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Post by fatherjackhackett on Aug 27, 2021 20:59:15 GMT
Are you pissed again? 😎 Father Jack was in Belgium or some such nonsense on the day of the D&R game...I think. (Might have been the year before though - Wembley) No, I haven't been drinking and fully supported your ban. 😁 Constantly pissed Doc. It might have been a week before, then again it might not have been FJ and a total stranger liked my arse. Thank you for your support. I was in Nijmegen on the day of the D & R game watching the Tour of Italy cycling and Jason Roberts losing his stuff on Final Score in an Irish pub there. But yeah, I did give you a lift up Muller Road the game before.
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Post by alftupper on Aug 28, 2021 6:40:58 GMT
What happens as you get older is that the support ebbs and flows, but I think that for me, this is more a disenchantment with the sport. There is less emotional attachment and less dependency on a result. I feel like I am weaning myself off football, but that is partly from recognition that previous highs are no longer achievable. To be fair, the two greatest highs that I`ve had in 40 years of watching the Gas, were the penalty shoot out at Wembley that got us back into the Football League, and Browner`s late late winner that took us up again, twelve months later. And they both happened, relatively recently.
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Post by The Concept on Aug 28, 2021 12:43:46 GMT
What happens as you get older is that the support ebbs and flows, but I think that for me, this is more a disenchantment with the sport. There is less emotional attachment and less dependency on a result. I feel like I am weaning myself off football, but that is partly from recognition that previous highs are no longer achievable. To be fair, the two greatest highs that I`ve had in 40 years of watching the Gas, were the penalty shoot out at Wembley that got us back into the Football League, and Browner`s late late winner that took us up again, twelve months later. And they both happened, relatively recently.
Do both of those trump 2nd May 1990 for you?
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Post by toteend3 on Aug 28, 2021 17:42:37 GMT
When a pretty young thing whispers in my ear ‘ would you like ...............’
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Post by alftupper on Aug 29, 2021 8:01:35 GMT
To be fair, the two greatest highs that I`ve had in 40 years of watching the Gas, were the penalty shoot out at Wembley that got us back into the Football League, and Browner`s late late winner that took us up again, twelve months later. And they both happened, relatively recently.
Do both of those trump 2nd May 1990 for you? Yes, definitely. The future looked really bleak when we were relegated from the Football League, and to immediately secure back to back promotions ( both times in the most dramatic of circumstances ) made it all the sweeter. In 1990, we were riding the crest of a wave, and although the two wins over City and Blackpool were wonderful, the fact that both results were expected made them less memorable for me, than the two games I`ve mentioned. Guess, we all see things differently.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 8:54:46 GMT
When I realised that the owners made decisions for their own benefits and not the good of the club.
That's when I realised that there was no hope of the club progressing sustainably and the dream was over.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 29, 2021 9:09:05 GMT
When I realised that the owners made decisions for their own benefits and not the good of the club. That's when I realised that there was no hope of the club progressing sustainably and the dream was over. I can’t imagine how that must have made all concerned, in the brilliant RAFC plan. I knew of the goings on but not any detail. I see that as the beginning of the end, I also now firmly believe th Steve Lansdown was right when he said , in years to come no one will talk of Bristol Rovers. I live on the middle of New Cheltenham and all of the youngsters, who are interested in football are going red, hard to swallow as it used to be a lockout blue area. Now,noteven the Ted’s can be bothere laughing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 9:15:32 GMT
When I realised that the owners made decisions for their own benefits and not the good of the club. That's when I realised that there was no hope of the club progressing sustainably and the dream was over. I can’t imagine how that must have made all concerned, in the brilliant RAFC plan. I knew of the goings on but not any detail. I see that as the beginning of the end, I also now firmly believe th Steve Lansdown was right when he said , in years to come no one will talk of Bristol Rovers. I live on the middle of New Cheltenham and all of the youngsters, who are interested in football are going red, hard to swallow as it used to be a lockout blue area. Now,noteven the Ted’s can be bothere laughing. The Steve Lansdown comment was taken out of context. We were in discussion about the lack of forward thinking in Bristol football and he was citing the new stadium that Hull had built with help from the local council and their telecom proceeds. He told us that he envied the youth development that Rovers had and the loyalty of our fans, something he felt was lacking at City. He said that he was sick of being in the third tier and City's supporters only worrying if Rovers lost, if we had then they didn't mind being where they were. He said that he was going to invest in a new stadium (at that time it was hoped we could look at a joint stadium) and try to invest in the club to develop players and take the club up the leagues. That was when he added the line, "Then hopefully we will stop talking about Rovers."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 9:20:58 GMT
