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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 23:58:48 GMT
To be fair to widdrington under his watch we recruited hare,jaakola,davies,ogogo,clarke-harris and blackman who have all been consistent performers for rovers. We dont know yet about the 3 permanent or 4 loan signings because we have not seen enough of them. Oh so Ogogo is in favour this week is he? Last week he was part of the worst midfield in the league along with Upson, another Widdrington signing. Throw Leahy into the mix (another one who arguably isn’t even a footballer) and Little (shocking signing), Adeboyejo, the fat lad etc and his record starts to average out as being pretty uninspiring. For every high there is a low. And this guy is supposed to be finding the brightest youngsters in the land for Gentle Ben to mould into a crack troop of league conquerors? I’m not buying it. We are on our way back where DC rescued us from under this administration. Darragh MacAnthony would sack the lot of them as not being good enough, but they are right up Bristol Rovers street because, as we proved with our treatment of Coughlan, we don’t like winning.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 0:28:25 GMT
To be fair to widdrington under his watch we recruited hare,jaakola,davies,ogogo,clarke-harris and blackman who have all been consistent performers for rovers. We dont know yet about the 3 permanent or 4 loan signings because we have not seen enough of them. Oh so Ogogo is in favour this week is he? Last week he was part of the worst midfield in the league along with Upson, another Widdrington signing. Throw Leahy into the mix (another one who arguably isn’t even a footballer) and Little (shocking signing), Adeboyejo, the fat lad etc and his record starts to average out as being pretty uninspiring. For every high there is a low. And this guy is supposed to be finding the brightest youngsters in the land for Gentle Ben to mould into a crack troop of league conquerors? I’m not buying it. We are on our way back where DC rescued us from under this administration. Darragh MacAnthony would sack the lot of them as not being good enough, but they are right up Bristol Rovers street because, as we proved with our treatment of Coughlan, we don’t like winning. By all means find a post where i have hammered ogogo if you can? Both upson and ogogo performed well under coughlan as did leahy after a dodgy start. None of us have seen enough of the new signings to judge them yet although its pretty shocking that barrett looked overweight and unfit when he made his debut. The fans "treatment of coughlan" you mean? I enjoyed the four good seasons under DC and The really positive attacking football we played. With coughlan i hated the football but clearly stated i thought we should have stuck with maher/mansell when coughlan left and predicted garner would be a disaster. I never had and never will have any time for negative football so people like pulis,allardyce,mourinho and coughlan are other peoples managers not mine.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 0:56:18 GMT
Oh so Ogogo is in favour this week is he? Last week he was part of the worst midfield in the league along with Upson, another Widdrington signing. Throw Leahy into the mix (another one who arguably isn’t even a footballer) and Little (shocking signing), Adeboyejo, the fat lad etc and his record starts to average out as being pretty uninspiring. For every high there is a low. And this guy is supposed to be finding the brightest youngsters in the land for Gentle Ben to mould into a crack troop of league conquerors? I’m not buying it. We are on our way back where DC rescued us from under this administration. Darragh MacAnthony would sack the lot of them as not being good enough, but they are right up Bristol Rovers street because, as we proved with our treatment of Coughlan, we don’t like winning. By all means find a post where i have hammered ogogo if you can? Both upson and ogogo performed well under coughlan as did leahy after a dodgy start. None of us have seen enough of the new signings to judge them yet although its pretty shocking that barrett looked overweight and unfit when he made his debut. The fans "treatment of coughlan" you mean? I enjoyed the four good seasons under DC and The really positive attacking football we played. With coughlan i hated the football but clearly stated i thought we should have stuck with maher/mansell when coughlan left and predicted garner would be a disaster. I never had and never will have any time for negative football so people like pulis,allardyce,mourinho and coughlan are other peoples managers not mine. I was referring to the majority who all seem to think that our current midfield is the poorest in the league. Barrett is a case in point about Widdrington- he was overweight when Widdrington signed him for Coventry and he is still overweight now. That speaks to his professionalism and yet we offered him a full time contract! I hold my hands up about GC, I was one of those who criticised the quality of the football. It’s like the board signed Garner as a poke in the eye to the likes of me who wanted to see more progressive football. I’ve learnt a very painful lesson there- winning is it’s own reward. And to put the tin hat on it Garner is playing worse football than GC and now claims it will take him another window at least- full of cock and bull that lad. Still I suppose he can afford to be because he knows he has got Wael and Starnes by the balls because if they haven’t sacked him by now they never will. He’s got carte Blanche to take us down next season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 1:04:47 GMT
regarding barrett i can only think that he is very talented and we decided to take a chance on sorting out his fitness. The team as yet have no identity under garner,its just a mess. Three straight wins could change all that.
