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Post by Nobbygas on May 16, 2023 19:05:04 GMT
It doesn't matter if you're a soldier, sailor, policeman whatever, but it's always better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6. No one is celebrating the Poluce tasering this kid, but how sad is the fact that they had to.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 15, 2023 14:32:02 GMT
Why don't you look at it this way. One of the main things we lack from politician's from ALL parties is honesty. At least he is being honest and admitting the mistake. We could do with more of that in British politics.......instead of calling him a wΓΓΓer.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 15, 2023 8:17:38 GMT
In a rather pathetic stance or seemingly arrogance...the invader attacked the home town of the Eurovision singers from Ukraine as they took the stage and during their performance,and also the capital....just sad pathetic bully boys who can't get their own way.. Possibly showing that they can hit targets wherever they want to ? not a fan of targeting cities with bombing raids and missiles but its been happening since WW1. I hope this doesn't come across as being callous, but the military mindset would be happy (if that's the word) that the Russians are wasting vital weapons on what are essentially non-threatening targets. They really should be targeting military targets. It's not looking good for the Russians around Bakhmut.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 12, 2023 14:48:44 GMT
North Korea is always having food supply problems,imagine if Russia exchanges massive amounts of grain etc for 50,000 North Korean 'volunteers' and equipment to fight in Ukraine. Don't think that will make much difference. Russia would have to supply them, and as we know, Russia logistics is very poor. Plus, who are to say the NK's are any good?
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Post by Nobbygas on May 12, 2023 14:36:54 GMT
It's all misinformation. However, the Ukes will not cross the border into Russian with tanks.....but then again? How about this scenario. Ukraine cross the border. Russia responds with a tactical nuclear weapon. This will bring in NATO, who will destroy the Russian military. That's a big win for Ukraine. I have no doubt that someone somewhere has war-gammed this. I have been watching the weather forecast for Kharkov area,its been mixed but higher temperatures now must be drying the mud out,and it will need to be dry for Leopards and Challenger 2 and Abrams ( if Abrams is there in anything but token force ). I have wondered about that scenario,I wonder if Russia would use tactical nukes ? if the Ukes cross the border they would surely be tempted but i think that they are playing a longer game, they will weaponise the grain again and keep hoping that the Western alliance starts to disintegrate. In your scenario the next step would be Russia launching strategic nuclear weapons because that would be their only way of 'winning'. Seriously, I don't think the Ukes will cross the border......except for sneaky beaky stuff.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 12, 2023 14:35:35 GMT
I don't think it was a problem for the Ukes to get men and supplies to Bahkmut. I know for a fact that units have been rotated in/out. Even Zelensky visited the place about three weeks ago. One of the problems the Russians face is their military doctrine. It has been developed to only include advancing. They have just not trained or are not prepared, for defence. It's a concept they never envisaged. We can see that they have developed some static defenses in places, but a modern arm will just turn these places into death traps for the defenders. History has already shown that static defenses just don't really work. Do the Russians have a QRF capability behind the front line? They may have it but will it be any good? Yes the Ukes were getting men into Bakhmut and I think that was what the Russians wanted,for the Ukes to keep pushing men into the meat grinder, could the Russians have cut the roads ? maybe they could but maybe they didnt want to,we will only know when the history books are written, the casualty ratio figures will be interesting. No, the roads have not been cut. Both of the flanks (or pincers) that were threatening Bahkmut are both in full retreat apparently.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 12, 2023 13:04:32 GMT
Unverified accounts of Ukrainian forces (from a pro Kremlin war correspondent) on the move and regaining ground in the Bahkmut area,and that Ruskies are abandoning previously held positions, Western supplied tanks and armour seen on transporters heading toward the eastern front line ...πΊπ¦πΊπ¦πΊπ¦πΊπ¦ I saw the reports of Western tanks on low loaders seen on the northern Kharkov ring road, the border is only about 25 miles from Kharkov if the Ukes crossed the border towards Belgorod on the Moscow road it will escalate things. tbh though some of these reports could be red herrings or maybe movements of armour to draw Russian forces to that area. It's all misinformation. However, the Ukes will not cross the border into Russian with tanks.....but then again? How about this scenario. Ukraine cross the border. Russia responds with a tactical nuclear weapon. This will bring in NATO, who will destroy the Russian military. That's a big win for Ukraine. I have no doubt that someone somewhere has war-gammed this.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 12, 2023 13:00:20 GMT
It appears that the Russians have put weaker units on the flanks around Bahkmut to hold the flanks while the stronger units centrally kept trying to take Bahkmut. The Ukrainians have recognised this and have applied pressure to the flanks resulting in the weaker units quite literally collapsing and retreating. The Wagner troops in the centre will now have to withdraw as they will be in danger of encirclement. Personally I don't believe this is the planned Ukrainian offensive but a 'Brucie Bonus'. I am surprised that the Ukes didnt push the Russian troops away from the roads entering Bahkmut from the west a long time ago,the Uke transport has been running the gauntlet and they must have taken big losses there. Seems like that battle has been one of attrition, both sides trying to cause mass casualties to their enemies like Verdun. I read somewhere that the front is 900 miles long ? the Russians cant defend that in strength, maybe have 'fire brigade' units poised to counter attack any Uke breakthrough ? I don't think it was a problem for the Ukes to get men and supplies to Bahkmut. I know for a fact that units have been rotated in/out. Even Zelensky visited the place about three weeks ago. One of the problems the Russians face is their military doctrine. It has been developed to only include advancing. They have just not trained or are not prepared, for defence. It's a concept they never envisaged. We can see that they have developed some static defenses in places, but a modern arm will just turn these places into death traps for the defenders. History has already shown that static defenses just don't really work. Do the Russians have a QRF capability behind the front line? They may have it but will it be any good?
