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Post by laughinggas on Apr 8, 2021 18:40:16 GMT
Enough on other threads about us, I just hope I have a team to watch in the future, not going to get into the other debates.
This electronic world has passed these snippets of information out there just for comparison. Swindle, discussed elsewhere and seems to be a recurring theme. 1982, temporary manager says it will need four to six windows to build a squad to get into Premier. Fans saying a complete rebuild needed after taking the cheap option in lead coach appointment. And that was with a view to developing players for a profit. No manager in place for next season, will the cash be splashed? Sunderland, will they be challenging 1982 next season with the squeaky on in charge? Main point of note is that when we got promotion to league one, Sunderland were avoiding relegation from the prem. Birmingham, just sold the rest of the ground. The rent will exceed that in less than 12 years. Leeds lost £64 million in their promotion season, just as well they went up.
As said that was just spotted in the last week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 18:58:43 GMT
I was convinced that professional football would hit a financial brick wall a decade ago but it keeps limping on.
As long as there are individuals and institutions willing to finance the great game then just sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Post by lostinspace on Apr 8, 2021 19:07:44 GMT
And Man City recorded a loss of £126 million
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Post by towngas on Apr 9, 2021 6:33:08 GMT
Enough on other threads about us, I just hope I have a team to watch in the future, not going to get into the other debates. This electronic world has passed these snippets of information out there just for comparison. Swindle, discussed elsewhere and seems to be a recurring theme. 1982, temporary manager says it will need four to six windows to build a squad to get into Premier. Fans saying a complete rebuild needed after taking the cheap option in lead coach appointment. And that was with a view to developing players for a profit. No manager in place for next season, will the cash be splashed? Sunderland, will they be challenging 1982 next season with the squeaky on in charge? Main point of note is that when we got promotion to league one, Sunderland were avoiding relegation from the prem. Birmingham, just sold the rest of the ground. The rent will exceed that in less than 12 years. Leeds lost £64 million in their promotion season, just as well they went up. As said that was just spotted in the last week. Running a football club must truly be a nightmare. Seeing the outgoings figure regularly exceeding the income figure must cause an ongoing headache. Im grateful to Wael for shouldering the responsibility for keeping Rovers alive. It If was left to me I’d have no recourse other than to shut the business down.
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Post by absent on Apr 9, 2021 7:06:10 GMT
Enough on other threads about us, I just hope I have a team to watch in the future, not going to get into the other debates. This electronic world has passed these snippets of information out there just for comparison. Swindle, discussed elsewhere and seems to be a recurring theme. 1982, temporary manager says it will need four to six windows to build a squad to get into Premier. Fans saying a complete rebuild needed after taking the cheap option in lead coach appointment. And that was with a view to developing players for a profit. No manager in place for next season, will the cash be splashed? Sunderland, will they be challenging 1982 next season with the squeaky on in charge? Main point of note is that when we got promotion to league one, Sunderland were avoiding relegation from the prem. Birmingham, just sold the rest of the ground. The rent will exceed that in less than 12 years. Leeds lost £64 million in their promotion season, just as well they went up. As said that was just spotted in the last week. Running a football club must truly be a nightmare. Seeing the outgoings figure regularly exceeding the income figure must cause an ongoing headache. Im grateful to Wael for shouldering the responsibility for keeping Rovers alive. It If was left to me I’d have no recourse other than to shut the business down. I'd let someone else have a go before I did that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 9:10:25 GMT