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Post by droitwichgas on Mar 7, 2020 7:59:05 GMT
regarding barrett i can only think that he is very talented and we decided to take a chance on sorting out his fitness. The team as yet have no identity under garner,its just a mess. Three straight wins could change all that. If Championship side Reading can't get him fit how the hell do we hope to with our shocking training facilities? Although not sure signing mostly ex Coventry players is a sign of a good scout. It was confirmed this week Blackman 's move was organised via Wael's Chelsea contacts. It's a joke really when we sign 7 players in January and the only decent one was signed by the owner. I can never understand how Wriddington got his son on the payroll.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 8:34:09 GMT
regarding barrett i can only think that he is very talented and we decided to take a chance on sorting out his fitness. The team as yet have no identity under garner,its just a mess. Three straight wins could change all that. If Championship side Reading can't get him fit how the hell do we hope to with our shocking training facilities? Although not sure signing mostly ex Coventry players is a sign of a good scout. It was confirmed this week Blackman 's move was organised via Wael's Chelsea contacts. It's a joke really when we sign 7 players in January and the only decent one was signed by the owner. I can never understand how Wriddington got his son on the payroll. So you already know daly and harries are no good? also the other 4 havnt played enough to judge them surely? Regarding coventry players,if they perform like clarke-harris,ogogo and davies i hope we sign more from there. Have you seen much of widdrington?
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Post by toteend3 on Mar 7, 2020 8:53:36 GMT
Don't know why Wael forces him to go public, he never looks comfortable doing this kind of thing, comes across looking like one of those old Blue Peter presenters and leaves you with the strong belief he won't be anywhere near the club when all of his answers given today in the Q & A turn out to be make believe. It's because Wael can't do it himself as he has been in self isolation for the last couple of years!
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Mar 7, 2020 9:50:19 GMT
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t imho.
All this incessant willy waving and ‘who can be the biggest moaner’ competition has achieved diddly squat.
They ain’t going nowhere, and alternatives are just pie in the (Swiss) sky. We have with fans three options: live with it, do something about it and get organised, or stop going. And we all know option 2 is never going to happen because literally no one can be arsed.
So it’s option 1 for me. I have enough problems without trying to achieve a coronary about a lifelong mediocre football team, albeit our mediocre football team.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Mar 7, 2020 10:03:24 GMT
Used to be a story in the Roy of the Rovers comic called ,'Durrell's Palace'.They had a ground nearly as bad as the Mem but a star player called Egbert Blabwort.Think I can identify with them ;Visitors facilities et all. They battled against the odds and survived which is the main achievement.Ask Bury.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 10:15:24 GMT
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t imho. All this incessant willy waving and ‘who can be the biggest moaner’ competition has achieved diddly squat. They ain’t going nowhere, and alternatives are just pie in the (Swiss) sky. We have with fans three options: live with it, do something about it and get organised, or stop going. And we all know option 2 is never going to happen because literally no one can be arsed. So it’s option 1 for me. I have enough problems without trying to achieve a coronary about a lifelong mediocre football team, albeit our mediocre football team. Option 1 here too and very happy with that option, except for Tuesday. 😁
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 7, 2020 10:43:06 GMT
By all means find a post where i have hammered ogogo if you can? Both upson and ogogo performed well under coughlan as did leahy after a dodgy start. None of us have seen enough of the new signings to judge them yet although its pretty shocking that barrett looked overweight and unfit when he made his debut. The fans "treatment of coughlan" you mean? I enjoyed the four good seasons under DC and The really positive attacking football we played. With coughlan i hated the football but clearly stated i thought we should have stuck with maher/mansell when coughlan left and predicted garner would be a disaster. I never had and never will have any time for negative football so people like pulis,allardyce,mourinho and coughlan are other peoples managers not mine. I was referring to the majority who all seem to think that our current midfield is the poorest in the league. Barrett is a case in point about Widdrington- he was overweight when Widdrington signed him for Coventry and he is still overweight now. That speaks to his professionalism and yet we offered him a full time contract! I hold my hands up about GC, I was one of those who criticised the quality of the football. It’s like the board signed Garner as a poke in the eye to the likes of me who wanted to see more progressive football. I’ve learnt a very painful lesson