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Post by Nobbygas on May 12, 2023 7:44:17 GMT
Unverified accounts of Ukrainian forces (from a pro Kremlin war correspondent) on the move and regaining ground in the Bahkmut area,and that Ruskies are abandoning previously held positions, Western supplied tanks and armour seen on transporters heading toward the eastern front line ...πΊπ¦πΊπ¦πΊπ¦πΊπ¦ It appears that the Russians have put weaker units on the flanks around Bahkmut to hold the flanks while the stronger units centrally kept trying to take Bahkmut. The Ukrainians have recognised this and have applied pressure to the flanks resulting in the weaker units quite literally collapsing and retreating. The Wagner troops in the centre will now have to withdraw as they will be in danger of encirclement. Personally I don't believe this is the planned Ukrainian offensive but a 'Brucie Bonus'.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 22:13:57 GMT
But during the Brexit nonsense in the HoC, where the politicians were hell bent on overturning the democratic will of the British people, you were cheering Parliamentary Democracy from the rooftops, telling us all to check our facts and Parliamentary Democracy was more important than the people's democracy! So, when it looked like going your way Parliamentary Democracy was great. Now that Parliamentary Democracy does something you don't agree with it's suddenly "majority in Parliament pass these manifestly stupid, undemocratic laws" ! You still haven't answered this even though I have now mentioned it a few times. Because you display a fundamental misunderstanding of Parliamentary Democracy. I, and others, have explained this to you more than once, but you just don't get it, either because you really don't or are arguing for the sake of it. I hope it's the latter Ah, so we're all dumb, but you can't actually answer my valid question.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 13:26:13 GMT
Nobbygas....you make a point on the Coronation thread regarding the UN. By coincidence I am reading a book about the Korean war at the moment, I didnt realise that at the time of the North Korean invasion the Soviets were boycotting the security council. The UN resolution condemning the invasion and calling North Korean withdrawl was passed 9-0....'it was a landmark event,probably never to be repeated'..... I have wondered why the UN doesnt intervene in Ukraine (or some other conflicts) the truth seems to be because of the way its been set up it cant....so totally useless. The other interesting thing (to me) is that for many years the US and South Koreans didnt realise the casualties that they had inflicted on the North Koreans during the weeks after the invasion and the retreat to the Pusan area... tbh I am sceptical about the figures quoted as the US and South Koreans were routed but it makes me think that we will not learn the truth about Uke casualties for a long time (if ever) we are told that the Russians have taken large casualties but as they have been constantly fighting the Ukes must have had huge casualties too. Yep, the UN cannot do anything about Ukraine as the Russians and the Chinese will just veto any resolutions. There is no doubt that the Ukranians have been taking a lot of casualties, however I do believe that their casualty rates are far lower than the Russians. From the many videos available it's quite obvious that the Ukes take the treating of their wounded very seriously. Their treatment of wounded troops appears to be far better than that of the Russians. Plus, over the winter the Ukes have been holding defensive positions with the Russians constantly trying to attack them. This will mean huge differences in the casualty rates.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 13:12:02 GMT
I'm confused now Oldie... is your gripe with the Police for doing their job and upholding the law, with this "Law" or both? Has "Sir" Kier come out and said he will revoke this law should he get into power? I take it you fully support the Just Stop Oil activists and their actions. To answer your only sensible question is my issue is with the law(s) as passed onto the Statute Book over the last 18 months (approx). These laws gave the police Carte Blanche to arrest people if they were causing a "nuisance, updated to now include arrest for carrying super glue. Let me make this clear...I support the police, they have a difficult and often dangerous job to perform. Do they make mistakes, heah absolutely, but he without sin cast the first stone on that one. But their job is to enforce the laws as laid out in the Statute Book, laws democratically authorised by our Sovereign Parliament. Right or wrong, they have no choice. The problem is very stupid, sometimes lying, politicians who win elections on a false pretext and then with that majority in Parliament pass these manifestly stupid, undemocratic laws that our under resourced police are then tasked to enforce. Worse, they are now asked to interpret. Ring any bells for you France? But during the Brexit nonsense in the HoC, where the politicians were hell bent on overturning the democratic will of the British people, you were cheering Parliamentary Democracy from the rooftops, telling us all to check our facts and Parliamentary Democracy was more important than the people's democracy! So, when it looked like going your way Parliamentary Democracy was great. Now that Parliamentary Democracy does something you don't agree with it's suddenly "majority in Parliament pass these manifestly stupid, undemocratic laws" ! You still haven't answered this even though I have now mentioned it a few times.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 8:23:42 GMT
C'mon Terry, the UN? Are you serious? What are the UN doing about the huge issue regarding Human Rights, namely the Russian invasion of Ukraine? This is far more important than arresting a Stop the Oil protester in London.