Enough on other threads about us, I just hope I have a team to watch in the future, not going to get into the other debates. This electronic world has passed these snippets of information out there just for comparison. Swindle, discussed elsewhere and seems to be a recurring theme. 1982, temporary manager says it will need four to six windows to build a squad to get into Premier. Fans saying a complete rebuild needed after taking the cheap option in lead coach appointment. And that was with a view to developing players for a profit. No manager in place for next season, will the cash be splashed? Sunderland, will they be challenging 1982 next season with the squeaky on in charge? Main point of note is that when we got promotion to league one, Sunderland were avoiding relegation from the prem. Birmingham, just sold the rest of the ground. The rent will exceed that in less than 12 years. Leeds lost £64 million in their promotion season, just as well they went up. As said that was just spotted in the last week. Running a football club must truly be a nightmare. Seeing the outgoings figure regularly exceeding the income figure must cause an ongoing headache. Im grateful to Wael for shouldering the responsibility for keeping Rovers alive. It If was left to me I’d have no recourse other than to shut the business down. I would like to think that I wouldn't have lost the thick end of £20m, in 5 years. That's probably in the region of being as much as we've lost in our entire history, ever, prior to Wael arriving, and what we have to show for it is a club in a worse state than the day he arrived.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 9, 2021 10:31:02 GMT
Running a football club must truly be a nightmare. Seeing the outgoings figure regularly exceeding the income figure must cause an ongoing headache. Im grateful to Wael for shouldering the responsibility for keeping Rovers alive. It If was left to me I’d have no recourse other than to shut the business down. I would like to think that I wouldn't have lost the thick end of £20m, in 5 years. That's probably in the region of being as much as we've lost in our entire history, ever, prior to Wael arriving, and what we have to show for it is a club in a worse state than the day he arrived. Very easy to say, but not so easy to do, especially if trying to keep league one status. Until we have a stadium where we can generate extra income we are not sustainable probably much above conference south.. Higgs, and even Dunford who I have a lot of respect for as he saved the club proved that. We are lucky to have someone like Weal who seems to understand the club and is willing to put his money in. The bad news is it cannot continue as few people are willing to throw money continuously without light at the end of the tunnel, so a stadium is imperative.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 10:35:58 GMT
I would like to think that I wouldn't have lost the thick end of £20m, in 5 years. That's probably in the region of being as much as we've lost in our entire history, ever, prior to Wael arriving, and what we have to show for it is a club in a worse state than the day he arrived. Very easy to say, but not so easy to do, especially if trying to keep league one status. Until we have a stadium where we can generate extra income we are not sustainable probably much above conference south.. Higgs, and even Dunford who I have a lot of respect for as he saved the club proved that. We are lucky to have someone like Weal who seems to understand the club and is willing to put his money in. The bad news is it cannot continue as few people are willing to throw money continuously without light at the end of the tunnel, so a stadium is imperative. How does £20m over 5 years, all secured against the stadium, compare to what other owners of L1 clubs have done over that period? Fleetwood are insane and lost almost £6m on their last set of published accounts, but that's what happens when you have a novice manager and try to buy promotion I guess, but I'll wager that the vast majority of L1 clubs, whilst losing money, won't have done anywhere near £20m, and that the owners will have carried some of the losses personally without securing the whole lot against assets. Anyway, we keep being told that Gorringe is a marketing God, so that gives us a massive advantage over our L1 rivals, and remember, Bristol has a catchment area of circa 1 million people, and only 2 professional football clubs, so it should be a pretty soft market, especially as Wael walked in with everything riding high and back-to-back promotions for the first time ever in Rovers' history.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 9, 2021 10:59:35 GMT
Very easy to say, but not so easy to do, especially if trying to keep league one status. Until we have a stadium where we can generate extra income we are not sustainable probably much above conference south.. Higgs, and even Dunford who I have a lot of respect for as he saved the club proved that. We are lucky to have someone like Weal who seems to understand the club and is willing to put his money in. The bad news is it cannot continue as few people are willing to throw money continuously without light at the end of the tunnel, so a stadium is imperative. How does £20m over 5 years, all secured against the stadium, compare to what other owners of L1 clubs have done over that period? Fleetwood are insane and lost almost £6m on their last set of published accounts, but that's what happens when you have a novice manager and try to buy promotion I guess, but I'll wager that the vast majority of L1 clubs, whilst losing money, won't have done anywhere near £20m, and that the owners will have carried some of the losses personally without securing the whole lot against assets. Anyway, we keep being told that Gorringe is a marketing God, so that gives us a