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Post by emperorsuperbus on Feb 16, 2021 18:42:26 GMT
Don't know about McKay, but I'd welcome a fit Joe Ledley in our midfield. He hasn’t been fit for 5 years, that’s the problem! about as mobile as ocean liner, and slower than a sloth. If he signs it points to something seriously wrong at the club we love.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 22:03:47 GMT
The news that Joe Ledley is apparently training with Rovers lends credence to the rumour that the club is now heavily involved with controversial football agent Willie McKay. Swiss, please tell me there is nothing to the McKay rumour
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Post by mangogas15 on Feb 18, 2021 7:28:24 GMT
Joey B***** pointed out the impact the crowd can have on a game such as this, "Bristol Rovers are a good side; they defend the goal fantastically well and it’s a really tough place to go. They’ve got a good crowd at Bristol Rovers so whether they’re on a good run or a bad run, it’s a tough place to go."
This was before the 0-0 draw last season where JCH missed a pen and they dominated us for 90 mins.
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Post by chelt_gas on Feb 18, 2021 8:08:01 GMT
The news that Joe Ledley is apparently training with Rovers lends credence to the rumour that the club is now heavily involved with controversial football agent Willie McKay. Swiss, please tell me there is nothing to the McKay rumour We were linked with him last season www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/truth-behind-omar-bogle-joe-3713298Apparently he 'pined' for a move back to south Wales in January last year. Fortunately he got that move albeit to New South Wales with the Newcastle Jets where Carl Robinson was managing. Then Covid hit and it all went to bat s**t, excuse the pun.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 8:55:19 GMT
Sorry, I meant McKay rather than Ledley. A banned agent but with links to B***** in that he was both B*****’s agent and is also standing trial in June, for fraud rather than assault
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Post by towngas on Feb 18, 2021 9:11:57 GMT
It says on the BBC website that JB has been in discussions with Rovers re the managers job. Do you think there’s any truth in this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 9:21:57 GMT
It says on the BBC website that JB has been in discussions with Rovers re the managers job. Do you think there’s any truth in this? Interesting that the Post says the major potential stumbling block in a deal for B***** is his back room staff and control rather than the alienation of a chunk of the fan base, which I think demonstrates where the boards priorities lie
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 18, 2021 9:35:55 GMT
It says on the BBC website that JB has been in discussions with Rovers re the managers job. Do you think there’s any truth in this? Interesting that the Post says the major potential stumbling block in a deal for B***** is his back room staff and control rather than the alienation of a chunk of the fan base, which I think demonstrates where the boards priorities lie Well, it's only the Post. But - Hopefully two major stumbling blocks then. Back Room Staff: 1. Would Wael really want to fund B***** AND backroom staff? How would they 'fit in'? Who would we be sacking to make room for them? How long would it take for them to have any effect? Good luck chaps when B***** and his entourage walk into the Boardroom demanding 'change' and more 'control'. Who's going to stand up to them? Why would you really want him as an employee??? 2. That's even more pay offs when it inevitably all goes t*ts up. Alienation of a percentage of the fan base. How many core fans do we have? ST's and people who watch (say) 10-12 games a season? 7000? How many fans feel like I do? 1000? Maybe it's just me and I'm howling in the wind. Feels like on here roughly 75% are 'not happy' with B*****. I know, it's only a small sample. But it's people who care.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 9:42:48 GMT
Interesting that the Post says the major potential stumbling block in a deal for B***** is his back room staff and control rather than the alienation of a chunk of the fan base, which I think demonstrates where the boards priorities lie Well, it's only the Post. But - Hopefully two major stumbling blocks then. Back Room Staff: 1. Would Wael really want to fund B***** AND backroom staff? How would they 'fit in'? Who would we be sacking to make room for them? How long would it take for them to have any effect? Good luck chaps when B***** and his entourage walk into the Boardroom demanding 'change' and more 'control'. Who's going to stand up to them? Why would you really want him as an employee??? 2. That's even more pay offs when it inevitably all goes t*ts up. Alienation of a percentage of the fan base. How many core fans do we have? ST's and people who watch (say) 10-12 games a season? 7000? How many fans feel like I do? 1000? Maybe it's just me and I'm howling in the wind. Feels like on here roughly 75% are 'not happy' with B*****. I know, it's only a small sample. But it's people who care. I’m 100% with you Epping. But sadly I don’t see why the current board would see supporters as any more than a monetary value on a spreadsheet in the way a supermarket would.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Feb 18, 2021 9:57:56 GMT
...Alienation of a percentage of the fan base. How many core fans do we have? ST's and people who watch (say) 10-12 games a season? 7000? How many fans feel like I do? 1000? Maybe it's just me and I'm howling in the wind. Feels like on here roughly 75% are 'not happy' with B*****. I know, it's only a small sample. But it's people who care. I’m 100% with you Epping. But sadly I don’t see why the current board would see supporters as any more than a monetary value on a spreadsheet in the way a supermarket would. The supporters' contribution at present, though good, I should imagine, isn't supporting the running of the club. Wael's financing those losses. The only advantage fans have is that WAQ seems to love their (previous) adulation although that coincided with a promotion!
