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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 2, 2015 8:50:14 GMT
Nick's record speaks for itself, but we are talking about a football club, so the use of words such as ' ' isn't really justified.
I doubt very much that the FC will be put into administration any time soon. The FC may not but its parent 1883 Ltd which owns the ground might.... If you're believing that is the likeliest outcome because you believe that would protect the football club from points deduction etc then I think you will find the Football League has already blown that out of the water in dealing with Coventry's problems in the past. Either company goes into administration we will be hit with the appropriate penalties |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 1, 2015 15:37:20 GMT
that's good in the same way that nuclear war and famines are good. Not a fan then! MLS more pointless than the Women's world cup. By the way whoever won that? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 1, 2015 15:35:59 GMT
Can someone provide a quick summary of the Ukelele case please? I think, without kidding, that its something like the British Ukelele Orchestra against the Ukelele Orchestra of Great Britain
a bit like that Monty Python sketch about the Judean People's Front and the People's Front of Judea
So tomorrow we'll find out who is a naughty boy? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 1, 2015 14:05:49 GMT
With ref to BSS, why would people suggest alternatives standing for fans director, when KP has so clearly stated the position of our existing ones. Furthermore, why would BSS stand down? Do you really think that NH would care about that? BSS is far more useful to us the fans by being on board the leaky ship, trying to bring about change. As for KM, like him or loath him he does a specific job for Rovers extremely well. If Rod or anyone else wants to stand against him fair enough, in the knowledge that they will be required to follow on in doing KM's role. Of course, several others on here are continually bitching about the roles our fans directors play. Stand for it yourselves then if you can do better. Or do you realise that you really are in the minority when it comes to our reps?. As for real change, that can only come about with NH relinquishing control. Until then we need him to stay if only to bankroll us for a short time longer.its no bloody use to anyone saying get rid of them all. Who would take over, you keyboard warriors? No, we desperately need a change of ownership and a change of direction, but someone with the readies would be required. If NH goes with no successor in place, the bankruptcy court will be our next court date, never mind what's going on in the High Court, or more to the point not going on right now. An alternative representative may be better able to speak out when things like the KS ban happen. Brian said at the time that he was present when the ban was implimented, but that he was told that the ban was already in place but had not been actioned. He didn't ask for the justification or minutes of the meeting where the ban was originally approved, he just waved the ban through. What has BSS achieved in his many years holding the position? He begged some tellies from Tesco, shakes a few hands and....... ? Oh, and as far as anybody was able to work out he wasn't a SS member when he first stood for election, he said he was, but the membership records were checked, his name didn't appear. Of course, it's for the SC membership to decide who they want, BSS won a resounding victory in the last ballot, he holds the position legitimately, nobody can dispute that. If Rod still wants the position and has been playing the long game then he should be well placed to oust Masters at the next election. I'll vote for you Bamber and think you'll make the perfect supporters director. The good times are going to roll. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 1, 2015 8:39:04 GMT
Exactly we as fans have been treated badly and kept in the dark for years, how is NH and the current set up so much better than new investors? New investors will probably have more money for a start and hopefully better ideas when it comes to running a club that potentially is one of the highest earning in our league (based on gates etc) also they will hopefully be better when it comes to the other commercial aspects e.g. merchandise, maybe better ticket prices and offers that actually reward fans etc. I never really feel part of any "family" at games, and on here the board blind faith brigade are always quick to put anyone in their place who questions anything hardly brotherly. I think its fatuous to describe anyone, any financial organisation, intending to put money into a football club as an "investor". How many shareholders in pro clubs are receiving a return on their capital? No, what a hedge fund smells is leverage. To be able to take a new build stadium, convert to multi use and sale on to an experienced operating company who will relish access over the guaranteed lease period (its a hundred years isnt it) Rovers would be just one of the tenants in this scenario, the dream of incremental revenues to the club just a pipe dream. Albeit they are already. Would you like to expand on 'multi-use' which seems to be the new buzzword? Does that mean rugby, which has always been planned for, or concerts, that have always been planned for, or something else? Leverage on developing football stadiums usually means developing the surrounding land for multiple uses, as for an example the Ricoh arena in Coventry. But how much land will be in our lease with the UWE I'm guessing enough for the stadium and car park. Any chances to current plans will have to be agreed with the leaseholder who definitely want a car park there. So to use us as a leverage I'm guessing the hedgefund would need to get more land from UWE or another landowner. The other option for a hedgefund is to develop the business and sell at a huge profit, which is mostly what they do. So what is the cheapest way to leverage a profit from the huge new TV deals, um maybe buy cheap get to Championship and sell big? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 1, 2015 8:25:27 GMT
In fairness to the guy did he really get that much of a chance to prove himself? He didn't do that well but he did show moments of quality I think, I'm sure I'm wrong though as someone will tell me now. Probably why he has chosen a fresh start at Carlisle |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 30, 2015 14:27:11 GMT
The Queen would be an acceptable investor. But since the passing away of our beloved Margaret Thatcher I can't think of any others that would be acceptable. In capitals or not, I guess in capitals may make them seem more capable to some? How can a lizard invest in a football club? Obviously exactly what I thought about women oops sorry WOMEN. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 30, 2015 14:03:07 GMT
Imagine if the investor is a WOMAN! The Queen would be an acceptable investor. But since the passing away of our beloved Margaret Thatcher I can't think of any others that would be acceptable. In capitals or not, I guess in capitals may make them seem more capable to some? |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 30, 2015 13:55:51 GMT
thought the planning permission allowed for 2 or 3 a year, certainly not enough to support running a stadium on it's own The answer in Curly's post 'the need to protect the pitch' may no longer be an issue due to Bristol rugby not joining us at UWE so that could open the door to more concerts ect? Doesn't worry Wembley or the millennium or any other number of stadiums around the world. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 30, 2015 13:00:15 GMT
Can anyone tell me what time this extravaganza of football is on tomorrow? Coverage starts at 11:10, kickoff at midnight on BBC 1. Phew thank God for that I was worried I might have flicked through the channels and accidentally come across it. Now I'll be free to ponder all night why the women at Wimbledon are only slated to play 3/5ths of the tennis as men but get the same prize money. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 30, 2015 12:07:56 GMT
Can anyone tell me what time this extravaganza of football is on tomorrow?
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 30, 2015 12:02:27 GMT
Unless Planning permission is going to be changed what else can happen at UWE stadium apart from Rugby?
From UWE Stadium faq: Q. Will there be music concerts held at the stadium? If so, how will noise and transport issues be managed? A. The number of concerts would be limited by the need to protect the pitch for the football and rugby use. The option to hold a limited number of events will be included in the planning application. Can't remember if the number was specifically limited by the PP, but that was one part of multi-use. thought the planning permission allowed for 2 or 3 a year, certainly not enough to support running a stadium on it's own |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 30, 2015 8:39:45 GMT
Will the new pitch help the visually impaired?
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 30, 2015 8:30:01 GMT
Hedge Fund Nice, good bye club if that happens Does that mean you'll say goodbye to the club or it's goodbye to the club? Seems to me a hedge fund will look to make money on it's investment either by increasing the value of the business to sell it or asset strip. If the Sainsbury's deal goes our way & contracts are signed to build UWE then effectively there will be no assets to strip, the Sainsbury's cash will be ring-fenced to pay construction costs (I've always been of the belief that this would've been a stipulation of the contract with UWE), the land could only be used with the lease holder's consent & a stadium has a limited number of uses and in the context of Bristol only one user. The only danger to the club is selling it before the outcome of the Sainsbury's case or without committing the new buyers to legally build the UWE. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 29, 2015 8:59:57 GMT
Good news for the Women's WC as I see the BBC to drum up more viewers have started a new advertising blitz, apparently it's called Wimbledon.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 26, 2015 15:53:18 GMT
I wouldn't read it twice let alone thrice . And you can make up anything about my 'approach' you like but that's just your opinion (god you do have one) not fact. Keep sitting on the face making the cosy assumption that just because someone was good in the Conference they will be good enough for L2. I mean it worked out for Dickie Walker when we got promoted..... Oh hang on. I find it a pity you can’t think for yourself so keep relying on others opinions.
