harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Mar 5, 2021 21:08:03 GMT
Difficult trip to KC stadium geographically and to seek any points.
But Joey will no doubt have had further opportunity to drill the squad on the training ground.
He talks a good game and is very positive but 10 wins from past 47 league games speaks volumes.
Hoping Day is back between the sticks.
Any news on the flying Fin?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 21:25:39 GMT
I guess it depends on the referee. If he’s any good, we win. If he’s 💩, we lose. I’ve learnt that fact this week
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 23:57:07 GMT
I must add, I was enthused by Barton’s preview. All about him and how many times he’s hammered Grant McCann’s teams. Like Paul Buckle’s love child with Jose Mourinho. At least Hull won’t need a team talk tomorrow.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 6, 2021 1:55:33 GMT
We’ve looked good in all Barton’s games, not just the odd one. Solid, with plenty of engine behind and supporting Hanlon.
This is a big game. Hull might look 2nd going for a title but they are not. With the games in hand behind them they can’t slip up afternoons like this one. Meanwhile, I have us getting 42 points from remaining fixtures, and nothing from this one, but a backs to wall 3 points and it’s 45 and safety getting closer.
What I remember from the first match, we dominated them, led them. They changed it from the bench, like so many games under Garner, whilst top of table side overloading for the win, we are not reacting. That didn’t mean scoreline flattering opponents based on all the game because keeping it tight till 70 then grabbing the win is fair enough game management. If you’ve got the bench to do it.
I think this is a nailed on 2.2 today. That’s what football does. Exciting game where you least expect where nobody wins.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 6, 2021 9:55:39 GMT
Following on from a very good post from ESB, I think we have the opportunity to surprise a few today and upset some accas.
No crowds should definitely benefit us more than them.
If we can start 2 strikers up front, and use attack as a form of defence, I'll stick neck out and say 1-0 win...
Not expecting anything from today, so anything else is a bonus what've we got to lose?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 9:59:29 GMT
We tend to get results when we appear to be odds on for defeat and today feels like one of those days. I don't think we will return pointless. 3-2-1 I'm back in the room  |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Mar 6, 2021 10:53:34 GMT
Hanlan only 80% fit and McCormick suspended. Is Ogogo still injured and how fit is Daly? I'm not that optimistic tbh. Having said that we seem to do better against top sides away, but I'm not sure Barton's attacking policy will help us to maintain that. Hull need to have a bad day at the office today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 11:14:02 GMT
I’m going to stick my neck out and predict that it will be all the ref’s fault
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 11:20:09 GMT
We’ve looked good in all Barton’s games, not just the odd one. Solid, with plenty of engine behind and supporting Hanlon. This is a big game. Hull might look 2nd going for a title but they are not. With the games in hand behind them they can’t slip up afternoons like this one. Meanwhile, I have us getting 42 points from remaining fixtures, and nothing from this one, but a backs to wall 3 points and it’s 45 and safety getting closer. What I remember from the first match, we dominated them, led them. They changed it from the bench, like so many games under Garner, whilst top of table side overloading for the win, we are not reacting. That didn’t mean scoreline flattering opponents based on all the game because keeping it tight till 70 then grabbing the win is fair enough game management. If you’ve got the bench to do it. I think this is a nailed on 2.2 today. That’s what football does. Exciting game where you least expect where nobody wins. They raised their game when they made the three subs. I thought we had played quite well on our own merits up until then but it was clear that actually they had been playing within themselves and when the triple substitution happened Hull really stepped up a gear in their all round accuracy and sharpness. To be fair we did commit suicide in the sense that defensively we switched off for the equaliser and the second was a mistake from Baldwin, but they were clearly better than us man for man when it came down to it and they only had to play for 20 minutes to put three goals on us. It’s been the story of the season for the most part with sound beatings at places like Crewe and Accrington following. If our opponents come correct this team has got a real job on it’s hands to get anything from a game. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 11:20:46 GMT
Hull, W18 D5 L10, so they are only winning just over half of their games.
If the players are as good as Widdrington says and Barton is as inspirational as people claim there's no reason whatsoever for us to not be heading home with at least 1 point.
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Post by basel on Mar 6, 2021 11:22:21 GMT
It seems that Joey Bartons coaching might have a better chance of seeing players improve and believe.Possibly.
Also,every game has offered vital experience,so as each game is played ,the chances of real consistent improvement can increase and be turned into a decent points return.
In the scenario the above is right, have we got enough time?
