Bridgeman
Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 17, 2014 22:03:11 GMT
But maybe some can only take so much. Perhaps that underlying destablisation and the continuous bitter & twisted ranting from the disenchanted few which never ceased helped to lead to the unfortunate position of one man taking hold of 51% of the shares. Of course it’s not the sole reason, but maybe it is part of an accumulative picture. You got to be so careful of what you wish for, because you might get something worse! 8 managers, 4 awful seasons, 2 relegation's, non-league football and the catastrophe of being in the weakest position ever imagined to move into a new stadium (are we there yet?). And here we are today! Still waiting for your white knight to ride in. Go Oldie! This is what I mean by quality brainstorming. We need to learn from what happened in the past. The 2006 attempt to bring about change was not successful because the incumbents did not want it and they were able to come up with an investor of their own in NH to ensure the show carried on as before. But equally importantly the mass of fans were not aware of what was happening let alone behind it and so when the news broke it came as a shock to most of us. I remember being at Rochdale when suddenly Directors appeared in the away stand chatting to fans and giving their side of the story. I don't think it was an attempted coup because it wasn't executed like a coup and it seems to me it was a genuine, and possibly naive, attempt to modernise Rovers and make the club more inclusive. Now the situation is different and the above post appears to confirm that the accumulation of a majority shareholding by NH was not intended to happen and neither was the total reliance on his money. NH has been thrust into the role and the result has been a disaster both for him and for the club. But what next ? If the club are waiting for a white knight to ride in I think they really mean they are waiting for a donor to ride in and I don't think that is going to happen. If the directors want a way out are they trying to find one ? Will they talk seriously to serious people, sign confidentiality agreements and release full information on the club, the Sainsburys sale and the UWE Stadium project ? My idea of trying to replicate the Swansea City model is an attempt to prevent a nasty meltdown situation where everyone gets hurt. We owe it to ourselves to make sure that if a rescue is needed it is carried out by a Blue & White Knight. The most sensible post I've read on here all day.......
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Richard Walker
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 18, 2014 5:32:57 GMT
Swiss I think, sadly, the moment has come and gone. Love to be proved wrong... And if so, wrong, glad to offer whatever I am able to. Yes, the moment has come and gone, but you have never been able to let it go. A failed boardroom coup (which was unnecessary at the time), destabilisation of the BOD, axes to grind, bruised egos, temporally swept away by promotion with two glorious cup finals at national stadiums and a great run in the FA Cup run the following season. But maybe some can only take so much. Perhaps that underlying destablisation and the continuous bitter & twisted ranting from the disenchanted few which never ceased helped to lead to the unfortunate position of one man taking hold of 51% of the shares. Of course it’s not the sole reason, but maybe it is part of an accumulative picture. You got to be so careful of what you wish for, because you might get something worse! 8 managers, 4 awful seasons, 2 relegation's, non-league football and the catastrophe of being in the weakest position ever imagined to move into a new stadium (are we there yet?). And here we are today! Still waiting for your white knight to ride in. Go Oldie! I thought NH said it was Lennies fault. Biggest financial disaster at the club and all that
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 7:38:32 GMT
No no no Dont allow Mr Seaton to rewrite history. The path to an attempt to run a sustainable club was started long before the events of 2006. What is not widely known is that the BoD under the late Dennis Dunford with the full support of Geoff (2001-2) actively encouraged fan involvement and there was none of the animosity that is apparent now. There were numerous meetings which involved a company formed by concerned fans, Premier Blue Ltd, featuring myself, Roger Cooper, Hanif Rahman and the late Bob Gray. Another group, who we were friends with formed the Gas Trust. A lot of effort went into both, including numerous meetings at Birbeck University which was the then headquarters of Supporters Direct, sponsored by the government. The Supporters Club joined in the debate and meetings, encouraged by Geoff, and rightly so. The problem was that the SC were recalcitrant, it was obvious they felt their cozy patch was threatened. The other issue was that they were as daft as brushes, nice