there- winning is it’s own reward. And to put the tin hat on it Garner is playing worse football than GC and now claims it will take him another window at least- full of cock and bull that lad. Still I suppose he can afford to be because he knows he has got Wael and Starnes by the balls because if they haven’t sacked him by now they never will. He’s got carte Blanche to take us down next season. It certainly seems that BG is here to stay and that stevek192 was on the money with his comment about a club with its soul ripped out. I don’t know of anyone, amongst my small group, that feels anything but a strong disassociation with the club, one said it’s as if the owners are trying to push us away. At first I thought it was just a glib and throwaway comment but, if you think about it, it could make sense IF the owners were looking to have a get out clause. I have not heard anyone say they feel any confidence now. The most rabid of Rovers fans I know is not renewing his ST for the first season since we started work and had our own money. How can anyone now justify encouraging any youngsters, to support Bristol Rovers ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 11:34:22 GMT
I was referring to the majority who all seem to think that our current midfield is the poorest in the league. Barrett is a case in point about Widdrington- he was overweight when Widdrington signed him for Coventry and he is still overweight now. That speaks to his professionalism and yet we offered him a full time contract! I hold my hands up about GC, I was one of those who criticised the quality of the football. It’s like the board signed Garner as a poke in the eye to the likes of me who wanted to see more progressive football. I’ve learnt a very painful lesson there- winning is it’s own reward. And to put the tin hat on it Garner is playing worse football than GC and now claims it will take him another window at least- full of cock and bull that lad. Still I suppose he can afford to be because he knows he has got Wael and Starnes by the balls because if they haven’t sacked him by now they never will. He’s got carte Blanche to take us down next season. It certainly seems that BG is here to stay and that stevek192 was on the money with his comment about a club with its soul ripped out. I don’t know of anyone, amongst my small group, that feels anything but a strong disassociation with the club, one said it’s as if the owners are trying to push us away. At first I thought it was just a glib and throwaway comment but, if you think about it, it could make sense IF the owners were looking to have a get out clause. I have not heard anyone say they feel any confidence now. The most rabid of Rovers fans I know is not renewing his ST for the first season since we started work and had our own money. How can anyone now justify encouraging and youngsters, to support Bristol Rovers ? In some ways I agree with the sentiment a few posts above. What.’s the point of complaining on the Internet? Nothing is going to change. The ONLY thing the owner cares about is crowd figures- we have seen that that can affect the choice of manager, so if you want change you have to withdraw your cash at the ticket office. It’s sad that withdrawing funding and putting the club in a worse position is the only way to effect some self reflection but hey, if we all poured through the turnstiles and gave Dwane Sports bumper gates do you think they are best placed to spend the money? They would probably just show how disconnected from the supporters they really are by giving Garner a contract extension and a pay rise. This club is dead. Literally dead. It’s a poor Jordanian’s play thing. A man who said he would only be here as long as he was wanted. He’s got the club in a headlock and he isn’t letting go and all the while he doesn’t we continue to scrape the bottom of the barrel whilst City continue to hammer nails in our coffin. Disassociation is the right word. We are customers now, not fans and as such entitled to withdraw our support of the product on offer.
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Post by droitwichgas on Mar 7, 2020 11:45:45 GMT
If Championship side Reading can't get him fit how the hell do we hope to with our shocking training facilities? Although not sure signing mostly ex Coventry players is a sign of a good scout. It was confirmed this week Blackman 's move was organised via Wael's Chelsea contacts. It's a joke really when we sign 7 players in January and the only decent one was signed by the owner. I can never understand how Wriddington got his son on the payroll. So you already know daly and harries are no good? also the other 4 havnt played enough to judge them surely? Regarding coventry players,if they perform like clarke-harris,ogogo and davies i hope we sign more from there. Have you seen much of widdrington? No good for this season, I don't really buy into this nonsense that BG's going to turn raw youngsters in £m players, if he's that good a coach then why can't he get the likes of OC & Upson playing to at least there own L1 level? Problem with just signing Coventry players is that it's only a limited source. Widdrington has just signed for the mighty Hemel Hempstead that really says it all, he'll be released in the summer and finish up getting a contract below National League level. Anyway were you praising TW's signings when GC was in charge or continually slagging then off like you did the manager?
