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Post by chelt_gas on Aug 5, 2017 0:55:43 GMT
The reaction to the stadium news has shocked me more than the news itself! I'm not sure if its just pure frustration or a lack of business knowledge or just straight up anger. Why would a company sign a contract for something they dont want? This is essentially the issue one would imagine. UWE were dictating terms, we didnt like them or agree so walked away. Its a simple commercial decision. Imagine you go to a shop for a broom, you pick one out, go to pay (create a contract) and the shop owner says "ahhh well you can have the broom but ill rent you the handle, and you cant use it on sundays or tuesdays, and you cant use it to brush up leaves, only household sweeping." If you want a broom to brush up leaves on a sunday you arnt going to buy that broom under those conditions. So why would our owners for a £30m deal. Because they had every opportunity to discuss the broom, if it came with a handle included, when it could be used and for what, before taking Higgs place on your journey to the shop? Of course, UWE may have had some kind of meltdown and changed everything about the broom, if that's the case I expect that Wael will tell us all about how difficult it was trying to deal with them, but you would think that Hamer may have at least hinted at it yesterday, wouldn't you, rather than just saying that he thought the whole broom cupboard had some kind of hex on it? The reaction is understandable, fans with little knowledge of the commercial discussions acting upon impulse with little emotional control will always demonstrate 'Rage' like symptoms. The reality is that this was (is) a large commercial transaction between Seller and Purchaser but where the Purchaser has complete changed personnel midway through the negotiation phase. In hindsight, it appears odd that Heads of Terms if or weren't agreed 'Subject to Planning' way earlier in the negotiation process - my memory now escapes me. If they were then you can't blame UWE for not wanting to accept a totally revised offer from DS and, equally, you can place some accountability on DS for buying the club inclusive of outline HOTs for a new stadium at UWE. I think it's a shame for both parties. In mediation, often you start by agreeing a same desired outcome for both parties and then work backwards. I just hope both parties had always wanted, and still want, the same overall outcome for the site.
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Post by chelt_gas on Aug 5, 2017 0:37:34 GMT
Can't help but think landsdown has been sniffing around this or will be prepared to jump in now it's all gone Pete tong, this is right up his Street being involved with the student population and UWE infrastructure, Bristol rugby need somewhere permanent to play plus the women's football team. The stadium proposal is a matter of valuation for the parties concerned. Key to the proposal is (1) Value of Commercial Land against other potential land uses - this sees UWE's valuers advising on the potential for greater 'worth' if the land had an alternative development to the stadium (2) Value of land as a stadium - this is the price Rovers, the 'only' purchaser in this negotiation, are willing to pay at a point in time (3) the tenure granted by UWE to Rovers and any contractual stipulations - this ties in with 2. UWE cooperated with Higgs on the basis of (2) and (3) only for the plan to be obsolete once the club passed over to Duane Sports. DS wants a different outcome from a stadium development than what was contained in the original draft agreement and therefore the value of the development, and it's income-making potential, was not as enticing for UWE - especially considering the alternatives available to them as landowner. The return of investment from any project is key here. If the design of the stadium development is to generate additional income sources to feedback into the club then we cannot enter into an agreement with an owner who also lays claim to that additional income. I suspect that the overall aim of DS is to generate multiple income sources for the club to then sell at a larger market cap rate (in addition to a 'football club premium'). If UWE were only ever going to sell a leasehold and keep income-generating rights to themselves (car park, stadium-naming rights etc.) then that is not DS's plan although it may have been Higgs. Adding another stadium purchaser into the equation, with greater sources of purchasing power, doesn't help!! At lease a redevelopment Mem enables the present owners [the potential] to generate additional income sources albeit on a smaller scale level.
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Post by chelt_gas on Aug 5, 2017 0:18:14 GMT
Our first game is only five days away, so now might be a good point to consider how our current squad compares with the last one. (I’m taking mid-September 2016 as the point of comparison, by the way). No change…but better for the experience?
Thirteen “first-team” players are still with us. Most are in their mid-20’s, so should have improved having had a further year’s experience. Linesey is the only one over 30…let’s hope he has still to reach his peak! Ryan Broom has an opportunity to establish himself. [Leadbitter; Brown; Lockyer; Clarke (O); Harrison; Bodin; Lines; Clarke (J); Broom; Moore; Sinclair; Gaffney; Kilgour, Burn] Goalkeeper changes
Slocombe and Smith replace Mildenhall, Puddy and Roos. A “net” gain…sorry. Defender changes
McChrystal, Hartley, Tyler Little, Connor Roberts and Clarke-Salter are no longer with us. Sweeney, Broadbent, Bola, Partington and Byrne have joined. Again, we look stronger. Midfield changes
Sercombe has joined us, but Mansell, Montano and Lawrence have left, together with Colkett and Boateng. (Gosling was already on loan at Cambridge from August 2016). It looks like we might be lacking a little strength in depth in midfield. Forward changes
Taylor (18 League goals + 3 in the cups), Easter (4 + 1) and Luke James (0+ 0) have gone. (Jamie Lucas was already on loan at Boreham Wood from August 2016). The new faces are Tom Nichols (10 + 3) and Dominic Telford.Youngsters
Could we add Kelly and Menayese to the list of first-team defenders? That department looks even stronger. Are Russe, Hargreaves or Ellington ready yet to be added to the current roster for the odd appearance in League One? No doubt DC will be trying to get a couple of “forward-thinking” players in before the window closes at the end of August. updated
Added Burn in their too. WIll Mildy be a registered keeper next season in the event we have a 'goalkeeping crisis'?