people but daft. I am not going to detail what happened but we failed, and some of us, mistakenly as it happened, drifted into developing and running the share scheme, using the financial targets set out by Premier Blue and accepted by the BoD. The scheme got off to a flyer and we achieved the aim of getting fans on the BoD quite quickly. Geoff, to his credit, split the share capital of the company that owned Brfc and ring fenced 28% of the shares in advance of the scheme achieving its financial targets. (Re Egm resolutions if you wonder why 28% is important) At this point we realised that the SC needed reforming and a group formed to achieve that goal. I hope Eclectic Blue will not be annoyed if I say he was integral to that group. Its now that the old guard at the SC became agitated, Paul Seaton was a member of that old guard, daft as a brush, commercially clueless and utterly resistant to change. Come May 2004 and the ill fated election, formally, of the fans directors. The modernising group put forward Roger Cooper and Kim Stuckey. Paul Seaton chose to stand, and the SC committee put forward the late Jane Browne, nice lady, but. The absolute chancer, Ken Masters, appeared out of nowhere, a person who contributed, at that point, not one penny to the scheme that funded these positions and he and Mr Seaton split the vote in a gerry mandered election. We got Kim on by one vote, Roger lost to Jane by a small margin. That was the end of effective fan involvement despite Kims best efforts. The SC got what they wanted despite the later efforts of the member on here, Bamber, and John Maltwhisky. What happened in 2006 I feel evolved from this history and I have no idea why Geoff changed his mind and put his weight behind a moribund SC. By the way, back in 2001/2 Geoff invited both Roger and I onto the BoD fir £72,000 investment, at the same time as Kevin Spencer, who I met for the first time at that point. Paul Seaton is part of the problem, and the SC has been instrumental in holding back proper fan involvement in achieving sustainability at Brfc. The proposals put forward by Mike, Colin, Kevin and Kim in 2006 was not an attempt to remove anybody and cries of a Coup d'Etat are just plain stupid. It was a proposal for sustainability which, I understand, Mike has put into good practice at a football club one division below our current status. Good luck to anyone who feels they can effect change in dramatically worse circumstances.
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Post by dinsdale on Aug 18, 2014 7:57:05 GMT
They would be refering to Paul Seaton (if that is who the nurse is) who has worked in 199 for years. Known to many as Swampy This cretin is a supporters club employee ? And he acts like that ? Glad i cancelled my membership.
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Post by dinsdale on Aug 18, 2014 8:01:23 GMT
BRSC are massively culpable for our demise right up there with the board imo.
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Post by strung out on Aug 18, 2014 16:03:06 GMT
No word from these guys for ages, have they packed it in ? Important to know right now. Don't forget, BRISA is the sum of its members including you. I don't know what's happened to Ted Strung Out after the initial blaze of enthusiasm but Richard and Tom have basically been doing everything themselves. Personally, I think it's too much for two people to do and if no one else steps forward, BRISA will go the same way as every other independent group in the last 12 years or so. Getting seriously involved will be a huge drain on your time and emotions and there will be a lot of obstacles in your way which will obviously include apathy and a significant body of the fan base establishment which will regard you as trouble-makers. If the fans don't want an independent supporters group, there won't be one; simples. Hi Rick, just to answer your question about me, without going into too many details I've had some bad news about the health of a very close family member. I did a lot of the early work in setting up the website and writing various documents, but I've had to personally take a step back to look after more important things. Hope to get back involved at some point, but without knowing what the long term future holds, I couldn't commit such a large amount of my time indefinitely. I've not been able to attend a match yet this season (and may not for a while) and barely been posting on here. I'm massively grateful to Tom and Richard for stepping up and doing a lot of things when things got tough for me, but it would be good if a few more people got involved too to take the pressure off.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 18, 2014 16:31:01 GMT
