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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 22, 2017 20:15:55 GMT
I think UWE should just buy Rovers so both parties can crack on with the stadium. It's far easier agreeing terms with yourself (unless you're schizophrenic then it can be more challenging...no it can't...yes it can...)
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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 11, 2017 11:15:51 GMT
ollie gave us imo our strongest team alongside the david williams one ive seen, dc will get it right i just feel the uwe episode has killed us , stopped us in our tracks and the reality has kicked in, lacklustre now on and off the pitch forward momentum has gone Totally agree. Those two greats gave us football to look forward to and enjoy. I still love Ollie. Top man. Ollie is one of us
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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 11, 2017 10:26:20 GMT
Rovers also have a dedicated YouTube page where all interviews are uploafed. Lines comes across as candid, self aware but perhaps not an after-dinner speaker in waiting. It’s probably the best thing since sliced bread...... I’ll roll with that jibe. At yeast you bold my mistake!
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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 11, 2017 9:24:07 GMT
404 page could not be found Rovers also have a dedicated YouTube page where all interviews are uploafed. Lines comes across as candid, self aware but perhaps not an after-dinner speaker in waiting.
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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 11, 2017 9:20:57 GMT
Blackpool Apart, Ollie has made some very poor decisions & he has said so. Leaving a resurgent Plymouth was probably the biggest & he was found wanting at Leicester. As a player, legend but as a manager I think he’s just not close to great w A manager is stronger when he has made mistakes and then learned from them. He did a great job at palace and Blackpool earning both clubs the £100m promotion to the prem; he kept millwall up when he was brought in midway to a disastrous season and he got rovers so close to promotion to the championship yet was undone by the economics of player wages in that as soon as we coached a good player their head would be turned knowing they would earn three times at much if seeking a transfer. No different to Daryl’s dilemma today. Ollie is a good manager and a gashead. He also admitted his mistakes in leaving Plymouth and adopting a failed transfer strategy post cureton and Roberts.
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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 7, 2017 7:14:19 GMT
Guess the question is - to Governments of all persuasions over many a year - why have you not made it illegal to do this? Because it ain’t no good them getting the hump about it when the press are all over it and then letting it quietly go. It all kicked off last year and then fell away. Give a week or so and this will be much similar. If it’s legal some clever dick accountant will use it. Unless and until it isn’t..... Spot on, Sir. I look forward to the 'my accountant made me do it - I had no idea he was avoiding tax for me'. Do not tell me you pay an accountant all that money to ensure you pay every penny of the requisite amount of tax. No, you have an accountant for a reason. The exact opposite reason. To maximise you wealth by reducing your bills. Lewis Hamilton thinks he should not have to pay VAT on his private jet. But it is alright, because you pay VAT on your Ford Fiesta and tampons. What a patriot Hamilton is for thinking you duckwits can pay for schools/hospitals/sanitation/roads/etc, while he pays only what his account insists he needs to. What an outrage. Until we forget about it. Until the next time. We should stop putting up with this BS. But will we? No. But that's the point. We're (the people) show outrage when the conglomerates and elite avoid their moral obligation to pay tax before then buying an iPhone or Starbucks coffee without any second thought. It may change as people become accessible to greater information. It reminds me of the manager at a company who preaches to the workers how something should be done without ever being able to demonstrate how it should be done. Society works when fairness is central to it's working but we are seeing how unfair different aspects of society actually are.
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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 6, 2017 22:25:44 GMT
We should be asking our keeper for his opinion, Adam Smith is after all very synonymous with his opinions on taxation. It is relevant to football if there are people within the game which has exploited offshore tax havens to the dis-benefit of the people. Since football is now a global game awash with capital but based in the UK then we, as citizens, should be asking whether the subjects of the state and the entities that enjoy our state protection are meeting their responsibilities to pay back to the state.
Seeing Lewis Hamilton, Rooney, Ferdinand et al avoiding millions in tax whilst at the same time seeing Rovers supporters trying to raise a fraction of money for medical treatment for a fellow fan since our NHS cannot cover it is morally wrong.
Football is (or was) meant to be the people's game but you do sometimes question this.