massive advantage over our L1 rivals, and remember, Bristol has a catchment area of circa 1 million people, and only 2 professional football clubs, so it should be a pretty soft market, especially as Wael walked in with everything riding high and back-to-back promotions for the first time ever in Rovers' history. Sorry your arguments just don't stack.. Love the way you turned it back to JB with quote about Fleetwood. Their owner seems to be willing to go down that route, again not sustainable.. Most other clubs in league 1 have a stadium that does generate extra income. Burton are a great example of that, but even so most are losing money handover fist. Catchment area, a two club city... That definitely does not help us especially when our red friends are doing much better than us at the moment. Big business will gravitate to them unfortunately. One thing you do have right is Tom Gorringe, he's doing an excellent job in difficult circumstances and we are considerably more professional in all aspects of the club than compared to the Higgs era, which based upon anyone's criteria was an unmitigated disaster. If you explain otherwise I would like to hear it other than getting lucky with DC.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 11:12:05 GMT
How does £20m over 5 years, all secured against the stadium, compare to what other owners of L1 clubs have done over that period? Fleetwood are insane and lost almost £6m on their last set of published accounts, but that's what happens when you have a novice manager and try to buy promotion I guess, but I'll wager that the vast majority of L1 clubs, whilst losing money, won't have done anywhere near £20m, and that the owners will have carried some of the losses personally without securing the whole lot against assets. Anyway, we keep being told that Gorringe is a marketing God, so that gives us a massive advantage over our L1 rivals, and remember, Bristol has a catchment area of circa 1 million people, and only 2 professional football clubs, so it should be a pretty soft market, especially as Wael walked in with everything riding high and back-to-back promotions for the first time ever in Rovers' history. Sorry your arguments just don't stack.. Love the way you turned it back to JB with quote about Fleetwood. Their owner seems to be willing to go down that route, again not sustainable.. Most other clubs in league 1 have a stadium that does generate extra income. Burton are a great example of that, but even so most are losing money handover fist. Catchment area, a two club city... That definitely does not help us especially when our red friends are doing much better than us at the moment. Big business will gravitate to them unfortunately. One thing you do have right is Tom Gorringe, he's doing an excellent job in difficult circumstances and we are considerably more professional in all aspects of the club than compared to the Higgs era, which based upon anyone's criteria was an unmitigated disaster. If you explain otherwise I would like to hear it other than getting lucky with DC. My arguments are absolutely sound, all you've done is stick your head in a bucket and shout without explaining why I'm wrong. It's a matter of record that B***** was the manager when Fleetwood posted losses of £5,950,000 and still didn't get promoted. As Swiss keeps asking, do we have figures to demonstrate that there's a net increase in retained profit from anything that Gorringe has been involved in? Remember, this is the bloke who took on Mintbet as a sponsor, when we were expresely forbidden from entering any such contract, that made national news. You may think we're lucky to have him, I think he should have gone years ago. I'll ask again, how does £20m over 5 years, culminating in a desperate relegation battle, with the losses secured against our home, compare to what's happened at all other L1 clubs over that period? Go do some research, when you have some data let us know, it'll be interesting to see how we stack up against the competition. Ref what's happening in BS3, their stadium holds around 20,000 people, that leaves us the other 980,000 people to target as potential customers. A great example of how dreadful Gorringe is would be that I tried to buy a season ticket and was refused as the deadline had passed, this was prior to the first home game, so I phoned Ashton Gate, they had already played their first home match for that season but said that I was welcome to come down, there weren't may seats available but someone would go around the ground with me, I could sit in each of the available seats and buy a season ticket for whichever one I liked best. Lucky to have him? Yeah, OK, if you say so.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Apr 9, 2021 11:22:33 GMT
27,000 actually
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 9, 2021 11:40:43 GMT
Re Mintbet. Did we break the rules? I recall you could not have two rivals to Sky Bet on kit. Now there could be an argument that Football Index was not a rival as you could not bet on another events or sports. If Sky say jump then expect the EFL etc to say how high? So no point in appealing.
Plus we still got the sponsorship money.