No no no Dont allow Mr Seaton to rewrite history. The path to an attempt to run a sustainable club was started long before the events of 2006. What is not widely known is that the BoD under the late Dennis Dunford with the full support of Geoff (2001-2) actively encouraged fan involvement and there was none of the animosity that is apparent now. There were numerous meetings which involved a company formed by concerned fans, Premier Blue Ltd, featuring myself, Roger Cooper, Hanif Rahman and the late Bob Gray. Another group, who we were friends with formed the Gas Trust. A lot of effort went into both, including numerous meetings at Birbeck University which was the then headquarters of Supporters Direct, sponsored by the government. The Supporters Club joined in the debate and meetings, encouraged by Geoff, and rightly so. The problem was that the SC were recalcitrant, it was obvious they felt their cozy patch was threatened. The other issue was that they were as daft as brushes, nice people but daft. I am not going to detail what happened but we failed, and some of us, mistakenly as it happened, drifted into developing and running the share scheme, using the financial targets set out by Premier Blue and accepted by the BoD. The scheme got off to a flyer and we achieved the aim of getting fans on the BoD quite quickly. Geoff, to his credit, split the share capital of the company that owned Brfc and ring fenced 28% of the shares in advance of the scheme achieving its financial targets. (Re Egm resolutions if you wonder why 28% is important) At this point we realised that the SC needed reforming and a group formed to achieve that goal. I hope Eclectic Blue will not be annoyed if I say he was integral to that group. Its now that the old guard at the SC became agitated, Paul Seaton was a member of that old guard, daft as a brush, commercially clueless and utterly resistant to change. Come May 2004 and the ill fated election, formally, of the fans directors. The modernising group put forward Roger Cooper and Kim Stuckey. Paul Seaton chose to stand, and the SC committee put forward the late Jane Browne, nice lady, but. The absolute chancer, Ken Masters, appeared out of nowhere, a person who contributed, at that point, not one penny to the scheme that funded these positions and he and Mr Seaton split the vote in a gerry mandered election. We got Kim on by one vote, Roger lost to Jane by a small margin. That was the end of effective fan involvement despite Kims best efforts. The SC got what they wanted despite the later efforts of the member on here, Bamber, and John Maltwhisky. What happened in 2006 I feel evolved from this history and I have no idea why Geoff changed his mind and put his weight behind a moribund SC. By the way, back in 2001/2 Geoff invited both Roger and I onto the BoD fir £72,000 investment, at the same time as Kevin Spencer, who I met for the first time at that point. Paul Seaton is part of the problem, and the SC has been instrumental in holding back proper fan involvement in achieving sustainability at Brfc. The proposals put forward by Mike, Colin, Kevin and Kim in 2006 was not an attempt to remove anybody and cries of a Coup d'Etat are just plain stupid. It was a proposal for sustainability which, I understand, Mike has put into good practice at a football club one division below our current status. Good luck to anyone who feels they can effect change in dramatically worse circumstances. Thankyou Oldie /Les, It is very good of you to allow those of is not knowing these things, the background to it all. As I see it, & has been backed up by many, it was NEVER a coup or attempt to get rid of anyone but a proper business plan to have the club be run well, self sufficient and not to be allowed to run into the debts we find ourselves in now. It seems the only ones threatened were those directors who are so fragile that instead of thinking of the club put their own egos before it. The rest, as they say, is history and we are now in the hell on the conference. Shame on those who put pay to it. They will get their just desserts, no one gets away with anything in the end.
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Post by Angas on Aug 18, 2014 17:50:19 GMT
In that case he needs to grow a pair of bollox and get over it. If his concern over the well being of Bristol Rovers is genuine, he would do this. Swampy, You are one of life's losers. Now just return to your tree house until we meet again when I shall invite you to repeat your comments to my face. I remember the first time I saw Swampy. I'm still getting over the fact that he wasn't all black and slimy, straight from the bog. Living in a tree house probably explains that one As for his posts here, he knows full well exactly what you tried to do way back in terms of getting the SC to accept the need for change and evolution. He'll also know (and no doubt was actively involved in) the resistance that was thrown up. He'll also know all that the large group of people have done since then and the hours and effort that were put in. And again, he'll know what a waste of time and effort that was too. I hope he's happy to see BRFC in its current state. Keep posting your thoughts Swampy - they're so constructive!