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 18, 2021 10:02:11 GMT
Well, it's only the Post. But - Hopefully two major stumbling blocks then. Back Room Staff: 1. Would Wael really want to fund B***** AND backroom staff? How would they 'fit in'? Who would we be sacking to make room for them? How long would it take for them to have any effect? Good luck chaps when B***** and his entourage walk into the Boardroom demanding 'change' and more 'control'. Who's going to stand up to them? Why would you really want him as an employee??? 2. That's even more pay offs when it inevitably all goes t*ts up. Alienation of a percentage of the fan base. How many core fans do we have? ST's and people who watch (say) 10-12 games a season? 7000? How many fans feel like I do? 1000? Maybe it's just me and I'm howling in the wind. Feels like on here roughly 75% are 'not happy' with B*****. I know, it's only a small sample. But it's people who care. I’m 100% with you Epping. But sadly I don’t see why the current board would see supporters as any more than a monetary value on a spreadsheet in the way a supermarket would. Well hopefully the prospect of maybe 1000 people: not turning up to games, not buying Club merchandise, not drinking in the Bars, and not buying pasties... Will make them take a closer look at their excel spreadsheet, and the increased losses the Club will face. All this when the Board are allegedly looking at better financial control and limiting annual losses! FFS. You couldn't make up this sh*t.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 10:10:01 GMT
I’m 100% with you Epping. But sadly I don’t see why the current board would see supporters as any more than a monetary value on a spreadsheet in the way a supermarket would. Well hopefully the prospect of maybe 1000 people: not turning up to games, not buying Club merchandise, not drinking in the Bars, and not buying pasties... Will make them take a closer look at their excel spreadsheet, and the increased losses the Club will face. All this when the Board are allegedly looking at better financial control and limiting annual losses! FFS. You couldn't make up this sh*t. You really couldn’t. Add the fact that there are already much fewer families and kids at the Mem than there should be in my view (in non covid times), further alienating this demographic just creates an even bigger new generation of 💩 heads
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 11:16:52 GMT
Interesting that the Post says the major potential stumbling block in a deal for B***** is his back room staff and control rather than the alienation of a chunk of the fan base, which I think demonstrates where the boards priorities lie Well, it's only the Post. But - Hopefully two major stumbling blocks then. Back Room Staff: 1. Would Wael really want to fund B***** AND backroom staff? How would they 'fit in'? Who would we be sacking to make room for them? How long would it take for them to have any effect? Good luck chaps when B***** and his entourage walk into the Boardroom demanding 'change' and more 'control'. Who's going to stand up to them? Why would you really want him as an employee??? 2. That's even more pay offs when it inevitably all goes t*ts up. Alienation of a percentage of the fan base. How many core fans do we have? ST's and people who watch (say) 10-12 games a season? 7000? How many fans feel like I do? 1000? Maybe it's just me and I'm howling in the wind. Feels like on here roughly 75% are 'not happy' with B*****. I know, it's only a small sample. But it's people who care. The club has been trying to turn us into customers since Wael arrived, which is fine by me because it releases me from the shackles of being a “supporter”- ie someone who is expected to blindly clap every decision the club makes and embrace mediocrity. As a customer I can criticise the product and the direction of the business and hiring decisions like giving a dyed in the wool asshole the manager’s job. I still don’t think they are mad enough to actually employ him though. We might be looking for our third manager by February but we aren’t *that* much of a circus.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 11:35:33 GMT
Well, it's only the Post. But - Hopefully two major stumbling blocks then. Back Room Staff: 1. Would Wael really want to fund B***** AND backroom staff? How would they 'fit in'? Who would we be sacking to make room for them? How long would it take for them to have any effect? Good luck chaps when B***** and his entourage walk into the Boardroom demanding 'change' and more 'control'. Who's going to stand up to them? Why would you really want him as an employee??? 2. That's even more pay offs when it inevitably all goes t*ts up. Alienation of a percentage of the fan base. How many core fans do we have? ST's and people who watch (say) 10-12 games a season? 7000? How many fans feel like I do? 1000? Maybe it's just me and I'm howling in the wind. Feels like on here roughly 75% are 'not happy' with B*****. I know, it's only a small sample. But it's people who care. The club has been trying to turn us into customers since Wael arrived, which is fine by me because it releases me from the shackles of being a “supporter”- ie someone who is expected to blindly clap every decision the club makes and embrace mediocrity. As a customer I can criticise the product and the direction of the business and hiring decisions like giving a dyed in the wool asshole the manager’s job. I still don’t think they are mad enough to actually employ him though. We might be looking for our third manager by February but we aren’t *that* much of a circus. This is one of the key things about B*****, what will Wael do when he has his first meltdown and gets into trouble again? It's hard to understand why this is even a consideration, we know that Wael tries to mingle around important people, employing B***** certainly won't open doors and won't impress the people who Wael seems to want attention from.