In my view not a great disaster but that and all these comments are my view.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Apr 9, 2021 11:50:58 GMT
Sorry your arguments just don't stack.. Love the way you turned it back to JB with quote about Fleetwood. Their owner seems to be willing to go down that route, again not sustainable.. Most other clubs in league 1 have a stadium that does generate extra income. Burton are a great example of that, but even so most are losing money handover fist. Catchment area, a two club city... That definitely does not help us especially when our red friends are doing much better than us at the moment. Big business will gravitate to them unfortunately. One thing you do have right is Tom Gorringe, he's doing an excellent job in difficult circumstances and we are considerably more professional in all aspects of the club than compared to the Higgs era, which based upon anyone's criteria was an unmitigated disaster. If you explain otherwise I would like to hear it other than getting lucky with DC. My arguments are absolutely sound, all you've done is stick your head in a bucket and shout without explaining why I'm wrong. It's a matter of record that B***** was the manager when Fleetwood posted losses of £5,950,000 and still didn't get promoted. As Swiss keeps asking, do we have figures to demonstrate that there's a net increase in retained profit from anything that Gorringe has been involved in? Remember, this is the bloke who took on Mintbet as a sponsor, when we were expresely forbidden from entering any such contract, that made national news. You may think we're lucky to have him, I think he should have gone years ago. I'll ask again, how does £20m over 5 years, culminating in a desperate relegation battle, with the losses secured against our home, compare to what's happened at all other L1 clubs over that period? Go do some research, when you have some data let us know, it'll be interesting to see how we stack up against the competition. Ref what's happening in BS3, their stadium holds around 20,000 people, that leaves us the other 980,000 people to target as potential customers. A great example of how dreadful Gorringe is would be that I tried to buy a season ticket and was refused as the deadline had passed, this was prior to the first home game, so I phoned Ashton Gate, they had already played their first home match for that season but said that I was welcome to come down, there weren't may seats available but someone would go around the ground with me, I could sit in each of the available seats and buy a season ticket for whichever one I liked best. Lucky to have him? Yeah, OK, if you say so. No it is not me who have stuck their head in a bucket it seems to me your in a bit of a time warp, and hark back to a different era, when life was supposedly rosy. Unfortunately it was not. As a Rovers supporter since the 60s I've lived through most of them, and to me we are in a better place off the field than years previously. Eg. Training ground, and an owner who does have some money. Its not me who should be looking for facts, especially when your not even willing to give TG credit for what he has done over the last few years. With respect to debt Weal wrote off 20M last year, and I know you guys keep questioning that and that it's not really happened. Company house seems to show different. Though I'm sure Swiss will come back with something to prove otherwise. Lastly I get the feeling it does not matter what this regime did, you would find fault. Change is difficult, but one should embrace and look for the positive. You will find life is a much happier place then.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Apr 9, 2021 12:50:34 GMT
My arguments are absolutely sound, all you've done is stick your head in a bucket and shout without explaining why I'm wrong. It's a matter of record that B***** was the manager when Fleetwood posted losses of £5,950,000 and still didn't get promoted. As Swiss keeps asking, do we have figures to demonstrate that there's a net increase in retained profit from anything that Gorringe has been involved in? Remember, this is the bloke who took on Mintbet as a sponsor, when we were expresely forbidden from entering any such contract, that made national news. You may think we're lucky to have him, I think he should have gone years ago. I'll ask again, how does £20m over 5 years, culminating in a desperate relegation battle, with the losses secured against our home, compare to what's happened at all other L1 clubs over that period? Go do some research, when you have some data let us know, it'll be interesting to see how we stack up against the competition. Ref what's happening in BS3, their stadium holds around 20,000 people, that leaves us the other 980,000 people to target as potential customers. A great example of how dreadful Gorringe is would be that I tried to buy a season ticket and was refused as the deadline had passed, this was prior to the first home game, so I phoned Ashton Gate, they had already played their first home match for that season but said that I was welcome to come down, there weren't may seats available but someone would go around the ground with me, I could sit in each of the available seats and buy a season ticket for whichever one I liked best. Lucky to have him? Yeah, OK, if