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Post by gasgomarchingin on Jul 23, 2021 8:22:30 GMT
Paul Buckle comes to mind...
"The situation we’re coming into, we know it’s going to be challenging," he said. "The priority is to stay in League Two and build from there".
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 23, 2021 8:34:30 GMT
Not sure if Tisdale had much of a say in who he could get in, remember Wriddingtons' mantra "we have the people here" so there's a big clue as to what went on in the window, and his [Tisdale] parting shot was virtually aimed at that person... B***** well IMO had given up almost before he had started ,never looked that interested,seemingly had decided we go down any way and will build "my team"
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 23, 2021 8:49:10 GMT
B***** well IMO had given up almost before he had started ,never looked that interested,seemingly had decided we go down any way and will build "my team" I think there's a lot in that, and that it points to a bit of a hole in Joeybag's personality he fluffs his feathers and presents this 'my way or the highway' option due to his insecurity about his ability to create nuanced working relationships with others - and hence he's only comfortable working with 'his team', where his own nerves are soothed by the false sense of security brought by the fact that he's picked them it's probably the reason for his violent past (or maybe not past) too puffing himself up is his defence and coping mechanism. Which does no good for anyone else
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Post by dido on Jul 23, 2021 9:19:32 GMT
Other forms of equine faeces are available, though perhaps not so unadulterated.
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Post by mangogas15 on Jul 23, 2021 9:31:20 GMT
Not sure if Tisdale had much of a say in who he could get in, remember Wriddingtons' mantra "we have the people here" so there's a big clue as to what went on in the window, and his [Tisdale] parting shot was virtually aimed at that person... B***** well IMO had given up almost before he had started ,never looked that interested,seemingly had decided we go down any way and will build "my team" A mess from November onwards
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 23, 2021 9:34:43 GMT
Not sure if Tisdale had much of a say in who he could get in, remember Wriddingtons' mantra "we have the people here" so there's a big clue as to what went on in the window, and his [Tisdale] parting shot was virtually aimed at that person... B***** well IMO had given up almost before he had started ,never looked that interested,seemingly had decided we go down any way and will build "my team" About JB I think that’s right. I’m not sure that coming in working with other managers players plays to his strong points. He certainly used it as an excuse for relegation last season. I’m surprised because most managers come in and have to work with a large proportion of players they inherit. Doing it JBs way must be costly, getting rid of a squad and recruiting a new one. Recruiting a new team could be very exciting and if his team plays the way he talks then we’re in for a good season. But that doesn’t always happen. He will need to start well, they’ll be no excuses and it will be painful I suspect if we hit a bad patch at any stage. But at the moment I’m confident that we’ll challenge and if we can get a striker in who starts well and is scoring goals we could be very, very good. But as ever, time will tell. UTG!
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Post by bloogas on Jul 23, 2021 10:26:05 GMT
B***** well IMO had given up almost before he had started ,never looked that interested,seemingly had decided we go down any way and will build "my team" I think there's a lot in that, and that it points to a bit of a hole in Joeybag's personality he fluffs his feathers and presents this 'my way or the highway' option due to his insecurity about his ability to create nuanced working relationships with others - and hence he's only comfortable working with 'his team', where his own nerves are soothed by the false sense of security brought by the fact that he's picked them it's probably the reason for his violent past (or maybe not past) too puffing himself up is his defence and coping mechanism. Which does no good for anyone else I passed the Quarters on the first days of JB's management. It was clearly visible even from the road that he was getting stuck in and very animated. A coach near the gate spoke to me, commenting that he was a breath of fresh air and had lifted the place already. OK, it didn't last, but I have to wonder who exactly was at fault. It will be very interesting, for example, how Ehmer plays in the future and any more comments he might make about his time with the Gas.
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Post by gasgomarchingin on Jul 23, 2021 10:55:23 GMT
Joey's gonna look pretty stupid if Swindon and Garner finish above us (don't think they will though).