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Post by eppinggas on Feb 18, 2021 12:28:43 GMT
Bookies odds. A couple of points to make. 1. B***** now at 4-6, though he has been as tight as 1-5. 2. The bookies market is VERY thin. Hence Skybet only let me put a maximum bet of £5 on Widders being given the managers position (10 games required). He was 16-1 yesterday, now 10-1. I'm still 'suspended' from additional activity. Looks to me more like the odds offered are just a publicity stunt. Conclusion. Does B***** have any real 'value' at around Evens or tighter? Answer: No.
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Post by tanksfull on Feb 18, 2021 12:41:09 GMT
Bookies odds. A couple of points to make. 1. B***** now at 4-6, though he has been as tight as 1-5. 2. The bookies market is VERY thin. Hence Skybet only let me put a maximum bet of £5 on Widders being given the managers position (10 games required). He was 16-1 yesterday, now 10-1. I'm still 'suspended' from additional activity. Looks to me more like the odds offered are just a publicity stunt. Conclusion. Does B***** have any real 'value' at around Evens or tighter? Answer: No. Agreed.
B***** 10/11 (was 1/8 at one stage). Robinson 2/1. Rowberry 4/1. Stendel 10/1 along with Widdrington. Woodgate (new) 16/1.
Odds changing as more bets made and book is "balanced". Very thin market and small bets will produce big changes.
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Post by bluetornados on Feb 18, 2021 13:02:40 GMT
IMO sometimes going with the blindingly everyone is against it option (i.e B***** for manager) is sometimes the answer.
We know he is a head-case, very controversial, madcap and many other things to.
He might just be the 'off the wall' character we need, just like a certain Mr Holloway.
Holloway with us had a 36.4 % win rate and has never in his career been over 40 %.
B*****'s time in his only job as manager at Fleetwood was 39.8 % win rate.
Either way i will be supporting the new guy to get us out of this hell-hole we are in.
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Post by Delsy on Feb 18, 2021 16:00:46 GMT
Joey Bag 'll be alright, better than some porridge gobbler that no one has ever heard of and has plied his trade in a system that is generally akin to conference standard football. Love him or hate him he will certainly give the club a bit of publicity { good or bad ! } which would be novel for the Rovers and with his bite and tenacity it could prove to be just what the playing side of the club needs at this time.
I'll bet if he comes in and gets the team winning and moving up the league the fans will soon take to him as some kind of cult messiah, there will be pigeons crapping on statues of him along Filton Avenue in years to come !!
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Feb 18, 2021 16:28:43 GMT
Joey Bag 'll be alright, better than some porridge gobbler that no one has ever heard of and has plied his trade in a system that is generally akin to conference standard football. Love him or hate him he will certainly give the club a bit of publicity { good or bad ! } which would be novel for the Rovers and with his bite and tenacity it could prove to be just what the playing side of the club needs at this time. I'll bet if he comes in and gets the team winning and moving up the league the fans will soon take to him as some kind of cult messiah, there will be pigeons crapping on statues of him along Filton Avenue in years to come !! Gordon Strachan ate porridge with sliced banana for breakfast every day when he was a player. Bet you wouldn't dare call him a porridge gobbler to his face
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 18, 2021 16:41:59 GMT
Interesting that the Post says the major potential stumbling block in a deal for B***** is his back room staff and control rather than the alienation of a chunk of the fan base, which I think demonstrates where the boards priorities lie Well, it's only the Post. But - Hopefully two major stumbling blocks then. Back Room Staff: 1. Would Wael really want to fund B***** AND backroom staff? How would they 'fit in'? Who would we be sacking to make room for them? How long would it take for them to have any effect? Good luck chaps when B***** and his entourage walk into the Boardroom demanding 'change' and more 'control'. Who's going to stand up to them? Why would you really want him as an employee??? 2. That's even more pay offs when it inevitably all goes t*ts up. Alienation of a percentage of the fan base. How many core fans do we have? ST's and people who watch (say) 10-12 games a season? 7000? How many fans feel like I do? 1000? Maybe it's just me and I'm howling in the wind. Feels like on here roughly 75% are 'not happy' with B*****. I know, it's only a small sample. But it's people who care. Looks like the younger forum and Facebook groups are in favour. I really don’t understand this
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