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Post by gassedup on Aug 18, 2014 17:55:58 GMT
No no no Dont allow Mr Seaton to rewrite history. The path to an attempt to run a sustainable club was started long before the events of 2006. What is not widely known is that the BoD under the late Dennis Dunford with the full support of Geoff (2001-2) actively encouraged fan involvement and there was none of the animosity that is apparent now. There were numerous meetings which involved a company formed by concerned fans, Premier Blue Ltd, featuring myself, Roger Cooper, Hanif Rahman and the late Bob Gray. Another group, who we were friends with formed the Gas Trust. A lot of effort went into both, including numerous meetings at Birbeck University which was the then headquarters of Supporters Direct, sponsored by the government. The Supporters Club joined in the debate and meetings, encouraged by Geoff, and rightly so. The problem was that the SC were recalcitrant, it was obvious they felt their cozy patch was threatened. The other issue was that they were as daft as brushes, nice people but daft. I am not going to detail what happened but we failed, and some of us, mistakenly as it happened, drifted into developing and running the share scheme, using the financial targets set out by Premier Blue and accepted by the BoD. The scheme got off to a flyer and we achieved the aim of getting fans on the BoD quite quickly. Geoff, to his credit, split the share capital of the company that owned Brfc and ring fenced 28% of the shares in advance of the scheme achieving its financial targets. (Re Egm resolutions if you wonder why 28% is important) At this point we realised that the SC needed reforming and a group formed to achieve that goal. I hope Eclectic Blue will not be annoyed if I say he was integral to that group. Its now that the old guard at the SC became agitated, Paul Seaton was a member of that old guard, daft as a brush, commercially clueless and utterly resistant to change. Come May 2004 and the ill fated election, formally, of the fans directors. The modernising group put forward Roger Cooper and Kim Stuckey. Paul Seaton chose to stand, and the SC committee put forward the late Jane Browne, nice lady, but. The absolute chancer, Ken Masters, appeared out of nowhere, a person who contributed, at that point, not one penny to the scheme that funded these positions and he and Mr Seaton split the vote in a gerry mandered election. We got Kim on by one vote, Roger lost to Jane by a small margin. That was the end of effective fan involvement despite Kims best efforts. The SC got what they wanted despite the later efforts of the member on here, Bamber, and John Maltwhisky. What happened in 2006 I feel evolved from this history and I have no idea why Geoff changed his mind and put his weight behind a moribund SC. By the way, back in 2001/2 Geoff invited both Roger and I onto the BoD fir £72,000 investment, at the same time as Kevin Spencer, who I met for the first time at that point. Paul Seaton is part of the problem, and the SC has been instrumental in holding back proper fan involvement in achieving sustainability at Brfc. The proposals put forward by Mike, Colin, Kevin and Kim in 2006 was not an attempt to remove anybody and cries of a Coup d'Etat are just plain stupid. It was a proposal for sustainability which, I understand, Mike has put into good practice at a football club one division below our current status. Good luck to anyone who feels they can effect change in dramatically worse circumstances. Thankyou Oldie /Les, It is very good of you to allow those of is not knowing these things, the background to it all. As I see it, & has been backed up by many, it was NEVER a coup or attempt to get rid of anyone but a proper business plan to have the club be run well, self sufficient and not to be allowed to run into the debts we find ourselves in now. It seems the only ones threatened were those directors who are so fragile that instead of thinking of the club put their own egos before it. The rest, as they say, is history and we are now in the hell on the conference. Shame on those who put pay to it. They will get their just desserts, no one gets away with anything in the end. I know very little but was part of the process a new Chairman?
Was the main issue that it didn't even reach the Boardroom discussion stage despite it being something which emanated from the Boardroom?
I too very much appreciate background to an era which for whatever reason passed me by.
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Post by Bath Gas on Aug 19, 2014 0:07:21 GMT
Very interesting post Oldie - thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 1:03:13 GMT
Swiss I think, sadly, the moment has come and gone. Love to be proved wrong... And if so, wrong, glad to offer whatever I am able to. Yes, the moment has come and gone, but you have never been able to let it go. A failed boardroom coup (which was unnecessary at the time), destabilisation of the BOD, axes to grind, bruised egos, temporally swept away by promotion with two glorious cup finals at national stadiums and a great run in the FA Cup run the following season. But maybe some can only take so much. Perhaps that underlying destablisation and the continuous bitter & twisted ranting from the disenchanted few which never ceased helped to lead to the unfortunate position of one man taking hold of 51% of the shares. Of course it’s not the sole reason, but maybe it is part of an accumulative picture. You got to be so careful of what you wish for, because you might get something worse! 8 managers, 4 awful seasons, 2 relegation's, non-league football and the catastrophe of being in the weakest position ever imagined to move into a new stadium (are we there yet?). And here we are today! Still waiting for your white knight to ride in. Go Oldie! its been said on here you ponce off rovers living rent free above 199, is that right ?
