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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 17:14:18 GMT
You really are very funny. You must almost have twisted blood you’ve been tying yourself into knots over B*****. Innocent until proven guilty is his status, not what you decide you want it to mean. I honestly don't know why you're pretending not to be able to understand me. I literally just wrote that innocent until proven guilty is his status, before you did. That doesn't mean he didn't do it, any more than anyone else who commits crime without being prosecuted for it. I've just explained all that, and we both know you understand. B***** is legally innocent until proven guilty. That does not mean that he didn't do it, and there's no reason yet to doubt that he did, until the Police and Crown Prosecutor are examined. Get a grip is the best advise I can give you. No it isn't. You just need to read before you reply. That's the best I can give you, dear friend. Oh, and I’ve bought my Mansfield tickets so I can go and support the club on the opening day, and I’ve renewed our ST’s. I expect you disapprove of that as well. Oh yes, a good point well made, were it not for the fact that I have clearly and repeatedly written on here how I support the right of everyone to attend matches still and to support Rovers how they choose. Go on, check. It's alright, try again: I know you can improve on this, old mate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 17:26:15 GMT
Wrong answer Shoves.
You should come out and say clearly that you disapprove of him buying tickets but agree that he's perfectly correct to do it if he thinks that directly funding the employment of someone with B*****'s history, and 2 ongoing court cases, is the best way of supporting the club and sending a message to the people making decisions for the club on our behalf, that they are doing a good job.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jul 29, 2021 17:28:03 GMT
Port Vale owner pledged £20,million this morning to 'Bring our stadium up to scratch'.Assuming we will never get even one stand to replace one of the tents,would it be possible to stick a roof over the Away Terrace at least??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 17:29:57 GMT
Here we go again. Accept the unacceptable or you aren't a real supporter. It's the people who haven't spoken out and who aren't taking a stand against this disgusting appointment that are harming the club. But of course, the bulk of responsibility sits with the owner. I’m not saying anything about accepting the unacceptable. I’ve merely stated that innocent until proven guilty is still the basis of English law. If B***** is found guilty I believe Wael has said he will be dismissed, at least that’s how I read his message. Whats wrong with that? As I have said, get a grip, FFS. Only that's not all you said, is it. You've accused people taking my position of wilfully 'trashing the club'. I hold the position that it's you and people supporting this utterly crazy decision making that are harming Bristol Rovers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 17:32:30 GMT
I think I've outgrown shouting 'scab' from the picket. Happy to make the arguments, but happier for others to go their own way. I do feel very strongly, but I value others doing so too, in whichever way they argue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 17:37:57 GMT
I think I've outgrown shouting 'scab' from the picket. Happy to make the arguments, but happier for others to go their own way. I do feel very strongly, but I value others doing so too, in whichever way they argue. Picket lines that I've seen attempt to prevent people going about their chosen course of action, often with direct violence and intimidation, that's never been suggested, all that's being said is for you to say that you disagree with directly funding B*****'s wages.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jul 29, 2021 17:45:19 GMT
LOL! At what point in the last 20 years was he ever innocent? okay let’s ignore ALL the previous - still Suspension till the courts report is the only sane option in this situation, two very serious violent assault charges concurrently ongoing, one of them the very sensitive wife beating public and media take keen interest in, the other is attacking a rival manager from behind, for a member of staff whose also in your senior leadership team in a community business in the entertainment industry with punters coming through the door. what part of the penny isn’t dropping for you? What are you saying isn’t true or bigged up? Long term Reputational damage to your business? And to the employers personally? Dividing and losing the fan base and losing advertising revenue can be a long term commercial and financial hit? Distraction the team doesn’t need for morale and performances? Suspension till the cases are over, Hill as acting manager is the only sane option to manage and mitigate the situation. And do you know what? You’ve just illustrated my point perfectly. You talk about ignoring all the previous, that’s exactly what the courts are supposed to do, try on the evidence not on previous. You and the rest of the with hunt, ducking stool brigade are making that almost impossible. Do you want the case thrown out because his defence can prove he won’t get a fair trial? As I say, get a grip, FFS. So in your opinion, he shouldn’t be suspended like Giggs until the court decides? In your opinion, no need for suspension?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jul 29, 2021 17:46:22 GMT