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Post by laughinggas on Mar 7, 2020 11:51:27 GMT
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t imho. All this incessant willy waving and ‘who can be the biggest moaner’ competition has achieved diddly squat. They ain’t going nowhere, and alternatives are just pie in the (Swiss) sky. We have with fans three options: live with it, do something about it and get organised, or stop going. And we all know option 2 is never going to happen because literally no one can be arsed. So it’s option 1 for me. I have enough problems without trying to achieve a coronary about a lifelong mediocre football team, albeit our mediocre football team. Ah the power of Internet etc. The problem is it brings others down and gets in this vicious circle. Who's the next target. Hope you all have loo rolls at home. Any thrown at football could cause a riot!
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Post by toteend3 on Mar 7, 2020 12:09:27 GMT
I was referring to the majority who all seem to think that our current midfield is the poorest in the league. Barrett is a case in point about Widdrington- he was overweight when Widdrington signed him for Coventry and he is still overweight now. That speaks to his professionalism and yet we offered him a full time contract! I hold my hands up about GC, I was one of those who criticised the quality of the football. It’s like the board signed Garner as a poke in the eye to the likes of me who wanted to see more progressive football. I’ve learnt a very painful lesson there- winning is it’s own reward. And to put the tin hat on it Garner is playing worse football than GC and now claims it will take him another window at least- full of cock and bull that lad. Still I suppose he can afford to be because he knows he has got Wael and Starnes by the balls because if they haven’t sacked him by now they never will. He’s got carte Blanche to take us down next season. It certainly seems that BG is here to stay and that stevek192 was on the money with his comment about a club with its soul ripped out. I don’t know of anyone, amongst my small group, that feels anything but a strong disassociation with the club, one said it’s as if the owners are trying to push us away. At first I thought it was just a glib and throwaway comment but, if you think about it, it could make sense IF the owners were looking to have a get out clause. I have not heard anyone say they feel any confidence now. The most rabid of Rovers fans I know is not renewing his ST for the first season since we started work and had our own money. How can anyone now justify encouraging and youngsters, to support Bristol Rovers ? As you may recall, the first seed of doubt was very early on when I attended the premier showing of the Wael documentary which in answer to one of the questions was 'football football football' I spoke to him after and thanked him for his involvement in the club and reminded him a lot of people were relying on him delivering in particular the new stadium. This was vital due to the fact a lot of our older supporters never thought they would live to see that day. Walked away something made me look back and the fixed smile had been replaced with 'look of dread' The older supporters unfortunately were right and quite a few are no longer with us! Several years later, after numerous broken promises, lots of of 'spinning! and plenty of fake news, I have lost all hope and stopped promoting all things Bristol Rovers to friends and family. One of the main reasons we still continue to turn on Saturdays if for social reasons, so until there's a change, I will not be purchasing a season ticket, but will still turn up to the pub and decide at 2.45 either to go to the game or stay in the pub and drink for free! UTFG/STB
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 7, 2020 13:47:30 GMT
It certainly seems that BG is here to stay and that stevek192 was on the money with his comment about a club with its soul ripped out. I don’t know of anyone, amongst my small group, that feels anything but a strong disassociation with the club, one said it’s as if the owners are trying to push us away. At first I thought it was just a glib and throwaway comment but, if you think about it, it could make sense IF the owners were looking to have a get out clause. I have not heard anyone say they feel any confidence now. The most rabid of Rovers fans I know is not renewing his ST for the first season since we started work and had our own money. How can anyone now justify encouraging and youngsters, to support Bristol Rovers ? In some ways I agree with the sentiment a few posts above. What.’s the point of complaining on the Internet? Nothing is going to change. The ONLY thing the owner cares about is crowd figures- we have seen that that can affect the choice of manager, so if you want change you have to withdraw your cash at the ticket office. It’s sad that withdrawing funding and putting the club in a worse position is the only way to effect some self reflection but hey, if we all poured through the turnstiles and gave Dwane Sports bumper gates do you think they are best placed to spend the money? They would probably just show how disconnected from the supporters they really are by giving Garner a contract extension and a pay rise. This club is dead. Literally dead. It’s a poor Jordanian’s play thing. A man who said he would only be here as long as he was wanted. He’s got the club in a headlock and he isn’t letting go and all the while he doesn’t we continue to scrape the bottom of the barrel whilst City continue to hammer nails in our coffin. Disassociation is the right word. We are customers now, not fans and as such entitled to withdraw our support of the product on offer. Really good post, as I read it anyway. I have said it enough times in that I now mainly go as I otherwise would not