is still re-filming and photoshopping those events. They will be ready next Tuesday. Think that the fact that this is being debated 3 days after the event proves that stopping a live game for a video ref decision is a no goer. Don't know about everybody else but I could not afford three days off work waiting for the game to be restarted!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 8:50:53 GMT
Looks bat pad to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 12:32:11 GMT
Problem is the players views were obscured by the cheating handballers dive.theres nothing to block the view I (we) had and it's the clearest handball you'll ever see from that view,not an iota of doubt in my mind it's 100% a handball.Im actually glad it wasnt given now because knowing us we would have missed the pen and still be pegged back by the 10 men!Its best left now as only the player involved can confirm the truth and that doesn't look like it will happen. So are you saying our players are cheating as well by not agreeing it was handball too ?! I believe you are convinced the ball hit his arm or hand by what you saw, I was stood behind the goal to the left hand side so had as clear a view of the incident as you probably did too. I didn't appeal as I saw it came off his head so which of us is right, we probably both are However, I definitely agree with you, we normally play rubbish when other teams get reduced in numbers so I'm happy they kept their full team on the park, it makes our victory that much more enjoyable and even more so with the our winner at the death....UTG ! You were probably near to me then,here's my photo.
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