What part of Long term Reputational damage to the business, to the employers personally, Dividing and losing the fan base, and losing advertising revenue for a long term commercial and financial hit, as well as Distraction the team doesn’t need for performance don’t you understand? I think you exaggerate. Rovers reputation is imo as it was when JB first signed.The huge majority in football UK won't be shaking their heads thinking,'Rovers reputation is in ruins'.Etc. Have any sponsors quit yet? How seriously divided are Gasheads on JB? I don't know.50 50? How many won't attend because of JB? Wait and see. How are employees effected? Any been laid off yet because of your predicted doom? Have we lost advertising revenue yet? Players will take on board what JB and coaching staff tell them,then go and win football matches,imo. Once/if we are playing good football and challenging in the 4th tier,there will be reasonable le attendance figures at the Mem.A far more interesting and refreshing subject than 'get rid of JB'. Those that can't support Rovers at this time,well I hope you can change your mind. Cov19 threat allowing I'll be back st the Mem. So in your opinion, he shouldn’t be suspended like Giggs until the court decides? In your opinion, no need for suspension?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jul 29, 2021 17:48:39 GMT
What part of Long term Reputational damage to the business, to the employers personally, Dividing and losing the fan base, and losing advertising revenue for a long term commercial and financial hit, as well as Distraction the team doesn’t need for performance don’t you understand? It hasn't been a distraction for the team, they have had two training days and one friendly match with the Assistant Manager at the helm, if they don't have the backbone, as professionals, to cope with that and go about their daily business, then they shouldn't be playing for us. How do you know that the club will lose advertising revenue? Have Bristol City lost commercial revenue since they employed CONVICTED wife abuser Danny Simpson? If B***** is suspended, and Hill takes charge for a few months, what impact do you think that will have on the team, you don’t have a problem that happening have you?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 17:49:06 GMT
Bambi's youth was clearly spent on much more aggressive picket lines than was mine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 18:00:00 GMT
Bambi's youth was clearly spent on much more aggressive picket lines than was mine. Never stood on one, and never will, but have been refused free passage beyond angry, politically motivated people. And the fact that you've used the word 'scab' demonstrates that you appreciate full well the emotion the subject is capable of raising in some. Last I heard there were still families in the Nottingham area struggling with internal disputes as a result of disagreements originating from the miners' strikes of the 1980s.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 18:01:32 GMT
Never stood on one, and never will, but have been refused free passage beyond angry, politically motivated people. Sorry Bambi. It won't happen again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 18:29:48 GMT
Never stood on one, and never will, but have been refused free passage beyond angry, politically motivated people. Sorry Bambi. It won't happen again. The worst picket line I ever saw was one set up by doctors. They had to get pharmacists to read the placards to work out what the protest was all about.
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Post by The Concept on Jul 29, 2021 19:32:25 GMT
Someone has just donated their season ticket money to Refuge.
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Post by Bath Gas on Jul 29, 2021 20:53:36 GMT
It hasn't been a distraction for the team, they have had two training days and one friendly match with the Assistant Manager at the helm, if they don't have the backbone, as professionals, to cope with that and go about their daily business, then they shouldn't be playing for us. How do you know that the club will lose advertising revenue? Have Bristol City lost commercial revenue since they employed CONVICTED wife abuser Danny Simpson? If B***** is suspended, and Hill takes charge for a few months, what impact do you think that will have on the team, you don’t have a problem that happening have you? My preference is for B***** to continue doing the job for which we employed him. His management team all have their own different roles within the set-up, I don't know how much upheaval it would cause to switch people around - sometimes it works for somebody to step up, sometimes it doesn't. I haven't heard enough about Clint Hill to make an informed judgement on his ability as a Manager.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 29, 2021 21:23:23 GMT
A drunken duck is not a pretty sight. au contraire, mon vieux. Au contraire.. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 21:25:09 GMT
Where's it to?
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 29, 2021 21:27:16 GMT
bit outside Ambleside, Lake District. It's a blinder. Gone a bit posh now though, I'm told
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 21:28:19 GMT
Gone a bit posh now though, I'm told 'salright, so have I.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 29, 2021 21:35:42 GMT
Gone a bit posh now though, I'm told 'salright, so have I.
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