The UN has no relevance. It's a toothless tiger, a talking shop for non-entities.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 7:44:18 GMT
The Police did a good job. They did a very good job of exposing this "law" for the crass stupidity that it is. But, wave the flag and some people will support anything. Oldie, grow up. If the Police had date or intelligence that showed someone was planning to break the law, then the vast majority of people in the country will support the Police taking action beforehand. To argue otherwise is just crass. What were the protesters planning? Who knows, but if it happened in front of the many horses on show then it could have led to injury or even death from the horses going out of control. Parliamentary Democracy passed the law. That very same Parliamentary Democracy you have lauded and indeed praised in the past.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 7:34:25 GMT
"The Met also confirmed it had used a controversial new law to detain the group." That would be the new Tory law introduced to suppress freedom of assembly. My local milkie has been arrested for whistling whilst delivering the milk. Local police said he was being a "nuisance" and they suspected the whistling was a cover for other nefarious activities. When searching his milk van they discovered a pen and notebook with names and addresses. CID are checking who these people are and could they be part of a wider "gang". All the addresses were in the same street and had notes such as "3 Pints" The investigation continues nothing new on that..... think you will find that in years gone by several milk delivery personell have been cautioned over their early morning whistling True dit: Whistling onboard a Royal Navy ship was forbidden. I don't know if it still is.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 9, 2023 6:01:07 GMT
Well well The Met have now apologised. BBC News - Coronation: Met Police express 'regret' over arresting six anti-monarchy protesters www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65527007Must be embarrassing for those of you who were lauding their actions. πβ€΅οΈ Only over six people.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 8, 2023 15:28:23 GMT
The 'shaping of the battlefield' appears to be ongoing. Reports suggest a number of fuel dumps have been hit in the Crimea over the last few days. Tomorrow could be interesting. It's the May 9th parade in Red Square, Moscow. How delicious if a couple of drones dropped in, with no explosives, but just had yellow and blue smoke cannisters!
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Post by Nobbygas on May 8, 2023 15:17:40 GMT
So you have a group of people who are anti monarchists [AM] i presume they call themselves , fair play to them , respect their views on that no problem, but wish to impose themselves and their thoughts on the greater majority of people wishing to embrace the day, IF the AM want to have a show or gathering to express their views then why not just go and have their gathering where they will not annoy the majority and likely provoke some sort of reaction ....as what tends to occur at some time during these high profile events English Republicans. They have a right to protest. Hang on, let me correct myself, they HAD a right to protest. As a republican myself I was mightily inconvenienced by by the supporting crowds, utterly bored with the relentless propaganda on all media outlets. But do I want a law placed on the Statute Book which gives the Executive Branch of our democracy the right to shut all that down? Absolutely not. Voltaire was spot on all those years ago "The right to free speech is more important than the content of the speech" So, the law was passed in Parliament. Aren't you the one who argued that Parliamentry Democracy was sacrosanct, especially during the Brexit debacle in the House? The word 'hypocrite' springs to mind. One minute you claim Parliamentry Democracy is ok especially when it's going your way, the next you want to ignore it! Make your mind up.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 8, 2023 4:49:06 GMT
Weren't rape alarms seized by the Police resulting in a few arrests. So would you prefer these alarms to have been used to disrupt the procession. That could have resulted in a horse being spooked and serious injury to the rider or member of public . So it wasn't just waiving a few placards. In answer to your response the concept is the same with arrests being made before they commit a crime. So You are advocating arresting people because you "think" they might commit a crime? Jesus Christ. If the data the Police have leads them to believe a crime is about to be committed, then yes. It's not "think, it's actual data.
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Post by Nobbygas on May 5, 2023 16:55:19 GMT
First off, every country in the world has a level of corruption. It's a human trait unfortunately. For someone to suggest that the UK is more corrupt than Somalia is quite frankly laughable, especially as it appears the comment was made by someone who has never set foot in Somalia. As for the Wagner PMC, it appears as if there is a power play going on to me. So from that I take you are happy to take the Tories corruption and the fall in trust in the UK as it happens everywhere ... interesting. Do you think Russia has sufficient troops of their own to replace the Wagner suicide squad? C'mon Terry, nobody is happy with corruption of any kind, but it's just a fact that it happens everywhere. The Russian Army is still strong. They may do many stupid things but they still outnumber and outgun the Ukrainians.
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