So for you the virtue is in having an opinion, whether you can qualify it or not?
I've qualified my opinion perhaps you need to read it 3 times to understand. All you've qualified is why you haven't got an opinion. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 26, 2015 13:34:41 GMT
You'll understand why I reject your opinion & approach of ' he's good until he isn't ' and form my opinion based on what I see relative to the level they are playing at. To adopt your approach would mean taking into account that no other coach or manager has ever seen enough in Puddy to play him in L2. Having said that I hope, based on the fact he is likely to be in goal, that he is a roaring success in L2 and my skeptical opinion is proven wrong. Perhaps you might understand after a third reading of my post?
I'm not saying he's good until he isn't. I'm saying I'm willing to accept the judgement of our current management team, until I see a reason to think otherwise. I don't think I can put it more simply.
Your approach means that no-one will ever sign anyone below the level they are playing at. Players can improve.
I wouldn't read it twice let alone thrice . And you can make up anything about my 'approach' you like but that's just your opinion (god you do have one) not fact. Keep sitting on the face making the cosy assumption that just because someone was good in the Conference they will be good enough for L2. I mean it worked out for Dickie Walker when we got promoted..... Oh hang on. I find it a pity you can’t think for yourself so keep relying on others opinions. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 26, 2015 13:29:03 GMT
I'm still annoyed we missed out on Ian Wright before he joined Palace. And when we did get him he was totally wasted at centreback. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 26, 2015 10:34:13 GMT
I see what you are saying from the fence. Supporters aren't allowed opinions and should just agree with whatever the manager & coaches decide. Oh well that'll be a faceless existence. Did you have the same opinion under Buckle or McGhee or when Spiess was punching the ball into his own net? No, perhaps the fence is too high for you to hear me properly. Read what I have written again, if you like. I said that I am happy to accept the opinion of the coaches (as long as I have confidence in them - which is based on evidence) on players who I am yet to form a proper opinion on. That obviously changes when there is evidence. e.g. Spiess punching the ball into his own net on a regular basis.
You'll understand why I reject your opinion & approach of ' he's good until he isn't ' and form my opinion based on what I see relative to the level they are playing at. To adopt your approach would mean taking into account that no other coach or manager has ever seen enough in Puddy to play him in L2. Having said that I hope, based on the fact he is likely to be in goal, that he is a roaring success in L2 and my skeptical opinion is proven wrong. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 26, 2015 9:06:28 GMT
3 pages before you are forced into offering an opinion which is you have no opinion. That fence most be playing havoc with the crack of your arse. Personally not seen anything in Puddy to look forward to him being first choice, what I have seen of him suggests he would be a very able backup. And what we have seen I think for his height he is good on crosses, under pressure from big players gets pushed around (Dover which was a foul but there will be plenty of that next season), generally under pressure not good (Wembley neither occasion did he need to charge out of his box Macclesfield away & next home game mistakes should've cost goals) and shot stopping the poor standard (top clubs equal to L2 is a joke) ment he really didn't have many to make or be judged on. None of which alters the fact we have 3 goalkeepers one of which DC lost faith in, one of which we both seem to agree that the jury is still out on & one I haven't seen play but I been told on this forum isn't good enough for Conference South. Phew at least the goalie isn't a critical position.
I don't think there's anything wrong with taking a considered approach. To form a definite opinion when you don't really have enough evidence is just arrogance.
All goalkeepers get pushed around by big players. And all goalkeepers make mistakes. I don't think his mistakes per game is particularly high, as evidenced by the low number of goals he conceded. But maybe he has just been lucky - less than half a season, behind a very good defence at that level, probably isn't enough time to judge. Which is why I haven't. Those with more opportunity to judge are people who see him every day in training, as well as during games, are able to talk to him about things that have happened and able to see whether he is improving over time - i.e. the coaching staff. So if the jury is still out, then I'm happy to go with their opinion.
I see what you are saying from the fence. Supporters aren't allowed opinions and should just agree with whatever the manager & coaches decide. Oh well that'll be a faceless existence. Did you have the same opinion under Buckle or McGhee or when Spiess was punching the ball into his own net? |
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