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Post by chelt_gas on Aug 3, 2017 12:57:28 GMT
It's interesting how social media are replacing the press' role in challenging opinions and assumptions of people and entities. The 90's media appear limp, bound by schedules and coe=dde, and end up summmarising the days gossip and events from the forums.
However, the forums are unregulated and some of the posts in the last 12 hours have not been factual or at the very least substantiated with evidence. This is what the press have been historically good at.
The role of a football club chairman can be a lot more testing with fans constantly pressing for info. I'd far go up against shareholders than a bunch of football fans.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 21, 2017 10:41:12 GMT
I recall rovers signed Steve Bowey from the army during the early 90's. Good goals record in non-league however I was only 12 at the time and more interested in teenage mutant ninja turtles at the time. Massive Donatello fan who was actually voiced by Corey Feldman in the cartoon!
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 9, 2017 10:08:53 GMT
For me the difference is about having a board with *access to* funds, realistic plans, not throwing what they do have at a single lost cause, and improving the running of the club from within. It's not about them drawing on a bottomless money pit. On the historic thread front, I'm a tad annoyed with myself that I bothered engaging with a know-nowt who was adamant that black is white. Owners of nearly all clubs are accountable to themselves and their investors but not the fans. Therefore, unless the fans own a material stake in the club, we have to hope the owners run the business strategically and sustainably so that we continue to passively enjoy the experience. They're doing a good job, well a great job, compared to their predecessors. However, as a passive supporter, I wish for a sustainable club and get uneasy with the unknowns. We know little about the stadium yet we can only trust and respect confidentiality, we speculate about the charge placed on the stadium by whom and for what motivation and we don't quite know the wealth or access to wealth from our owners. But it has been a good ride so far and Darrel has signalled that he has confidence in the owners by the new 5-year contract. I just hope there is a succession plan in the event the owners exit that leaves rovers, as a club, in tact. The previous owners had no plan other than a distress flair which was fortunately seen from Jordan.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 7, 2017 11:04:05 GMT
This will be my first Rovers game for 4 years since emigrating. I thought our stronger squad would have gone to Yate not Melksham but I'm expecting a five-goal victory even at pre-season!
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 7, 2017 10:51:34 GMT
We should play our U23 side too. After all, the competition is about helping youngsters for our national team (the Jordanian will need special dispensation)
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 6, 2017 15:06:11 GMT
Signing Adam Smith makes economic sense for the club, particularly on a free.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 6, 2017 11:38:54 GMT
All over Twitter. So we have sercombe and now slocombe plus three Clarke's.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 3, 2017 20:15:11 GMT
We haven't got a decent goalkeeper on our books or a decent striker apart from that were doing fine nervous too fin right ! Clubs at this level have the greater control when it comes to recruitment. There's few places available for the hundreds of league quality footballers searching for work. If anything, it's not chasing everyone that's key
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 3, 2017 9:41:05 GMT
His goal return is nothing special. However, a 25-goal a season championship striker now goes for north of 10 mill. If he takes five pens, bangs in six goals in both cups, then he's only 14 goals from giving the buying club a healthy ROI.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jun 30, 2017 16:27:58 GMT
We should compete in the competition but close the stadium when at home to save costs in stewarding. If the FA are serious about given youngters real men experience then they should restrict the squad sizes of all Premiership clubs so youngsters can no longer be 'harvested'.
If premiership clubs want their youngsters to get real mens experience then they should sell them to lower league clubs but retain an option or percentage ownership. That a 23 year old is now regarded as a youth product shows how much the English game has lost it's responsibility to produce players for the national team.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jun 5, 2017 11:40:53 GMT
@official_BRFC 643 views The defender has been selected in Chris Coleman's 23-man squad for Wales' World Cup Qualifier against Serbia on Sunday. Rovers skipper Tom Lockyer has been included in the senior Welsh squad ahead of their trip to Belgrade to take on Serbia. The twenty-two-year-old spent last week at a training camp in Portugal with the Welsh national side. I'm so proud for the kid and DC. Great story. He's a proper welshy too!
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Post by chelt_gas on Jun 4, 2017 11:16:00 GMT
If he plays well in December, he'll get the Mem rocking.....it'll be a rocking Rollin Christmas! if he plays sweeper will he be 'Rollin in the Deep' And should he be the player that keeps the whole defence together he will be the rollin pin
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Post by chelt_gas on Jun 2, 2017 11:15:25 GMT
Is that like when you're in the States, and someone hears you're English and says, 'Hey, I know a Dave who lives in Norwich, do you know him'? That made I laugh. I used to go to Chicago every other year and some of the stuff you hear is just so funny. Apparently it's foggy all the time and you can drop into Buckingham palace, enjoy a cup o tea with her Maj . Also most in London travel in horse and carriage. These were genuine comments and not made in jest. I used to love playing along. The other one was their seeming lack of any geographical knowledge of anything outside of their own country. I guess you need to hear it to believe it Almost half of shermans have not been outside of the country. Given that there three main sports are only really played in America you can see the reasons for their basic outlook on life beyond their country.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jun 1, 2017 21:12:13 GMT
If he plays well in December, he'll get the Mem rocking.....it'll be a rocking Rollin Christmas! He also will help out caterers since he does a fantastic egg menayese sandwich
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Post by chelt_gas on May 31, 2017 21:23:41 GMT
That's also a big statement from the board to DC and to other prospective players. Looking forward to the unveiling of a new striker, can we pinch griezman from under the noses of Man U!!
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Post by chelt_gas on May 31, 2017 21:20:03 GMT
From what I've seen, his touch is sublime. He has a real feel for the ball, an instinctive grasp of its weight and its Sercombe-ference. I didn't know how some fans were going to sercombe-vent their anger should no proper signings be made before June.
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Post by chelt_gas on May 31, 2017 13:23:10 GMT
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