GasPanic!
Rickie Lambert
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Post by GasPanic! on Aug 17, 2014 14:03:15 GMT
I'll definitely try and come to any future meetings.
Atm I don't think I'll have much input, but I'd like to listen to the BRISA speak at a meeting so I can truly make my mind up about them.
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Post by Eclectic Blue on Aug 17, 2014 14:08:58 GMT
Given many hours of his time to being involved in the running of the Supporters Club? Only to be shafted, along with several others. In that case he needs to grow a pair of bollox and get over it. If his concern over the well being of Bristol Rovers is genuine, he would do this. Swampy, You are one of life's losers. Now just return to your tree house until we meet again when I shall invite you to repeat your comments to my face. |
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gassedup
Frankie Prince
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Post by gassedup on Aug 17, 2014 14:28:19 GMT
Hi Dinsdale, If you felt so strongly (and you obviously do) that something should have been organised earlier then why didn't YOU organise something. Despite living in South Wales I've attended every Welly meeting, EGM, Q&A session plus the first BRISA meeting held at the Mem. It's very easy to be critical of people who at least try and do something. It's time consuming, it affects family life, it requires committment that's why sometimes things take longer to develop than people would like but at least the Welly group and those trying to organise BRISA have tried. Why not contact the organisors of BRISA, I'm sure they would welcome someone like yourself with the enthusiam you display ? UTG ! When you criticise something the response is always why didnt you do it :-). I dont live in Bristol and my wife was very ill from March to Late June. I wasnt in a position to. I have attended the q and a and wellie meeting and spoke on the phone with gassed up but was on holiday for your meeting. I have tried to offer suggestions not just be critical. When you guys got started you were having meetings at 12 hours notice. It was never going to be open to many people. Its just a hindsight thing not intending to offnd anyone. Brisa got overtaken by the wellie lot who imo were a bit wet and close to the club and didnt get going in time for the anger to have not worn off. Im happy to attend and see what i can do but im not going to offer to do anything more then that untill i meet the people involved and see what its all about. The problem is it is all about opinions. To be strong and united there will always have to be compromise.
Any group only stands a chance of being listened to when it has a reasonable nucleus.
I'm not here for disagreement. I want to see unity between (all) supporters and the Club. If we have that unity we then have to bring the Club on board with our objectives.
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Aug 17, 2014 14:37:07 GMT
In that case he needs to grow a pair of bollox and get over it. If his concern over the well being of Bristol Rovers is genuine, he would do this. Swampy, You are one of life's losers. Now just return to your tree house until we meet again when I shall invite you to repeat your comments to my face. That was a disappointing reply. Almost Juvenile. So, if I am to believe your one of life's winners - why are you not leading by example? Why not actually do the stuff that you want others to do? Opinions are fine, but they are just hot air if you don't act upon them. |
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Post by Eclectic Blue on Aug 17, 2014 15:04:02 GMT
Swampy, You are one of life's losers. Now just return to your tree house until we meet again when I shall invite you to repeat your comments to my face. That was a disappointing reply. Almost Juvenile. So, if I am to believe your one of life's winners - why are you not leading by example? Why not actually do the stuff that you want others to do? Opinions are fine, but they are just hot air if you don't act upon them. Thank you for your views, Swampy. I am not going to dignify your deranged ramblings with further responses. I'm more interested in the opinions of those who want to improve the club. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 16:45:58 GMT
That was a disappointing reply. Almost Juvenile. So, if I am to believe your one of life's winners - why are you not leading by example? Why not actually do the stuff that you want others to do? Opinions are fine, but they are just hot air if you don't act upon them. Thank you for your views, Swampy. I am not going to dignify your deranged ramblings with further responses. I'm more interested in the opinions of those who want to improve the club. Rick Dont bite mate We all know the intellectual capacity of this guy. Don't dignify by even responding |
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Aug 17, 2014 16:51:25 GMT
That was a disappointing reply. Almost Juvenile. So, if I am to believe your one of life's winners - why are you not leading by example? Why not actually do the stuff that you want others to do? Opinions are fine, but they are just hot air if you don't act upon them. Thank you for your views, Swampy. I am not going to dignify your deranged ramblings with further responses. I'm more interested in the opinions of those who want to improve the club. Leaving aside your Holier-than-thou nonsense – I’m not sure if you understand what ‘to dignify’ is? You continue to write meek and mild programme articles for the Football Club on the one hand, but protest vociferously over the banning of your mate on the other. I can’t understand why you have not resigned in protest from writing for the Official matchday programme years ago? Surely that would be a dignified thing to do? "Man up!"  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 17:10:54 GMT
Thank you for your views, Swampy. I am not going to dignify your deranged ramblings with further responses. I'm more interested in the opinions of those who want to improve the club. Leaving aside your Holier-than-thou nonsense – I’m not sure if you understand what ‘to dignify’ is? You continue to write meek and mild programme articles for the Football Club on the one hand, but protest vociferously over the banning of your mate on the other. I can’t understand why you have not resigned in protest from writing for the Official matchday programme years ago? Surely that would be a dignified thing to do? "Man up!" Go girl...!! |
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Post by swissgas on Aug 17, 2014 17:17:05 GMT
I find myself in the position of reading a hostile exchange between posters like EB, Oldie and last week Northville, none of whom I've ever met but who I believe share a similar Rovers vision to mine, and PS whom I have met and found helpful in the club shop, talked to on the phone and (I think) seen on TV handing over the petition at Downing Street.