When I realised that the owners made decisions for their own benefits and not the good of the club. That's when I realised that there was no hope of the club progressing sustainably and the dream was over. I can’t imagine how that must have made all concerned, in the brilliant RAFC plan. I knew of the goings on but not any detail. I see that as the beginning of the end, I also now firmly believe th Steve Lansdown was right when he said , in years to come no one will talk of Bristol Rovers. I live on the middle of New Cheltenham and all of the youngsters, who are interested in football are going red, hard to swallow as it used to be a lockout blue area. Now,noteven the Ted’s can be bothere laughing. The younger reds certainly don't concern themselves about us. I was talking to a 24 year old City fan who didn't get the animosity. As he said, I have never seen us play a league game in my lifetime so how can we be rivals? He added, it's like Man Utd fans being concerned how Rochdale get on.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 29, 2021 9:25:51 GMT
I can’t imagine how that must have made all concerned, in the brilliant RAFC plan. I knew of the goings on but not any detail. I see that as the beginning of the end, I also now firmly believe th Steve Lansdown was right when he said , in years to come no one will talk of Bristol Rovers. I live on the middle of New Cheltenham and all of the youngsters, who are interested in football are going red, hard to swallow as it used to be a lockout blue area. Now,noteven the Ted’s can be bothere laughing. The Steve Lansdown comment was taken out of context. We were in discussion about the lack of forward thinking in Bristol football and he was citing the new stadium that Hull had built with help from the local council and their telecom proceeds. He told us that he envied the youth development that Rovers had and the loyalty of our fans, something he felt was lacking at City. He said that he was sick of being in the third tier and City's supporters only worrying if Rovers lost, if we had then they didn't mind being where they were. He said that he was going to invest in a new stadium (at that time it was hoped we could look at a joint stadium) and try to invest in the club to develop players and take the club up the leagues. That was when he added the line, "Then hopefully we will stop talking about Rovers." Thank you for that K. You would, obviously, have been and are more close and privy to the detail. I appreciate the correction but still feel bad that the then guardians of BRFC couldn’t or wouldn’t see further than their nose
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Aug 30, 2021 7:21:11 GMT
Do both of those trump 2nd May 1990 for you? Yes, definitely. The future looked really bleak when we were relegated from the Football League, and to immediately secure back to back promotions ( both times in the most dramatic of circumstances ) made it all the sweeter. In 1990, we were riding the crest of a wave, and although the two wins over City and Blackpool were wonderful, the fact that both results were expected made them less memorable for me, than the two games I`ve mentioned. Guess, we all see things differently.
Never for me. I still see it as a major embarrassment that we are ever in the fourth tier, even today, and that is a result of zero forward planning and short termism at boardroom level for over two decades. It kills me to see our peers from 2000, such as Brentford, Reading, Bournemouth (albeit with laundered Russian money, Cardiff, Swansea, Brighton and yes City smashing it consistently at a higher level that we aren’t even on their radar anymore. 1990, indeed the period 88-93, playing in Bath, training at Fry’s club, getting promoted to the second tier, playing cup games competitively at Anfield, Maine Road, Villa Park, the City Ground, will never ever be beaten. If you don’t move forward you end up going backwards, and we’ve been doing that ever since we bought the Mem from the rugby club. On and off the pitch.
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Post by The Concept on Aug 30, 2021 7:50:32 GMT
Do both of those trump 2nd May 1990 for you? Yes, definitely. The future looked really bleak when we were relegated from the Football League, and to immediately secure back to back promotions ( both times in the most dramatic of circumstances ) made it all the sweeter. In 1990, we were riding the crest of a wave, and although the two wins over City and Blackpool were wonderful, the fact that both results were expected made them less memorable for me, than the two games I`ve mentioned. Guess, we all see things differently.
That's a fair explanation. Thanks for replying. My 'highs' in the past 40 years would be in a different order: 1/ 1990. - A team to be proud of. Brought together at little expense. No real expectations. Progressively improved over previous years. The never-say-die attitude and able to come back from behind - those string of 2-1 wins. The first ever appearance at Wembley. The 3-0 win to clinch promotion on a memorable night in Twerton. Promotion back to the 2nd Tier. And Champions at that. 2/ 2016. - The fact it was back-to-back. The momentum building. That last day of the season: the atmosphere; the anxiety; the wave after wave of attacks; the near misses; that goal with almost the last touch; the eruption from the crowd; the waiting for other results; the celebrations on the pitch and street party afterwards. Also trumps 2007 for me being an automatic promotion. I don't think I'll ever experience a day like that again. 3/ 2007. - The run in was fantastic. Just getting to the play-offs by the skin of our teeth anyway. Bossing the semi-final legs against Lincoln. The final: the Rovers support; the coming back from behind; the sheer quality of our goals; the drama of the last minute goal that clinched it. 4/ 2015. - Yes, great to get promoted at the first attempt and bounce straight back up, but I never really got a 'high' from it. To me we should never have been there; we were 3 tiers below where we were when I started watching; promotion was just something that had to happen. We got through the play-offs rather than automatic. I didn't really enjoy the final. It was the most stressful I've ever been at a football match. I was absolutely shattered after the game - on the over-ground train back to Uxbridge, and car home west. The feeling was just relief, rather than a high.
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