you say so. No it is not me who have stuck their head in a bucket it seems to me your in a bit of a time warp, and hark back to a different era, when life was supposedly rosy. Unfortunately it was not. As a Rovers supporter since the 60s I've lived through most of them, and to me we are in a better place off the field than years previously. Eg. Training ground, and an owner who does have some money. Its not me who should be looking for facts, especially when your not even willing to give TG credit for what he has done over the last few years. With respect to debt Weal wrote off 20M last year, and I know you guys keep questioning that and that it's not really happened. Company house seems to show different. Though I'm sure Swiss will come back with something to prove otherwise. Lastly I get the feeling it does not matter what this regime did, you would find fault. Change is difficult, but one should embrace and look for the positive. You will find life is a much happier place then. I like the positivity Holmesgas, but Wael is no Lansdowne, he will not be able to sustain losing 5 million each year ongoing, the losses secured against the Mem must already be getting close to the total asset value, then what?. The Wael and Garner Developing Youth for Profit Plan is now out the window and that was the very thing that was supposed to be the big profit maker to make us more sustainable. B***** I think will want to spend money, he has shown that from his Fleetwood days, can Wael say no to him?, and so we go on. It's not today I am concerned about, 2 years later concerns me.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 9, 2021 13:28:19 GMT
Very easy to say, but not so easy to do, especially if trying to keep league one status. Until we have a stadium where we can generate extra income we are not sustainable probably much above conference south.. Higgs, and even Dunford who I have a lot of respect for as he saved the club proved that. We are lucky to have someone like Weal who seems to understand the club and is willing to put his money in. The bad news is it cannot continue as few people are willing to throw money continuously without light at the end of the tunnel, so a stadium is imperative. How does £20m over 5 years, all secured against the stadium, compare to what other owners of L1 clubs have done over that period? Fleetwood are insane and lost almost £6m on their last set of published accounts, but that's what happens when you have a novice manager and try to buy promotion I guess, but I'll wager that the vast majority of L1 clubs, whilst losing money, won't have done anywhere near £20m, and that the owners will have carried some of the losses personally without securing the whole lot against assets. Anyway, we keep being told that Gorringe is a marketing God, so that gives us a massive advantage over our L1 rivals, and remember, Bristol has a catchment area of circa 1 million people, and only 2 professional football clubs, so it should be a pretty soft market, especially as Wael walked in with everything riding high and back-to-back promotions for the first time ever in Rovers' history. I like Tom Gorringe. He's very approachable and always responds promptly to questions. Based on personal experience - I think criticism is unwarranted. So save it for... Our buffoon of an owner, the DOF, the violent thug manager and the sycophantic B***** fanboys. The Club is an embarrassment. United we stand, divided we fall. It's just all very, very sad.
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Post by swissgas on Apr 9, 2021 15:19:53 GMT
Running a football club must truly be a nightmare. Seeing the outgoings figure regularly exceeding the income figure must cause an ongoing headache. Im grateful to Wael for shouldering the responsibility for keeping Rovers alive. It If was left to me I’d have no recourse other than to shut the business down. I'd let someone else have a go before I did that. The way the business model is now structured will make that "someone" very hard to find.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 9, 2021 17:21:17 GMT
Made worse this season due to expenditure staying more or less the same yet income being minimal esp in the lower leagues. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 18:20:04 GMT
My arguments are absolutely sound, all you've done is stick your head in a bucket and shout without explaining why I'm wrong. It's a matter of record that B***** was the manager when Fleetwood posted losses of £5,950,000 and still didn't get promoted. As Swiss keeps asking, do we have figures to demonstrate that there's a net increase in retained profit from anything that Gorringe has been involved in? Remember, this is the bloke who took on Mintbet as a sponsor, when we were expresely forbidden from entering any such contract, that made national news. You may think we're lucky to have him, I think he should have gone years ago. I'll ask again, how does £20m over 5 years, culminating in a desperate relegation battle, with the losses secured against our home, compare to what's happened at all other L1 clubs over that period? Go do some research, when you have some data let us know, it'll be interesting to see how we stack up against the competition. Ref what's happening in BS3, their stadium holds around 20,000 people, that leaves us