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Post by laughinggas on Jul 23, 2021 11:17:34 GMT
Joey's gonna look pretty stupid if Swindon and Garner finish above us (don't think they will though). And if any of those he let go move on for a fee in next 12 months. Just imagine if Daly goes on a spree and is bought by Posh!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 11:29:27 GMT
Reading this thread still makes me wonder why we sacked Ben.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 23, 2021 12:47:02 GMT
I think there's a lot in that, and that it points to a bit of a hole in Joeybag's personality he fluffs his feathers and presents this 'my way or the highway' option due to his insecurity about his ability to create nuanced working relationships with others - and hence he's only comfortable working with 'his team', where his own nerves are soothed by the false sense of security brought by the fact that he's picked them it's probably the reason for his violent past (or maybe not past) too puffing himself up is his defence and coping mechanism. Which does no good for anyone else I passed the Quarters on the first days of JB's management. It was clearly visible even from the road that he was getting stuck in and very animated. A coach near the gate spoke to me, commenting that he was a breath of fresh air and had lifted the place already. OK, it didn't last, but I have to wonder who exactly was at fault. It will be very interesting, for example, how Ehmer plays in the future and any more comments he might make about his time with the Gas. Interesting point. I wonder if it was the same once he had a few losses under his belt
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Post by mangogas15 on Jul 23, 2021 12:50:13 GMT
Garner will always divide opinion as will B*****.
If we had given Garner another window I think it would have been fair, it's almost as if they expected to be in the top 1 by October
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 23, 2021 12:58:24 GMT
Garner will always divide opinion as will B*****. If we had given Garner another window I think it would have been fair, it's almost as if they expected to be in the top 1 by October One of those where we will never know. It was poor from Christmas but the beginning of last season wasn’t that bad compared with what was to come. It’s almost as if they were looking for an excuse to get rid of Garner and that home display v Fleetwood when the keeper had a poor game did for him. Some pretty poor decision making all round from December 19 onwards I’d say. But I guess looking at how football is now, the word “window” is almost one of the most important words there is. Managers are always demanding they need a “window” or another “window” and some of our fans are demanding a “window” also, only they want it in the gym! 😉 UTG!
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Post by baselswh on Jul 23, 2021 13:05:30 GMT
Garner will always divide opinion as will B*****. If we had given Garner another window I think it would have been fair, it's almost as if they expected to be in the top 1 by October One of those where we will never know. It was poor from Christmas but the beginning of last season wasn’t that bad compared with what was to come. It’s almost as if they were looking for an excuse to get rid of Garner and that home display v Fleetwood when the keeper had a poor game did for him. Some pretty poor decision making all round from December 19 onwards I’d say. But I guess looking at how football is now, the word “window” is almost one of the most important words there is. Managers are always demanding they need a “window” or another “window” and some of our fans are demanding a “window” also, only they want it in the gym! 😉 UTG! Afraid I think any manager that considered JVS EFL standard,is asking for the sack.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jul 23, 2021 13:28:30 GMT
Not sure if Tisdale had much of a say in who he could get in, remember Wriddingtons' mantra "we have the people here" so there's a big clue as to what went on in the window, and his [Tisdale] parting shot was virtually aimed at that person... B***** well IMO had given up almost before he had started ,never looked that interested,seemingly had decided we go down any way and will build "my team" A mess from November onwards which year? The key moment was a December, GC getting us to fourth, then saying he has taken it as far as he can right on verge of a window, the board merely shrugging “we planned to take it in a different direction anyway”. In came Garner, Daley, Barrel. Picking the thread up “different direction” the DNA was to fill squad with young players, play pretty football, sell them on at profit to keep the business model financially viable without owner largess? That’s a long term plan. The manager was a rookie but reputation of a good coach. There’s sympathy around for Garner, but following 4th place was a tough act he didn’t managed well, abysmal run until the suspension. After the window it was better, but still when we’re were beaten, often late on in games after matching some of the better opposition for 70 minutes, the score lines really were bad, added to the abysmal record before suspension, there’s only so much sympathy to be had. I’m not defending Tisdale completely, his team sheets and subs right from the start were bizarre. Incomprehensible. But I’m really not convinced he had complete say on transfers, meaning the botched window was all his fault. Tisdale had to go, after the window he was the most negative thing in the building about us staying up. I don’t think it’s been convincing on or off field since Weal came in to be honest. It had not been great before he came, going out the league, going to war with Sainsburys and losing. one thing does tie all this period of struggle together, from going out the league to finishing bottom of league 1 - our abysmal use of the loan system. if I was to say if we had someone in on loan last season, like City had Abraham in, banging the goals in, you could counter but they won’t be our player, they would leave for nothing and not come back. True. Also true though they would have been banging the goals in.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 23, 2021 13:38:41 GMT
Yes, superbus, you’re correct about our poor use of loans. It’s been poor over a long period of time. UTG!