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 19, 2014 11:54:11 GMT
No no no Dont allow Mr Seaton to rewrite history. The path to an attempt to run a sustainable club was started long before the events of 2006. What is not widely known is that the BoD under the late Dennis Dunford with the full support of Geoff (2001-2) actively encouraged fan involvement and there was none of the animosity that is apparent now. There were numerous meetings which involved a company formed by concerned fans, Premier Blue Ltd, featuring myself, Roger Cooper, Hanif Rahman and the late Bob Gray. Another group, who we were friends with formed the Gas Trust. A lot of effort went into both, including numerous meetings at Birbeck University which was the then headquarters of Supporters Direct, sponsored by the government. The Supporters Club joined in the debate and meetings, encouraged by Geoff, and rightly so. The problem was that the SC were recalcitrant, it was obvious they felt their cozy patch was threatened. The other issue was that they were as daft as brushes, nice people but daft. I am not going to detail what happened but we failed, and some of us, mistakenly as it happened, drifted into developing and running the share scheme, using the financial targets set out by Premier Blue and accepted by the BoD. The scheme got off to a flyer and we achieved the aim of getting fans on the BoD quite quickly. Geoff, to his credit, split the share capital of the company that owned Brfc and ring fenced 28% of the shares in advance of the scheme achieving its financial targets. (Re Egm resolutions if you wonder why 28% is important) At this point we realised that the SC needed reforming and a group formed to achieve that goal. I hope Eclectic Blue will not be annoyed if I say he was integral to that group. Its now that the old guard at the SC became agitated, Paul Seaton was a member of that old guard, daft as a brush, commercially clueless and utterly resistant to change. Come May 2004 and the ill fated election, formally, of the fans directors. The modernising group put forward Roger Cooper and Kim Stuckey. Paul Seaton chose to stand, and the SC committee put forward the late Jane Browne, nice lady, but. The absolute chancer, Ken Masters, appeared out of nowhere, a person who contributed, at that point, not one penny to the scheme that funded these positions and he and Mr Seaton split the vote in a gerry mandered election. We got Kim on by one vote, Roger lost to Jane by a small margin. That was the end of effective fan involvement despite Kims best efforts. The SC got what they wanted despite the later efforts of the member on here, Bamber, and John Maltwhisky. What happened in 2006 I feel evolved from this history and I have no idea why Geoff changed his mind and put his weight behind a moribund SC. By the way, back in 2001/2 Geoff invited both Roger and I onto the BoD fir £72,000 investment, at the same time as Kevin Spencer, who I met for the first time at that point. Paul Seaton is part of the problem, and the SC has been instrumental in holding back proper fan involvement in achieving sustainability at Brfc. The proposals put forward by Mike, Colin, Kevin and Kim in 2006 was not an attempt to remove anybody and cries of a Coup d'Etat are just plain stupid. It was a proposal for sustainability which, I understand, Mike has put into good practice at a football club one division below our current status. Good luck to anyone who feels they can effect change in dramatically worse circumstances. I do love this story 'we wanted to get our blokes elected & then we found out other people who didn't agree with us wanted to get their blokes elected, and they'd gone & got people to vote for their blokes' devious b'stards. Hope the 'no' campaign is taking notes
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 12:31:20 GMT
No no no Dont allow Mr Seaton to rewrite history. The path to an attempt to run a sustainable club was started long before the events of 2006. What is not widely known is that the BoD under the late Dennis Dunford with the full support of Geoff (2001-2) actively encouraged fan involvement and there was none of the animosity that is apparent now. There were numerous meetings which involved a company formed by concerned fans, Premier Blue Ltd, featuring myself, Roger Cooper, Hanif Rahman and the late Bob Gray. Another group, who we were friends with formed the Gas Trust. A lot of effort went into both, including numerous meetings at Birbeck University which was the then headquarters of Supporters Direct, sponsored by the government. The Supporters Club joined in the debate and meetings, encouraged by Geoff, and rightly so. The problem was that the SC were recalcitrant, it was obvious they felt their cozy patch was threatened. The other issue was that they were as daft as brushes, nice people but daft. I am not going to detail what happened but we failed, and some of us, mistakenly as it happened, drifted into developing and running the share scheme, using the financial targets set out by Premier Blue and accepted by the BoD. The scheme got off to a flyer and we achieved the aim of getting fans on the BoD quite quickly. Geoff, to his credit, split the share capital of the company that owned Brfc and ring fenced 28% of the shares in advance of the scheme achieving its financial targets. (Re Egm resolutions if you wonder why 28% is important) At this point we realised that the SC needed reforming and a group formed to achieve that goal. I hope Eclectic Blue will not be annoyed if I say he was integral to that group. Its now that the old guard at the SC became agitated, Paul Seaton was a member of that old guard, daft as a brush, commercially