My take on this is that PS has pinned his colours to the NH mast and been let down and is frustrated about it. I don't blame him because many of us felt that NH was going to bring change for the better at Rovers so we have all been let down really. As I've said on the other thread it's unlikely that protest will bring about change because the board will only retreat further into their shell and even more division will be fostered. Neither will falling out with each other do any good because that only means the talent which could be put to good use for the benefit of the club is wasted.
As I've posted on the "sale" thread and as mclord1982 posted on the "don't go" thread, the thing which will bring unity to the fans is a viable alternative which we can all rally around. My idea for an alternative ownership group may not be favoured by all fans but whatever the alternative is I believe we need BRISA, EB, Oldie, Northville and PS to be a part of it.
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Aug 17, 2014 17:20:53 GMT
Leaving aside your Holier-than-thou nonsense – I’m not sure if you understand what ‘to dignify’ is? You continue to write meek and mild programme articles for the Football Club on the one hand, but protest vociferously over the banning of your mate on the other. I can’t understand why you have not resigned in protest from writing for the Official matchday programme years ago? Surely that would be a dignified thing to do? "Man up!" Go girl...!! Hilarious! Thanks for the dignity in responding!  |
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dinsdale
Andy Rammell
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Post by dinsdale on Aug 17, 2014 18:23:25 GMT
I find myself in the position of reading a hostile exchange between posters like EB, Oldie and last week Northville, none of whom I've ever met but who I believe share a similar Rovers vision to mine, and PS whom I have met and found helpful in the club shop, talked to on the phone and (I think) seen on TV handing over the petition at Downing Street. My take on this is that PS has pinned his colours to the NH mast and been let down and is frustrated about it. I don't blame him because many of us felt that NH was going to bring change for the better at Rovers so we have all been let down really. As I've said on the other thread it's unlikely that protest will bring about change because the board will only retreat further into their shell and even more division will be fostered. Neither will falling out with each other do any good because that only means the talent which could be put to good use for the benefit of the club is wasted. As I've posted on the "sale" thread and as mclord1982 posted on the "don't go" thread, the thing which will bring unity to the fans is a viable alternative which we can all rally around. My idea for an alternative ownership group may not be favoured by all fans but whatever the alternative is I believe we need BRISA, EB, Oldie, Northville and PS to be a part of it. Whose PS ? |
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Richard Walker
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Post by Peter Parker on Aug 17, 2014 18:29:55 GMT
They would be refering to Paul Seaton (if that is who the nurse is) who has worked in 199 for years. Known to many as Swampy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 18:30:10 GMT
Hilarious! Thanks for the dignity in responding! I have no problem, rather good guys like Rick not brought down to your, historical, low position. So, go Girl. Swiss, this guy is part of the problem. |
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Post by swissgas on Aug 17, 2014 18:53:15 GMT
Hilarious! Thanks for the dignity in responding! I have no problem, rather good guys like Rick not brought down to your, historical, low position. So, go Girl. Swiss, this guy is part of the problem. I understand Oldie, and I accept I'm not fully aware of all the politics involved, but in a way we are all part of the problem. Padstow will jump on me and say I'm mouthing off from 4000 miles away but I think we need some quality brainstorming. You have been involved in this sort of thing before. Is it worth trying to replicate the Swansea City ownership model and confronting the board with an alternative ? If they turned it down and didn't come up with anything better would they have anywhere left to run ? |
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lockleazer
Tarki Micalleff
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Post by lockleazer on Aug 17, 2014 18:55:25 GMT
Just to add ... if anyone would like a batch of flyers promoting BRISA to hand out in your local/ pre match pubs / at home or away games PLEASE pm me and I'll post them out to you...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 19:07:29 GMT
I have no problem, rather good guys like Rick not brought down to your, historical, low position. So, go Girl. Swiss, this guy is part of the problem. I understand Oldie, and I accept I'm not fully aware of all the politics involved, but in a way we are all part of the problem. Padstow will jump on me and say I'm mouthing off from 4000 miles away but I think we need some quality brainstorming. You have been involved in this sort of thing before. Is it worth trying to replicate the Swansea City ownership model and confronting the board with an alternative ? If they turned it down and didn't come up with anything better would they have anywhere left to run ? Swiss I think, sadly, the moment has come and gone. Love to be proved wrong... And if so, wrong, glad to offer whatever I am able to. |