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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 6, 2017 11:25:01 GMT
Simulation is just as bad as taking performance enhancing drugs. Even worse if cheating then deprives a player from a once in a lifetime experience (Suarez). I know quite a few South Americans and many of my Uruguyan and Argentinian friends find the British moralising on diving to be hilarious and hypocritical. In their football culture 'cunning' is just considered part of the sport. To deceive the referee to gain an advantage for your team is seen as intelligent and clever play not some violation of the morality of sport or a defection of moral character. They often criticise those who have been done over by divers for being foolish and naïve to put themselves in that position. They also point out that the British spent decades illegally kicking star players out of games and the players that did that were often lauded as 'honest' 'tough' etc but if the player being kicked tried to gain an advantage by throwing themselves to the ground to illustrate this to the referee then these would be the players who were labelled 'cheats' not the player who was kicking the 6 shades of s*** out of them all game - many think that is ridiculous. Argentinians would defend the Hand of God by saying that Terry Butcher spent the whole of the game in 86 trying to injure Maradona and keep him out of the game with persistent foul play (something Bucher has admitted since) with a ref that was turning a blind eye- so they just see it as cunning justice against a team they perceived as utter thugs (hypocritical justification in itself of cause because Argentina were hardly choirboys). I'm not arguing that they are right but there are different perspectives and the idea of sport as some grand morality play is a fairly uniquely British thing in my experience - it seems completely nonsensical and patronisingly superior to many other sporting cultures. Rules govern the global participation of a sport therefore it is academic whether the Argentinians interpretation of sport includes cunning; the Russians interpretation including doping or the British interpretation including imposing oneself through fouling. There's no moral high ground being taken here.
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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 4, 2017 23:43:57 GMT
Simulation is just as bad as taking performance enhancing drugs. Even worse if cheating then deprives a player from a once in a lifetime experience (Suarez).
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Post by chelt_gas on Nov 4, 2017 23:40:32 GMT
The FA Cup is a pointless competition unless you're a top 10 Prem side looking for a trophy or 20,000 leagues below the Conference and want a 10-second clip of your pub team scoring a goal with a banner 'the magic of the cup!' above the video player on the BBC website. This result is not a cause for concern, the league is our concern and we're only 4 points off the play-offs in that. Honestly we need to chill the f out, Gas. Whilst I somewhat agree, (although a good cup run is good for morale and potential monetary rewards), I think what concerns us most is we are allowing goals to be conceded all too easily. If our league defensive form wasn't emulated in cup , bad tactics competitions, fair play....but unfortunately we seem to capitulate to any team that wants to have a go at us and have taken our league away form into the fa cup. A bit worrying really. DC must decide whether the sequence of results (and performances) is temporary poor form that can be reversed or a wider issue of a mix of player quality, tactics or motivation. Often immediate change in player transfers do not solve a more endemic issue of the tactics, morale or simple understanding between existing players. It is however a convenient scapegoat for a manager to suggest existing players are the greatest issue if there’s no one questioning other causes of poor form. Watching Bournemouth last night it was nice to see some players at prem level who were playing lower league football only a few years previous. Sticking with players can also be just as good an answer as bring in new faces to an unsteady ship.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 30, 2017 4:06:56 GMT
Thanks Angas, has anyone access to a link where foreigners can watch it?
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 29, 2017 7:22:27 GMT
Rugby league is massive in the Southern Hemisphere and I’ve been a very happy convert. When I’m back in Brexit I’ll be following the rugby in addition to rovers. However I think any new club principally forming on the basis of making money from an untapped catchment will fail to succeed. You need a culture, history and identity before a club will have appeal otherwise you’re just an MK Dons.
I’d like rovers to actively help build an existing rugby league club if we were ever to co-locate with a club.