We ought to be able to at least bite back against the Tigers and give em a game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 11:23:50 GMT
Hull, W18 D5 L10, so they are only winning just over half of their games. If the players are as good as Widdrington says and Barton is as inspirational as people claim there's no reason whatsoever for us to not be heading home with at least 1 point. Look at our record against the teams around us, it’s appalling. It somewhat suggests that the bigger teams who don’t turn up are where we are likely to get our points- see the lacklustre Portsmouth display the other week. Any team that is prepared to play in a higher gear against us is likely to turn us over. Barton has to hope Hull are too busy thinking about their next fixture today. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 11:34:52 GMT
I’m going to stick my neck out and predict that it will be all the ref’s fault If you can present that in articulate, intelligent, engaging way you may be correct |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 6, 2021 12:16:54 GMT
It seems that Joey Bartons coaching might have a better chance of seeing players improve and believe.Possibly. Also,every game has offered vital experience,so as each game is played ,the chances of real consistent improvement can increase and be turned into a decent points return. In the scenario the above is right, have we got enough time? We ought to be able to at least bite back against the Tigers and give em a game. some good points there, he is sticking to a tactic and embedding it, as each game is then played chances of real consistent improvement can increase. The last thing we need is for another manager to rip it up game to game going all Tisdale. if there is no Hanlan, Jonah can deputise. Argument for Daly to play, but I’m not sure as direct swap for mcormack, perhaps messi better sub for the suspended player? |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 6, 2021 13:11:45 GMT
It seems that Joey Bartons coaching might have a better chance of seeing players improve and believe.Possibly. Also,every game has offered vital experience,so as each game is played ,the chances of real consistent improvement can increase and be turned into a decent points return. In the scenario the above is right, have we got enough time? We ought to be able to at least bite back against the Tigers and give em a game. some good points there, he is sticking to a tactic and embedding it, as each game is then played chances of real consistent improvement can increase. The last thing we need is for another manager to rip it up game to game going all Tisdale. if there is no Hanlan, Jonah can deputise. Argument for Daly to play, but I’m not sure as direct swap for mcormack, perhaps messi better sub for the suspended player? BP reckons upson for McCormick. Okay. Changes the dynamic a bit from lung busting creative to error prone plodder. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 13:54:04 GMT
Hanlan only 80% fit and McCormick suspended. Is Ogogo still injured and how fit is Daly? I'm not that optimistic tbh. Having said that we seem to do better against top sides away, but I'm not sure Barton's attacking policy will help us to maintain that. Hull need to have a bad day at the office today. Ogogo out for the rest of the season. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 13:55:36 GMT
It seems that Joey Bartons coaching might have a better chance of seeing players improve and believe.Possibly. Also,every game has offered vital experience,so as each game is played ,the chances of real consistent improvement can increase and be turned into a decent points return. In the scenario the above is right, have we got enough time? We ought to be able to at least bite back against the Tigers and give em a game. some good points there, he is sticking to a tactic and embedding it, as each game is then played chances of real consistent improvement can increase. The last thing we need is for another manager to rip it up game to game going all Tisdale. if there is no Hanlan, Jonah can deputise. Argument for Daly to play, but I’m not sure as direct swap for mcormack, perhaps messi better sub for the suspended player? The intent to press seems novel, but the problem with a press is that opponents can eventually figure you out and if they can get around the press you end up exposed more often than not. |
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Post by basel on Mar 6, 2021 14:01:23 GMT
It seems that Joey Bartons coaching might have a better chance of seeing players improve and believe.Possibly. Also,every game has offered vital experience,so as each game is played ,the chances of real consistent improvement can increase and be turned into a decent points return. In the scenario the above is right, have we got enough time? We ought to be able to at least bite back against the Tigers and give em a game. some good points there, he is sticking to a tactic and embedding it, as each game is then played chances of real consistent improvement can increase. The last thing we need is for another manager to rip it up game to game going all Tisdale. if there is no Hanlan, Jonah can deputise. Argument for Daly to play, but I’m not sure as direct swap for mcormack, perhaps messi better sub for the suspended player? Hmm,well a creator with Jonah might make sense,maybe ,but I listen on the radio and watch highlights. Messi might create,but what's he like off the ball or when opposition have it? I like Daly,I think he's bright and alert player. I wonder what formation too? That maybe vital today. I hope Day is in goal. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 6, 2021 14:08:05 GMT
3 mistakes in starting line up for me.
Day in.
Ehmer in and back as captain.
No two strikers up front.
Westbrooke starts and if his dead ball deliveries are left wanting, offers little in the battle to get the ball back and goes missing in open play.
For me, I retract the 1-0 prediction and place us clearly with daylight two goal defeat....
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Post by basel on Mar 6, 2021 14:11:38 GMT
3 mistakes in starting line up for me. Day in. Ehmer in and back as captain. No two strikers up front. Westbrooke starts and if his dead ball deliveries are left wanting, offers little in the battle to get the ball back and goes missing in open play. For me, I retract the 1-0 prediction and place us clearly with daylight two goal defeat.... Day is our 2nd best GK imo o2o2b. I'm not surprised it's one upfront,we'll crowd midfield then.I don't know our best 11 is but it sounds as if Ehmer has not been reliable. Fingers crossed. |
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