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Post by mangogas15 on Jul 23, 2021 13:39:01 GMT
A mess from November onwards which year? The key moment was a December, GC getting us to fourth, then saying he has taken it as far as he can right on verge of a window, the board merely shrugging “we planned to take it in a different direction anyway”. In came Garner, Daley, Barrel. Picking the thread up “different direction” the DNA was to fill squad with young players, play pretty football, sell them on at profit to keep the business model financially viable without owner largess? That’s a long term plan. The manager was a rookie but reputation of a good coach. There’s sympathy around for Garner, but following 4th place was a tough act he didn’t managed well, abysmal run until the suspension. After the window it was better, but still when we’re were beaten, often late on in games after matching some of the better opposition for 70 minutes, the score lines really were bad, added to the abysmal record before suspension, there’s only so much sympathy to be had. I’m not defending Tisdale completely, his team sheets and subs right from the start were bizarre. Incomprehensible. But I’m really not convinced he had complete say on transfers, meaning the botched window was all his fault. Tisdale had to go, after the window he was the most negative thing in the building about us staying up. I don’t think it’s been convincing on or off field since Weal came in to be honest. It had not been great before he came, going out the league, going to war with Sainsburys and losing. one thing does tie all this period of struggle together, from going out the league to finishing bottom of league 1 - our abysmal use of the loan system. if I was to say if we had someone in on loan last season, like City had Abraham in, banging the goals in, you could counter but they won’t be our player, they would leave for nothing and not come back. True. Also true though they would have been banging the goals in. City did better when Abraham left because they just tried to pass to him all the time and ignored players in better positions. Garner had recently won away at Lincoln and Shrewsbury yet was sacked. Looking back, I know I was happy at the time, but after what happened next it was too soon for me.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jul 23, 2021 13:59:46 GMT
which year? The key moment was a December, GC getting us to fourth, then saying he has taken it as far as he can right on verge of a window, the board merely shrugging “we planned to take it in a different direction anyway”. In came Garner, Daley, Barrel. Picking the thread up “different direction” the DNA was to fill squad with young players, play pretty football, sell them on at profit to keep the business model financially viable without owner largess? That’s a long term plan. The manager was a rookie but reputation of a good coach. There’s sympathy around for Garner, but following 4th place was a tough act he didn’t managed well, abysmal run until the suspension. After the window it was better, but still when we’re were beaten, often late on in games after matching some of the better opposition for 70 minutes, the score lines really were bad, added to the abysmal record before suspension, there’s only so much sympathy to be had. I’m not defending Tisdale completely, his team sheets and subs right from the start were bizarre. Incomprehensible. But I’m really not convinced he had complete say on transfers, meaning the botched window was all his fault. Tisdale had to go, after the window he was the most negative thing in the building about us staying up. I don’t think it’s been convincing on or off field since Weal came in to be honest. It had not been great before he came, going out the league, going to war with Sainsburys and losing. one thing does tie all this period of struggle together, from going out the league to finishing bottom of league 1 - our abysmal use of the loan system. if I was to say if we had someone in on loan last season, like City had Abraham in, banging the goals in, you could counter but they won’t be our player, they would leave for nothing and not come back. True. Also true though they would have been banging the goals in. City did better when Abraham left because they just tried to pass to him all the time and ignored players in better positions. Garner had recently won away at Lincoln and Shrewsbury yet was sacked. Looking back, I know I was happy at the time, but after what happened next it was too soon for me. so busy on road to Damascus. Smart thing to park up the burger stand. I don’t want to come over all historically accurate - but mushroom specials.
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