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Andy Rammell
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Post by dinsdale on Aug 17, 2014 19:12:50 GMT
Just to add ... if anyone would like a batch of flyers promoting BRISA to hand out in your local/ pre match pubs / at home or away games PLEASE pm me and I'll post them out to you... Yes plz , will pm you, will hand them out at work and the next game |
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Post by Nurse Ratched on Aug 17, 2014 20:33:29 GMT
I understand Oldie, and I accept I'm not fully aware of all the politics involved, but in a way we are all part of the problem. Padstow will jump on me and say I'm mouthing off from 4000 miles away but I think we need some quality brainstorming. You have been involved in this sort of thing before. Is it worth trying to replicate the Swansea City ownership model and confronting the board with an alternative ? If they turned it down and didn't come up with anything better would they have anywhere left to run ? Swiss I think, sadly, the moment has come and gone. Love to be proved wrong... And if so, wrong, glad to offer whatever I am able to. Yes, the moment has come and gone, but you have never been able to let it go. A failed boardroom coup (which was unnecessary at the time), destabilisation of the BOD, axes to grind, bruised egos, temporally swept away by promotion with two glorious cup finals at national stadiums and a great run in the FA Cup run the following season. But maybe some can only take so much. Perhaps that underlying destablisation and the continuous bitter & twisted ranting from the disenchanted few which never ceased helped to lead to the unfortunate position of one man taking hold of 51% of the shares. Of course it’s not the sole reason, but maybe it is part of an accumulative picture. You got to be so careful of what you wish for, because you might get something worse! 8 managers, 4 awful seasons, 2 relegation's, non-league football and the catastrophe of being in the weakest position ever imagined to move into a new stadium (are we there yet?). And here we are today! Still waiting for your white knight to ride in. Go Oldie! |
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Post by manchestergas on Aug 17, 2014 20:37:52 GMT
Is that criticism of NH, Nurse? i.e beware what you wish for comment.
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Post by swissgas on Aug 17, 2014 21:35:40 GMT
But maybe some can only take so much. Perhaps that underlying destablisation and the continuous bitter & twisted ranting from the disenchanted few which never ceased helped to lead to the unfortunate position of one man taking hold of 51% of the shares. Of course it’s not the sole reason, but maybe it is part of an accumulative picture. You got to be so careful of what you wish for, because you might get something worse! 8 managers, 4 awful seasons, 2 relegation's, non-league football and the catastrophe of being in the weakest position ever imagined to move into a new stadium (are we there yet?). And here we are today! Still waiting for your white knight to ride in. Go Oldie! This is what I mean by quality brainstorming. We need to learn from what happened in the past. The 2006 attempt to bring about change was not successful because the incumbents did not want it and they were able to come up with an investor of their own in NH to ensure the show carried on as before. But equally importantly the mass of fans were not aware of what was happening let alone behind it and so when the news broke it came as a shock to most of us. I remember being at Rochdale when suddenly Directors appeared in the away stand chatting to fans and giving their side of the story. I don't think it was an attempted coup because it wasn't executed like a coup and it seems to me it was a genuine, and possibly naive, attempt to modernise Rovers and make the club more inclusive. Now the situation is different and the above post appears to confirm that the accumulation of a majority shareholding by NH was not intended to happen and neither was the total reliance on his money. NH has been thrust into the role and the result has been a disaster both for him and for the club. But what next ? If the club are waiting for a white knight to ride in I think they really mean they are waiting for a donor to ride in and I don't think that is going to happen. If the directors want a way out are they trying to find one ? Will they talk seriously to serious people, sign confidentiality agreements and release full information on the club, the Sainsburys sale and the UWE Stadium project ? My idea of trying to replicate the Swansea City model is an attempt to prevent a nasty meltdown situation where everyone gets hurt. We owe it to ourselves to make sure that if a rescue is needed it is carried out by a Blue & White Knight. |
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