get to see certain people if I don’t. This season has, first time ever, made me want to stay in the pub while the game goes on. If not for my closest friend, I’d have done this but he always makes me feel guilty and , using his words, a 5hiT supporter. Sure, we have had very hard times before but we did always have hope & I feel even that has been eroded by the horror show that is DWANE. stevek192 got a lot of stick for his voicing about a club with it soul ripped out but his words have certainly come home to roost. I am hearing various rumours, about a possible sale but, until I can give any of them some back up, I will keep it to myself. That is MY only hope now, that Wael and DWANE sell and to someone, or a group, who truly know football and the importance of investment & an ongoing dialogue with the fans. I allowed myself to dream and was ecstatic after our second promotion, it was a once in a lifetime and golden opportunity, to invest in tne manager and team & push forward. It looked like we had the right people in place, to use this magnificent momentum but we let it slip, along with UWE, the FM and training facilities. I cannot see how anyone could, with any true backup, that we are not a club in crisis. Of course it hurts and because you don’t just forget a lifetime of support and camaraderie. It may not be a priority but it’s not something I cannot ignore. I try to think of Wael as a man who just had visions of grandeur, who thought his contacts could sort but, the longer he is the figurehead of the club, the more easy it is to see him as the architect of our current state, both on and off of the field.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 13:51:29 GMT
So you already know daly and harries are no good? also the other 4 havnt played enough to judge them surely? Regarding coventry players,if they perform like clarke-harris,ogogo and davies i hope we sign more from there. Have you seen much of widdrington? No good for this season, I don't really buy into this nonsense that BG's going to turn raw youngsters in £m players, if he's that good a coach then why can't he get the likes of OC & Upson playing to at least there own L1 level? Problem with just signing Coventry players is that it's only a limited source. Widdrington has just signed for the mighty Hemel Hempstead that really says it all, he'll be released in the summer and finish up getting a contract below National League level. Anyway were you praising TW's signings when GC was in charge or continually slagging then off like you did the manager? Not seen widdrington play then? thats what i thought. Give the new young players a chance maybe ? Disliked coughlan but argued for him on the silly sacking thread and posted as much. Also clearly posted that garner would be a disaster and we should stick with maher/mansell until the end of the season when coughlan walked out. Thats right he walked out remember?
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Post by swissgas on Mar 7, 2020 20:57:11 GMT
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t imho. All this incessant willy waving and ‘who can be the biggest moaner’ competition has achieved diddly squat. They ain’t going nowhere, and alternatives are just pie in the (Swiss) sky. We have with fans three options: live with it, do something about it and get organised, or stop going. And we all know option 2 is never going to happen because literally no one can be arsed. So it’s option 1 for me. I have enough problems without trying to achieve a coronary about a lifelong mediocre football team, albeit our mediocre football team. I've managed to pluck a few pies out of a few skies Father so we should never say never. And these days trying to find a route out of the mediocrity is a lot more enjoyable than watching on iFollow !
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 8, 2020 12:55:24 GMT
No good for this season, I don't really buy into this nonsense that BG's going to turn raw youngsters in £m players, if he's that good a coach then why can't he get the likes of OC & Upson playing to at least there own L1 level? Problem with just signing Coventry players is that it's only a limited source. Widdrington has just signed for the mighty Hemel Hempstead that really says it all, he'll be released in the summer and finish up getting a contract below National League level. Anyway were you praising TW's signings when GC was in charge or continually slagging then off like you did the manager? Not seen widdrington play then? thats what i thought. Give the new young players a chance maybe ? Disliked coughlan but argued for him on the silly sacking thread and posted as much. Also clearly posted that garner would be a disaster and we should stick with maher/mansell until the end of the season when coughlan walked out. Thats right he walked out remember? Theo Widdrington has been loaned out, for a month.
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Post by eppinggas on Mar 8, 2020 21:16:09 GMT
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t imho. All this incessant willy waving and ‘who can be the biggest moaner’ competition has achieved diddly squat. They ain’t going nowhere, and alternatives are just pie in the (Swiss) sky. We have with fans three options: live with it, do something about it and get organised, or stop going. And we all know option 2 is never going to happen because literally no one can be arsed. So it’s option 1 for me. I have enough problems without trying to achieve a coronary about a lifelong mediocre football team, albeit our mediocre football team. Sadly it's option 3 for me Father. Poses an interesting question. If Rovers fans did organise some kind of boycott... would their inherent apathy result in any actual difference to the attendance? Would they be too apathetic to not turn up? Discuss.
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