clueless and utterly resistant to change. Come May 2004 and the ill fated election, formally, of the fans directors. The modernising group put forward Roger Cooper and Kim Stuckey. Paul Seaton chose to stand, and the SC committee put forward the late Jane Browne, nice lady, but. The absolute chancer, Ken Masters, appeared out of nowhere, a person who contributed, at that point, not one penny to the scheme that funded these positions and he and Mr Seaton split the vote in a gerry mandered election. We got Kim on by one vote, Roger lost to Jane by a small margin. That was the end of effective fan involvement despite Kims best efforts. The SC got what they wanted despite the later efforts of the member on here, Bamber, and John Maltwhisky. What happened in 2006 I feel evolved from this history and I have no idea why Geoff changed his mind and put his weight behind a moribund SC. By the way, back in 2001/2 Geoff invited both Roger and I onto the BoD fir £72,000 investment, at the same time as Kevin Spencer, who I met for the first time at that point. Paul Seaton is part of the problem, and the SC has been instrumental in holding back proper fan involvement in achieving sustainability at Brfc. The proposals put forward by Mike, Colin, Kevin and Kim in 2006 was not an attempt to remove anybody and cries of a Coup d'Etat are just plain stupid. It was a proposal for sustainability which, I understand, Mike has put into good practice at a football club one division below our current status. Good luck to anyone who feels they can effect change in dramatically worse circumstances. I do love this story 'we wanted to get our blokes elected & then we found out other people who didn't agree with us wanted to get their blokes elected, and they'd gone & got people to vote for their blokes' devious b******s. Hope the 'no' campaign is taking notes Its called Gerry mandering. But let it go, its past
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 19, 2014 13:11:05 GMT
Oddly if you were actually following the thread it's not me bringing it up. Nothing for me to let go. Still I do love the story
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 13:14:43 GMT
Oddaylight if you were actually following the thread it's not me bringing it up. Nothing for me to let go. Still I do love the story No idea what you are on about, Enjoy the rest of your day
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Post by richardhannay on Aug 19, 2014 13:29:40 GMT
Whatever happened in the past is in the past,what are we going to do now ? Rod.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 14:58:06 GMT
Whatever happened in the past is in the past,what are we going to do now ? Rod. What indeed Rod
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Aug 19, 2014 19:36:34 GMT
Yes, the moment has come and gone, but you have never been able to let it go. A failed boardroom coup (which was unnecessary at the time), destabilisation of the BOD, axes to grind, bruised egos, temporally swept away by promotion with two glorious cup finals at national stadiums and a great run in the FA Cup run the following season. But maybe some can only take so much. Perhaps that underlying destablisation and the continuous bitter & twisted ranting from the disenchanted few which never ceased helped to lead to the unfortunate position of one man taking hold of 51% of the shares. Of course it’s not the sole reason, but maybe it is part of an accumulative picture. You got to be so careful of what you wish for, because you might get something worse! 8 managers, 4 awful seasons, 2 relegation's, non-league football and the catastrophe of being in the weakest position ever imagined to move into a new stadium (are we there yet?). And here we are today! Still waiting for your white knight to ride in. Go Oldie! its been said on here you ponce off rovers living rent free above 199, is that right ? I take it that you are referring to the swampy character. What do you think? Or are you just emptying your bladder? Would it not be scandalous cronyism if a supporter’s club employee was allowed to live above 199 rent free? Surely rovers02 (Kim Stuckey) could throw some light on this before we assassinate this character completely, as he was supporters club director at the time when this alleged freeloader was living there. However, I suspect some on here would not like the truth to get in the way of a good urban myth.
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Aug 19, 2014 20:35:54 GMT
I do love this story 'we wanted to get our blokes elected & then we found out other people who didn't agree with us wanted to get their blokes elected, and they'd gone & got people to vote for their blokes' devious b******s. Hope the 'no' campaign is taking notes Its called Gerry mandering. But let it go, its past
no,no,no Don't let Les Fry rewrite history. It's called the majority of supporters not agreeing with you (How dare they!). If it were gerrymandering, you are suggesting that the vote was manipulated in some way or another. Please explain. I did read somewhere there were buses brought in full of people paid to vote a certain way! Is this not more urban myth? Don't let the truth get in the way of a good old story now.
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Post by vaughan on Aug 19, 2014 23:41:34 GMT
I actually think that a 2001 Premier Blue type proposition would resonate more today and would be hard for the Board to resist as they have now said (Nick Higgs - today!) that they are looking for both investment and new skills - which I assume to be business-related.
How could they (including SC) resist such an offer if made public?
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