the other 980,000 people to target as potential customers. A great example of how dreadful Gorringe is would be that I tried to buy a season ticket and was refused as the deadline had passed, this was prior to the first home game, so I phoned Ashton Gate, they had already played their first home match for that season but said that I was welcome to come down, there weren't may seats available but someone would go around the ground with me, I could sit in each of the available seats and buy a season ticket for whichever one I liked best. Lucky to have him? Yeah, OK, if you say so. No it is not me who have stuck their head in a bucket it seems to me your in a bit of a time warp, and hark back to a different era, when life was supposedly rosy. Unfortunately it was not. As a Rovers supporter since the 60s I've lived through most of them, and to me we are in a better place off the field than years previously. Eg. Training ground, and an owner who does have some money. Its not me who should be looking for facts, especially when your not even willing to give TG credit for what he has done over the last few years. With respect to debt Weal wrote off 20M last year, and I know you guys keep questioning that and that it's not really happened. Company house seems to show different. Though I'm sure Swiss will come back with something to prove otherwise. Lastly I get the feeling it does not matter what this regime did, you would find fault. Change is difficult, but one should embrace and look for the positive. You will find life is a much happier place then. You're wasting your time on this one HolmesGas. (I think the technical term is "p*ssing in the wind") Its all Wael or Gorringe's fault, you must know that by now. Charlton lost £10m (again) last year, Rochdale needed a loan from the Council to keep going, Oxford lost £4.5m the season before last, tuned it into a profit last year by selling players and with £3m pumped in by shareholders. Posh lost £4 million even with selling their star striker. Just a quick selection of different size clubs in our division. But the list is endless, you don't need to look very far and it doesn't take long to look up. But people wont bother to find out, although they will bother to ring Ashton Gate (new stadium, all seater 27000 seats) to enquire about season tickets so as to knock Gorringe). (That last bit is actually hilarious, especially to then use it in a so say serious debate.) Its all that nasty Wael's fault for funding us by £20m and building us a Training Ground. How dare he do that. And that useless Gorringe turning us from a corner shop into to a professional business. Whatever next?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 18:28:53 GMT
No it is not me who have stuck their head in a bucket it seems to me your in a bit of a time warp, and hark back to a different era, when life was supposedly rosy. Unfortunately it was not. As a Rovers supporter since the 60s I've lived through most of them, and to me we are in a better place off the field than years previously. Eg. Training ground, and an owner who does have some money. Its not me who should be looking for facts, especially when your not even willing to give TG credit for what he has done over the last few years. With respect to debt Weal wrote off 20M last year, and I know you guys keep questioning that and that it's not really happened. Company house seems to show different. Though I'm sure Swiss will come back with something to prove otherwise. Lastly I get the feeling it does not matter what this regime did, you would find fault. Change is difficult, but one should embrace and look for the positive. You will find life is a much happier place then. You're wasting your time on this one HolmesGas. (I think the technical term is "p*ssing in the wind") Its all Wael or Gorringe's fault, you must know that by now. Charlton lost £10m (again) last year, Rochdale needed a loan from the Council to keep going, Oxford lost £4.5m the season before last, tuned it into a profit last year by selling players and with £3m pumped in by shareholders. Posh lost £4 million even with selling their star striker. Just a quick selection of different size clubs in our division. But the list is endless, you don't need to look very far and it doesn't take long to look up. But people wont bother to find out, although they will bother to ring Ashton Gate (new stadium, all seater 27000 seats) to enquire about season tickets so as to knock Gorringe). (That last bit is actually hilarious, especially to then use it in a so say serious debate.) Its all that nasty Wael's fault for funding us by £20m and building us a Training Ground. How dare he do that. And that useless Gorringe turning us from a corner shop into to a professional business. Whatever next? I'm actually amazed that this year of all years, no club has called in the administrators, yet. I can only assume that both HMRC and trade creditors are being very lenient and of course season ticket holders who have been generous not asking for refunds. Is this the lull before the storm? Who knows, as I said earlier I thought pro football would have hit the wall a decade ago. I'm going to remain sitting back and enjoying the ride whilst others pour millions into both our club and the game in general.
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