Meanwhile Tonga are giving Scotland a lesson in the rugby World Cup in oz. its quite embarrassing for the scotch, especially in their tartan shorts!! 38-0 at half time.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 26, 2017 21:58:43 GMT
To compare us to city is the same as Notts Forest to Notts Cointy there will always be one club more successful than the other. For us there is no comparison, we will never be as big a club as city. Most of our history has been in this division, most of City's has been in the division above. Lansdowne has effectively retired from business probably living of the interest that he has a accrued from his one billion fortune. I doubt if the El Quadi family have that sort of cash (each) I say each because Lansdowne has that fortune ON HIS OWN. For me the Dunfords saved us from oblivion and then Geoff brought us back home. I will be eternally grateful for both. You post looks like your eyes have gone green with envy. Why bother worrying about them? or their tax dodging chairman. Truth is we are doing better than we should whilst all the money Lansdowne has spent over the years means that they are not doing as well as they should. Jealousy gets you nowhere That lot from the wrong side of town don't have the history that Forest have, we have an awful lot more potential than County. No doubt there are comparisons that could be made, but that isn't a great one. Either way, there's a choice, wallow around in the 3rd division and always wonder about the potential of a club that takes 40,000+ to showpiece games, or stick some money on the table and join the chasing pack in the 2nd tier. Over to you Hani. Not holding my breath though History can also be created by good management, history is not about money is about achievements and the story behind how success was achieved. For all of Lansdown's laundry money currently buying success and 1982's notorious bankruptcy episode I'd much rather take our history of achieving to stay afloat from careful accounting and digging in deep. That's something s**theads can never buy and I hope Wael achieves success for the club through achievement rather than paying reluctant foreign imports to join the team (we'll ignore the Latvian in our case).
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 26, 2017 21:52:59 GMT
The absence of wingers available has created a vacuum in the squad; at least Broom redresses the balance.
Give him a starting place and watch him fly off the handle.
I think it's time the side needs a bit of B-room service. However, this could be witchful thinking.
I'm available for all good wedding receptions and anniversary parties.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 25, 2017 22:00:13 GMT
At least the Al-Q's are structuring the business so that any personnel becomes replaceable if they should leave for whatever reason. That's business after all.
With Darryl being highly regarded in the football fraternity it gives both owners and himself the inevitable dilemma that there will be an opportunity cost in staying at the club if there should be outside offers for his services. This cost will be a combination of both salary and responsibilities (he may get a higher salary at a club such as Leeds but less of a say in the club's operations). However, should he leave then the current wider vision for both the playing staff and the club infrastructure should continue to be progressed with his replacement. The assumption is that there is a vision of course.
We should avoid the pattern of most clubs in sacking a manager (and his staff) every two years with the inevitable new guy wanted to change the infrastructure of the club. That's junior business.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 24, 2017 21:48:28 GMT
As other posts have mentioned, the quantity of spectators in a stadium is becoming less of a priority to a football club given the other revenue streams potentially available to club owners; especially in the higher tier. Therefore, Curly Wurly is right in lobbying to enhance a brand of Bristol Rovers by a 'quirky' stadium befitting of our recent legacy. Having an identity and winning a trophy is more important than having no identity and seeing a billionaire-backed club buy success from foreign, suspicious, funds. I'm all for Wael if he recognises this in his plan for the club and that the club is bigger than any owner past, present or future.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 22, 2017 0:38:13 GMT
Football is not a science, we have won multiple games in succession and we’ll lose multiple games in succession but we have a manager and squad who can adapt. So long as we learn from mistakes, which we do, it’ll be fine.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 21, 2017 11:52:58 GMT
My respects to all connected with Geoff; a man who gave time and desire for the club and will stay remembered. A significant man in the history of rovers and indeed bristol and Bath; a significant man for every Bristol Rovers supporter.
RIP. Thank-you Geoff.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 21, 2017 2:18:25 GMT
My theory, which I’ve just made up with very little basis and no evidence, is that Rovers are to be used as an entity to absorb excess capital from a larger international group of companies under the AL-Q umbrella. Unlike PSG the owners want their future success to be earned through good management and not by chucking sovereign wealth money obtained by political deception.
Can’t wait for our tour of Jordan; Gareth Gates gave it good reviews when he went there ten years ago.
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Post by chelt_gas on Oct 20, 2017 12:23:37 GMT
Interesting that Mitch Harding stopped playing football soon after. He has quit a decent PT business with Matt Macey a customer mitchharding.com/welcome/ Good on him
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